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We've Never Had It So Bad! Please Answer My Question. Just about in tears as I post this!!

#41 User is offline   Fit as a Nelson 

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 12:40 PM

I’ve not stopped going but I’m so frustrated with myself for buying a season ticket again this season. I won’t be making the same mistake next season enough is enough. I don’t care if we win every game between now and the end of the season, get promoted and start next season back in the football league, I won’t be there under the current ownership. They’d probably double the price of season tickets if we ever got back into the football league anyway.

To answer your question, I would be there with new owners that actually care about the club, even if we was playing regional football.

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 12:40 PM

The last part of your post says it all , vital and RESPECTED part of the community, It gets harder every home game to attend , the love for our club I’ve supported since 1963 has nearly gone.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 12:46 PM

[quote name='philtooleycfss' timestamp='1570532028' post='1489909']
Hello again, it’s been some time since I’ve been on here! I think we were readying ourselves for a play-off game to potentially move into level two for the first time since 1951.

The reason I’m posting again is simple, the club I love and have volunteered at for 42 years is dying. That’s not a position that I ever envisaged when we were being entertained by Paul Cook’s superb side, and whilst at that time I could see that we were more likely to have bad times rather than great times, a second straight relegation battle in the National League did not feature in any of my nightmare scenarios back then.

Our club (that’s OUR CLUB) has been run into the ground and trust in the governance and management capabilities is at an all-time low and continues to fall week by week. Crowds have plummeted after four years of declining results and many decisions, on and off the field, have baffled the majority.

That said, all I want to do at this stage is ask a question, aimed at fans that have been loyal regulars but now don’t come as often or even not at all.

The question is, if the club were to be wholly taken over by a consortium of genuine local supporters, would you consider returning on a more regular basis even if the immediate prospect of a significant upturn in results was not forthcoming?

If your answer is ‘yes’ the response is easy, but please add any comments that could help potential bidders formulate their plans.

If your answer is ‘no’ please say what would need to be implemented to encourage you to return.

I’m asking the question in good faith to potentially help out real and genuine interest in the club’s future wellbeing to enable pragmatic decisions and predictions to be made by a number of people who genuinely have an interest in getting the club back on track and returning to being a vital and respected part of the community once more.

Thanks in advance for any input, it will all be useful.

I’m off to AFC Fylde now (make a turn at Preston, seems ominous), I fear there will not be many there in Blue!!



As long as I am able I will continue to support our great Team. There are many calls in the media to get DA and co. out, but most of these are from genuine friends but don't have a penny to rub together to buy Him out.Talking about a phoenix club sounds good but I'm scared that our Town would never have an EFL club ever again.
However, I would every trust and confidence if Phil T. was heavily involved bringing new backers into the club to get rid of the deedahs. I'm sure he would bring to the table not only money men but also someone interested in CFC and Football. I'm grateful that DA hasn't completely pulled the plug because that would be the end.
Good luck Phil do your best along with everyone's help to make us a great club again.In You we trust.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 12:49 PM

View Postphiltooleycfss, on 08 October 2019 - 10:53 AM, said:

Hello again, it’s been some time since I’ve been on here! I think we were readying ourselves for a play-off game to potentially move into level two for the first time since 1951.

The reason I’m posting again is simple, the club I love and have volunteered at for 42 years is dying. That’s not a position that I ever envisaged when we were being entertained by Paul Cook’s superb side, and whilst at that time I could see that we were more likely to have bad times rather than great times, a second straight relegation battle in the National League did not feature in any of my nightmare scenarios back then.

Our club (that’s OUR CLUB) has been run into the ground and trust in the governance and management capabilities is at an all-time low and continues to fall week by week. Crowds have plummeted after four years of declining results and many decisions, on and off the field, have baffled the majority.

That said, all I want to do at this stage is ask a question, aimed at fans that have been loyal regulars but now don’t come as often or even not at all.

The question is, if the club were to be wholly taken over by a consortium of genuine local supporters, would you consider returning on a more regular basis even if the immediate prospect of a significant upturn in results was not forthcoming?

If your answer is ‘yes’ the response is easy, but please add any comments that could help potential bidders formulate their plans.

If your answer is ‘no’ please say what would need to be implemented to encourage you to return.

I’m asking the question in good faith to potentially help out real and genuine interest in the club’s future wellbeing to enable pragmatic decisions and predictions to be made by a number of people who genuinely have an interest in getting the club back on track and returning to being a vital and respected part of the community once more.

Thanks in advance for any input, it will all be useful.

I’m off to AFC Fylde now (make a turn at Preston, seems ominous), I fear there will not be many there in Blue!!

Phil


Thanks for your post, Phil.

I still have a ST and still go but I would definitely welcome and fully support a genuine local consortium who have the interests of the club at heart.

I'd even be prepared to buy a ST in advance for one, two or three seasons if this type of scheme helped in the costings and budgeting of the potential new ownership. I seem to remember my ex brother-in-law participating in a similar scheme to help finance Norwich City when they had financial problems.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 12:54 PM

Quite a sad thread (again) but really does highlight where we are at.

I've not had a ST for 5 years after probably 10/11 seasons of having one and i've not been to a home game since we beat Sutton on the tele in March.

I won't be back either and barely even do away games now until the regime has gone. And I'd want every single one of them gone.

You can sign me up to 3 STs with everyone else that comes with it right away. I miss going to the match, i've been all over the country groundhopping and it still doesn't compare to watching Town for me. I just can't bring myself to fund this regime in any way show any of them my support.

Good luck Phil, and whoever else may be lurking in the background. You have my full support.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 12:57 PM

I’ve got a season ticket and I still go although more out of habit and blind faith than anything else, I can’t remember the last time I genuinely enjoyed a game, I don’t look forward to game days and I don’t turn up with any semblance of hope, anticipation or confidence that I am going to be entertained or enjoy the afternoon. I’m retired with money in the bank and have nothing to do this afternoon / evening but I have absolutely no intention of going to watch more depressing drivel at Fylde.
As others have said there is no faith in almost any aspect of the current regime and their credentials or capability to run a football club so I can only assume that a complete change at the top table (and their appointees) would be a massive step forward.
Issues like tittle tattling to employers about what email addresses fans use and the unbalanced and heavy handed initial response to Gerrard gate have only served to antagonise the fan base further, and I can’t believe the club hierarchy couldn’t see that coming!?
On the playing side we have recruited shambolically for a number of years now, relying on employing mates rather than genuine talent spotting. Also recruiting worse than average younger players whilst freezing out our own youth prospects, potentially stifling their development in favour of less talented players. At our level I think it’s crucial to keep bringing your own players through both for the potential of sell on and fan buy in.
If your plans come off finding and proving the credibility of local folk with the club at heart is key, along with an open and honest assessment of the clubs current standing with a realistic plan of how to improve. Everybody knows we are in the poop, accepting it and making a decent plan to tackle it will be progress. You’ve been around long enough to know that football fans can be a fickle old bunch but you have the potential to get a lot of support back and buy yourself a decent honeymoon period into the bargain.
The club has all the facilities to be banking money week in week out, we need people in place committed to making that happen and banking the money for the benefit of the club.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 12:59 PM

Hi Phil,

As I stated in an earlier thread this morning that I have had enough. I will not be buying season tickets next season for myself and son.

However, if people who are genuine supporters and have the interests of the club at heart and not purely financial gain, who invested in good players who will play attractive
attacking football then yes I would buy 2 season tickets.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:05 PM

I gave up my season ticket 3 year ago, 60% down to match day and 40% ownership

Since then I gave done 21, 19 and this year I’m on course to do similar, unless something really pushes me over the edge and that won’t be performances. Like others I go out of a habit I can’t kick just yet.

If a local takeover took place I’d certainly invest in a season ticket. I’d also put some money in if there was a scheme for smaller investors that had the correct safeguards, not financial but something that would give you a real say in the future of the club - something that avoids the kind of demise CFSS had when DA moved in.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:07 PM

but is the club REALLY for sale?
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:08 PM

View PostSammy Spireite, on 08 October 2019 - 12:38 PM, said:

The only Ass. Director prepared to engage with fans was Leslie who, it seems, dissapeared when her comments on one particular issues didn't match those of GB (was it the benches saga?)

Either she was chastised for such comments, or she had an epiphany and realised where she was...

The associate directors are an absolute shower.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:09 PM

The club hasn't had a penny of mine since 5/12/15. If there was a complete clear out of this lot for new, honest, open owners, I would do my best to come over from the North West as often as time and finances allowed.

My son is at an age where he is asking to go to football. I'd be bringing him home, whereas currently, I'll be taking him to watch Chester.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:15 PM

View Postphiltooleycfss, on 08 October 2019 - 10:53 AM, said:

Hello again, it’s been some time since I’ve been on here! I think we were readying ourselves for a play-off game to potentially move into level two for the first time since 1951.

The reason I’m posting again is simple, the club I love and have volunteered at for 42 years is dying. That’s not a position that I ever envisaged when we were being entertained by Paul Cook’s superb side, and whilst at that time I could see that we were more likely to have bad times rather than great times, a second straight relegation battle in the National League did not feature in any of my nightmare scenarios back then.

Our club (that’s OUR CLUB) has been run into the ground and trust in the governance and management capabilities is at an all-time low and continues to fall week by week. Crowds have plummeted after four years of declining results and many decisions, on and off the field, have baffled the majority.

That said, all I want to do at this stage is ask a question, aimed at fans that have been loyal regulars but now don’t come as often or even not at all.

The question is, if the club were to be wholly taken over by a consortium of genuine local supporters, would you consider returning on a more regular basis even if the immediate prospect of a significant upturn in results was not forthcoming?

If your answer is ‘yes’ the response is easy, but please add any comments that could help potential bidders formulate their plans.

If your answer is ‘no’ please say what would need to be implemented to encourage you to return.

I’m asking the question in good faith to potentially help out real and genuine interest in the club’s future wellbeing to enable pragmatic decisions and predictions to be made by a number of people who genuinely have an interest in getting the club back on track and returning to being a vital and respected part of the community once more.

Thanks in advance for any input, it will all be useful.

I’m off to AFC Fylde now (make a turn at Preston, seems ominous), I fear there will not be many there in Blue!!

Phil

Well done on getting the ball rolling, again!

For me, it would be nice for a local group to takeover the club but it is not essential providing there is a commitment to see the club trade within its means and in a fit and proper fashion. We all know the good clubs in the lower leagues and which model needs adopting by us going forward.

As always I am happy to help in any way I can and Jim already has my word that we will do more when this lot have disappeared.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:20 PM

So, is there something in the offing or is this purely hypothetical?
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:24 PM

A resounding 'yes' from me.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:28 PM

View PostSearch and Destroy, on 08 October 2019 - 01:20 PM, said:

So, is there something in the offing or is this purely hypothetical?

My hope is Phil is putting out the feelers and there is someone / a group sat in the background quietly happy with the amount of fans responding on here and facebook saying they would back a new regime.

With the right PR and Marketing locally the club would instantly drag back many lost fans in my opinion. It wouldn't even be THAT difficult with the amount of good feeling many would have should we ever be rid of this lot.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:36 PM

It's a YES from me.
Let's hope for a miracle and a new owner / owners come forward with some honesty and integrity the club can't carry on like this.

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:39 PM

Count me in.

Count me in.
We're on our way
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:43 PM

i think honesty, transparency, and a workable business plan by a group of people who want the same as supporters, would bring people back. Even if we get relegated this season I think with the above in place you would see an increase in st sales - and a positivity next season.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:48 PM

Yes. I would come back

Previous season ticket holder, not been for a good couple of years. Or a bad couple of years, depending on how you look at it.
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Posted 08 October 2019 - 01:53 PM

Phil

As you know, i have 3 lounge tickets, and this season have been going more to spend time with the old man rather than enjoying and looking forward to the games.

What i haven't done this season, is put further money in the pot sponsoring games. That is with a heavy heart, as i have and will always have great respect and time for Jim Brown and the job he does, but i cannot justify additional monies whilst the current regime are in place.

I long for the day that genuine football fans (Hopefully Chesterfield fans) are running the club, that respect and welcome supporters who attend or support the club in various ways.

When this happens then hopefully the matchday experience will be something to enjoy rather than endure.

GOOD LUCK

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