[azul]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 28 March 2020 - 01:56 PM, said:

Has anyone done such calculations?

If not, I'm sure it'd be the perfect filler for a football free afternoon...

Enough to know we’re safe and the current bottom four go down and Barrow go up.

I’m sure you remember the good old days when goal average was used to split teams

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[dtp]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 28 March 2020 - 12:31 PM, said:

Let's say it once again: by the time any resumption will be possible every club will have a different squad, many will have different managers and some will've gone bust.

So to carry on would be totally unfair, totally unrepresentative of the last seven months and the 2019/20 season in name only.

Sorry all you clubs on the brink of promotion, but it's a small price to pay compared to the far bigger picture.

In simple terms, Chris, it's common sense and you are correct.

For me, the only questions should be about how they go about making each of the top five leagues up to their full complement of teams if some club's cannot guarantee being able to complete the new season financially. And, should a club be chosen to play at a higher level than they are at now, because of the financial plight of others, what restrictions should be put in place in respect of stadium facilities.

[Tha Knows...]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 28 March 2020 - 01:56 PM, said:

Has anyone done such calculations?

If not, I'm sure it'd be the perfect filler for a football free afternoon...

I think you'd have to get a calculation based on home and away records so far, as clubs will have different numbers of home and away games remaining. Then you could predict a conclusion!

[frearsghost]

clarevoyant., on 28 March 2020 - 01:34 PM, said:

You do have to feel sorry for Barrow. Their failure to gain re-election to the league (71-72) must have left a sour taste with them finishing 3rd from bottom 9 points clear of the bottom club. The country at the time was still having a "luv in" with Ronnie Radford and Herefords FA Cup exploits who just happened to be the club seeking election. So someone had to go.

The 9 points safety cushion that Barrow had was futile in comparison to the the geographical advantage that Crewe and Stockport had, over trips to far flung north Lancs.(it was then even Lancs got shut of them eventually)so the voting clubs voted for a steady jaunt to Cheshire.
So 40+ years on it looks like they are stuffed again very unfortunate but the league as to be null and void.

Remember it well Mick. The news came through when we were all on the plane to Croatia. It was a geographical decision.

[JonB]

Can’t the pools panel just predict the rest of the results and do a final table from that?!

[dtp]

Close but no prawn sarnies, on 28 March 2020 - 01:47 PM, said:

It should end now, no fair or easy way, but a final table based on points earned per game so far and goals for & against multiplied by total games ( if that keeps us up?)

Simply voiding it not on.

But, your equation does not take into account recent form compared to earlier form. We all know in the real game Easter can change everything. Barrow's recent form has had them looking over their shoulders. Harrogate's recent form has been a bit iffy as well. Meanwhile Notts County have been experiencing a surge whilst Yeovil were certain to lose against CFC on telly. Ebbsfleet's recent form has been very good but could Ugwu keep on scoring to save them from relegation bearing in mind the NL have not even made their minds up if 3 or 4 teams go down even though the EFL sorted their relegation & promotion decisions out months ago.

Then, we have European football competitions for the overspending big boys to balance their books with to consider. Never mind that there are Italian and Spanish clubs involved in these competitions. But eh, it's only a killer virus and these clubs need the money?????

There is not a fair way which will suit everybody. The ones at the tops and bottoms will argue until they are blue in the face but if we were still playing then other teams in the leagues or cups would be saying "it's not over yet" and that would include the Barrow supporters and management if they were 4th now.

[Tha Knows...]

Yep there's often teams that put a late run together, good or bad, to transform their expected finishing position. The NL shouldn't be playing calculation games. Get the season scrapped asap.

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[clarevoyant.]

frearsghost, on 28 March 2020 - 02:23 PM, said:

Remember it well Mick. The news came through when we were all on the plane to Croatia. It was a geographical decision.

I thought the Slivovitz intake had nullified all memories of that jaunt. Well apart from when CFC supporters on tour stuffed the Yugoslav waiters select V1 comprehensively.

[Valley Blues]

The question has been asked but I’ve not seen anyone, as of yet, state they would fully support the season being void and we start again, as if the last 8 months never happened, if we were in Barrow’s position.

[clarevoyant.]

Valley Blues, on 28 March 2020 - 03:15 PM, said:

The question has been asked but I’ve not seen anyone, as of yet, state they would fully support the season being void and we start again, as if the last 8 months never happened, if we were in Barrow’s position.

We've had enough unjust disappointments watching town to be, able to take another one in our stride and be the bigger person to abide by what would be a correct decision

[moondog]

Spire-Power, on 28 March 2020 - 02:16 PM, said:

That isn't voiding the season it's cancelling remaining games, in effect predicting the outcome of remaining games. It is more likely to lead to legal challenges than scrapping the whole season imo.

Maybe so but it doesn't impact on the spread of the virus, you appeared to be suggesting any solution bar voiding would

[Tha Knows...]

moondog, on 28 March 2020 - 04:05 PM, said:

Maybe so but it doesn't impact on the spread of the virus, you appeared to be suggesting any solution bar voiding would

I'm saying no more football til next season to limit the virus spread. Imo the fairest way to end the season is to void it now rather than make predictions about promotion and relegation. All treated the same, all know where they stand, some happier than others of course.

[calvin plummers socks]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 28 March 2020 - 01:56 PM, said:

Has anyone done such calculations?

If not, I'm sure it'd be the perfect filler for a football free afternoon...

That’s one of the options on the table that the clubs have been given to mull over

[clarevoyant.]

moondog, on 28 March 2020 - 04:05 PM, said:

Maybe so but it doesn't impact on the spread of the virus, you appeared to be suggesting any solution bar voiding would

I wonder how many would have predicted Carlisles keeper (Glass was it?) scoring in the last minute of the season to keep them in the league?
Foootball thrives on unpredictability.

[calvin plummers socks]

clarevoyant., on 28 March 2020 - 04:22 PM, said:

I wonder how many would have predicted Carlisles keeper (Glass was it?) scoring in the last minute of the season to keep them in the league?
Foootball thrives on unpredictability.

Probably the greatest single moment in the history of the football league?
(And I’ve no love for Carlisle)!

[Tha Knows...]

Glyn Hurst

[Tha Knows...]

calvin plummers socks, on 28 March 2020 - 04:18 PM, said:

That’s one of the options on the table that the clubs have been given to mull over

They will all vote from self interest obviously. It should be taken out of their hands by NL

[60s 70s Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 28 March 2020 - 04:58 PM, said:

Probably the greatest single moment in the history of the football league?
(And I’ve no love for Carlisle)!

If it is, must be followed closely by Doncaster at Brentford final day of L1 in 2012/13. Donnie needed a point to go up automatically, Brentford needed to win to overtake them. 94th minute, at 0-0, Brentford get a penalty. It’s missed and not many seconds later Donnie go up the other end and score, securing not only promotion but the championship.

[Happ Hazzard]

Just have a big royal rumble style match with the hardest player of each team. The order of entry is based on the position in the table the team was in before football was suspended. IMO this would be a fair and just way of deciding the season.

[calvin plummers socks]

Happ Hazzard, on 28 March 2020 - 06:11 PM, said:

Just have a big royal rumble style match with the hardest player of each team. The order of entry is based on the position in the table the team was in before football was suspended. IMO this would be a fair and just way of deciding the season.

Let’s resign Steve Fletcher !