[isleaiw1]

I see some merit in it. Voiding the season will likely get legal action from those who are in a position to be promoted. Saying its over and all things sorted on Points Per Game will likely mean those who are relegated will take legal action on the basis that they could have avoided it...

Completing, giving the positives and not the negatives will mean no legal action probably and a way to kick off a new season without legal action getting in the way (will they be able to start the new season till legal action complete?)

Can rebalance the numbers over next x years when the rules are clearly laid out at start of season and everyone knows what they are playing towards...

[clarevoyant.]

 isleaiw1, on 01 April 2020 - 08:38 AM, said:

I see some merit in it. Voiding the season will likely get legal action from those who are in a position to be promoted. Saying its over and all things sorted on Points Per Game will likely mean those who are relegated will take legal action on the basis that they could have avoided it...

Completing, giving the positives and not the negatives will mean no legal action probably and a way to kick off a new season without legal action getting in the way (will they be able to start the new season till legal action complete?)

Can rebalance the numbers over next x years when the rules are clearly laid out at start of season and everyone knows what they are playing towards...

Yes I agree it does have some merit and probably the best way forward. Ironic that it comes from a town reknowned for having people with leadership qualities ��

This post has been edited by clarevoyant.: 01 April 2020 - 10:12 AM

[boot]

The Premier League will decide what is in their best interest and leave everybody else to fall in line however they can. The Maidenhead plan will cost them millions - 1/23 share instead of 1/20. On top of that they will be facing a greater chance of relegation in subsequent seasons until the numbers even up - 3/20 to 4/23 in first season. More games they don't want or need. Self interest rules I think.

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[dtp]

 boot, on 01 April 2020 - 11:59 AM, said:

The Premier League will decide what is in their best interest and leave everybody else to fall in line however they can. The Maidenhead plan will cost them millions - 1/23 share instead of 1/20. On top of that they will be facing a greater chance of relegation in subsequent seasons until the numbers even up - 3/20 to 4/23 in first season. More games they don't want or need. Self interest rules I think.

You are not wrong. The pecking order will be determined by what happens at the top with the premiership making it's mind up first, followed by the EFL, then the NL will be able to sort itself out.

So, if the premiership looks after the clubs it already is comprised of, I think if the champions really has to be decided upon it is a fairly easy decision to award it to Liverpool. European places might cause a bit more of an argument. But, if they decide to relegate no one everybody currently in the premiership will be happy. However, if they decide to invite other clubs into the fold from the EFL it could create all sorts of arguments. Meanwhile, if no clubs are relegated there could be a financial saving in terms of parachute payments.

Next comes the EFL. If they lose no clubs to the premiership they remain one club down on normal membership because of Bury's demise. To make up their full quota of clubs they could decide to invite one club from the NL to join them and this would be most likely Barrow because they currently sit in poll position and Harrogate, who are second, do not have a playing surface which complies to EFL regulations. They then have decisions to make regarding promotions and relegations or whether or not there are going to be any. I would suggest the only decision which might not be opposed is not to relegate Stevenage which, in turn, would bring about a decision on parachute payments as to whether they should continue to clubs relegated in the last two seasons or just the last season which would give the EFL a financial saving. However, if the premiership actually invite a further number of clubs into their fold this would open up a host of different issues.

Last in line, is the NL. In reality they will need to see what happens in the premiership and then the EFL. If they lose one or more clubs to the EFL I don't think they will have much choice over this because no club is going to say "no" if invited by the EFL to join them. Similarly, I don't think the NL will have much choice over the selection criteria the EFL might use to select the clubs it invites in and that might not necessarily be purely on NL league position. So, depending on how many clubs the NL is left with it will then be in a position to decide how it will make up the appropriate numbers in each of it's leagues.

[Tha Knows...]

 isleaiw1, on 01 April 2020 - 08:38 AM, said:

I see some merit in it. Voiding the season will likely get legal action from those who are in a position to be promoted. Saying its over and all things sorted on Points Per Game will likely mean those who are relegated will take legal action on the basis that they could have avoided it...

Completing, giving the positives and not the negatives will mean no legal action probably and a way to kick off a new season without legal action getting in the way (will they be able to start the new season till legal action complete?)

Can rebalance the numbers over next x years when the rules are clearly laid out at start of season and everyone knows what they are playing towards...

Promotion and relegation decided on prediction would be more vulnerable to legal challenge than voiding the season I would have thought, but I'm no lawyer.

[Tha Knows...]

Wimbledon, first 2 weeks in July, cancelled.

[JonB]

 Spire-Power, on 01 April 2020 - 03:22 PM, said:

Wimbledon, first 2 weeks in July, cancelled.

I got tickets in the public ballot as well...had tickets for court one on the middle Saturday. Looks like we can have the same ones for next year though so not all bad.

[Tha Knows...]

Another major sporting event cancelled, this one taking place through to mid July. But the Euro cups, PL, EFL and higher NL are still not cancelled yet.

[azul]

 clarevoyant., on 01 April 2020 - 09:44 AM, said:

Yes I agree it does have some merit and probably the best way forward. Ironic that it comes from a town reknowned for having people with leadership qualities ��

Do really think so? And I used to take you seriously

Whatever our personal opinions about the idea (mine is negative), it is a total non starter In practical terms. Six extra games in a league that already bleats about the number of games because it interferes with mid season marketing trips to Asia. Add the fact that next season is already looking stuffed with Euro2021 (plus playoffs) and WC2022 qualifiers, possibly a late start and early finish. There is not a hope in hell the PFL would accept that.

The PFL will decide how things conclude, probably taking its lead from UEFA. The EFL and NL will follow suit.

[clarevoyant.]

 azul, on 01 April 2020 - 07:43 PM, said:

Do really think so? And I used to take you seriously

No proposal will be ideal but this one does limit the prospect of the majority of time consuming/costly litigation cases and therefore more money disappearing out of the game ie into the legal profession. However on the downside it'll not p..s leeds off.


Your not going through the change are you? 🤔

[azul]

 clarevoyant., on 01 April 2020 - 09:23 PM, said:

No proposal will be ideal but this one does limit the prospect of the majority of time consuming/costly litigation cases and therefore more money disappearing out of the game ie into the legal profession. However on the downside it'll not p..s leeds off.


Your not going through the change are you? 🤔

Dream on, it ain’t gonna happen

UEFA/PFL/FA/EFL/NL vs Barrow in the High Court should be an interesting court case

[clarevoyant.]

 azul, on 01 April 2020 - 10:07 PM, said:

Dream on, it ain’t gonna happen

UEFA/PFL/FA/EFL/NL vs Barrow in the High Court should be an interesting court case

Does your comprehension diminish the nearer the clock gets to midnight?

[azul]

 clarevoyant., on 01 April 2020 - 10:17 PM, said:

Does your comprehension diminish the nearer the clock gets to midnight?

Must do, because I’m backing Barrow to win in court at the moment

[clarevoyant.]

 azul, on 01 April 2020 - 10:21 PM, said:

Must do, because I’m backing Barrow to win in court at the moment

Why would Barrow be in court?

[azul]

Looks like the season isn't going to be voided

https://www.theguard...rematurely-uefa

I can't see the EFL or NL going against any decision made

[mr. smith]

 azul, on 03 April 2020 - 09:07 AM, said:

Looks like the season isn't going to be voided

https://www.theguard...rematurely-uefa

I can't see the EFL or NL going against any decision made

when will they realise its only football, its not that important in the grand scheme of things.
while people are dying in their thousand across Europe its obscene to think about football restarting esp when its all about protecting their tv nestegg.

[Lincs Spireite]

 mr. smith, on 03 April 2020 - 11:40 AM, said:

when will they realise its only football, its not that important in the grand scheme of things.
while people are dying in their thousand across Europe its obscene to think about football restarting esp when its all about protecting their tv nestegg.

Money is the only important thing in football these days

[mr. smith]

 Bowzer spirey, on 03 April 2020 - 11:57 AM, said:

Money is the only important thing in football these days

sadly so.
perhaps a few mths without sky/bt pumping it out 24/7 people will realise theres more important things.
& perhaps a few mths without income may reign in even the biggest clubs when it comes to wages ticket prices etc.

[hardgums]

The arrogance of the footballing elite is as staggering as it is depressing. Perhaps we should think about a #notapennymore approach to BT Sport and Sky subscriptions next season.

[hardgums]

 hardgums, on 03 April 2020 - 01:39 PM, said:

The arrogance of the footballing elite is as staggering as it is depressing. Perhaps we should think about a #notapennymore approach to BT Sport and Sky subscriptions next season.

Blimey! I might just have to eat my words