[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

whittman, on 06 January 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

How many other clubs have complained about this keepers antics?

Surely they/we cannot all be wrong and if the FA have any sense they will realise this

However our dimwits reacting to his provication means that in a way he has won with how he conducts himself and the trouble it has caused us

Whilst it won’t help town if I was in charge at the club I’d contact all the other clubs in the league to ask about the antics of the keeper and then report it to the fa

[Close but no prawn sarnies]

The hullabaloo surrounding this is unbelievable !!!

It was a very understandable celebration, no one was hurt or struck looking at the footage.

The problem for the club is the fact that a peaceful on the pitch protest of a week or so ago was followed by another encroachment onto the playing area ( Invasion far too strong a word). The FA could easily take the view that the club has not taken action to prevent a re occurance of the problem and levy a fine.

Now I can imagine the pure pleasure of the person alledgedly funding a fine arrising mainly from a protest against them !

[pmb2016]

Looker-on, on 07 January 2019 - 07:20 AM, said:

How did David Jones make money from the club's supporters?

As in use in the club to draw in customers for his own business nothing more

[Siberian Spireite]

Close but no prawn sarnies, on 07 January 2019 - 10:53 AM, said:

The hullabaloo surrounding this is unbelievable !!!

It was a very understandable celebration, no one was hurt or struck looking at the footage.

The problem for the club is the fact that a peaceful on the pitch protest of a week or so ago was followed by another encroachment onto the playing area ( Invasion far too strong a word). The FA could easily take the view that the club has not taken action to prevent a re occurance of the problem and levy a fine.

Now I can imagine the pure pleasure of the person alledgedly funding a fine arrising mainly from a protest against them !

I disagree that getting in the faces of opposition players like that is justified, no matter how badly they behaved. Those idiots should not have been on the pitch. People usually celebrate in the stands.

[JonB]

Close but no prawn sarnies, on 07 January 2019 - 10:53 AM, said:

The hullabaloo surrounding this is unbelievable !!!

It was a very understandable celebration, no one was hurt or struck looking at the footage.

The problem for the club is the fact that a peaceful on the pitch protest of a week or so ago was followed by another encroachment onto the playing area ( Invasion far too strong a word). The FA could easily take the view that the club has not taken action to prevent a re occurance of the problem and levy a fine.

Now I can imagine the pure pleasure of the person alledgedly funding a fine arrising mainly from a protest against them !

It looks bad due to opposition players and fans getting involved with each other and that wont be looked on favourably. Throw in the Boxing Day pitch invasion and going back further we've had instances as well there probably is scope for the FA to take a very dim view of things. Thing is with this one as well are the allegations involving the keeper both ways which make things get a bit messy, he has previous for accusations with no standing and we have folk making accusations in his direction regarding his behaviour and there is previous there as well. I'm not overly convinced their subs etc should be legging it across the pitch to get involved either. No idea what the FA will do to be honest.

[jack bauer]

JonB, on 07 January 2019 - 11:17 AM, said:

It looks bad due to opposition players and fans getting involved with each other and that wont be looked on favourably. Throw in the Boxing Day pitch invasion and going back further we've had instances as well there probably is scope for the FA to take a very dim view of things. Thing is with this one as well are the allegations involving the keeper both ways which make things get a bit messy, he has previous for accusations with no standing and we have folk making accusations in his direction regarding his behaviour and there is previous there as well. I'm not overly convinced their subs etc should be legging it across the pitch to get involved either. No idea what the FA will do to be honest.

very good point, I'd forgotten about their subs but you're right what where they doing running from the halfway line to get involved, I expect we will get punished and they won't though just think it will go that way.

[Close but no prawn sarnies]

Siberian Spireite, on 07 January 2019 - 11:14 AM, said:

I disagree that getting in the faces of opposition players like that is justified, no matter how badly they behaved. Those idiots should not have been on the pitch. People usually celebrate in the stands.

I totally agree with you, but in the real world emotions get high and people do daft things. Had the keeper not provoked the crowd they may not have reacted how they did.

Both parties are in the wrong and it should not have happened however what did happen was not a siesmic event.

Their goal keeper could defuse the situation by admitting he behaved un proffesionally he of course wont.

[JonB]

jack bauer, on 07 January 2019 - 11:25 AM, said:

very good point, I'd forgotten about their subs but you're right what where they doing running from the halfway line to get involved, I expect we will get punished and they won't though just think it will go that way.

The FA will go down the route of fan behaviour i suspect with a mention to Ebbsfleet that their players shouldnt get involved like they did. The stuff involving the keeper with his accusations towards the fans and anything regards his behaviour before and during may be different though...we shall see.

[kopblue]

Close but no prawn sarnies, on 07 January 2019 - 10:53 AM, said:

The hullabaloo surrounding this is unbelievable !!!

It was a very understandable celebration, no one was hurt or struck looking at the footage.

The problem for the club is the fact that a peaceful on the pitch protest of a week or so ago was followed by another encroachment onto the playing area ( Invasion far too strong a word). The FA could easily take the view that the club has not taken action to prevent a re occurance of the problem and levy a fine.

Now I can imagine the pure pleasure of the person alledgedly funding a fine arrising mainly from a protest against them !

While ever anyone has the opinion that the pitch invasion was understandable then we are only going to get into more problems, a points deduction might make a difference but we can't complain when total selfish morons refuse to learn

[Phil V 72]

I guess the best we could hope for is a fine and a suspended points deduction. That might at least make the would-be transgressors on the pitch think twice before doing this again.

On the alleged racial abuse, if fans at saying it didn't happen, is it possible that supporters can send witness statements to the club and/or FA contradicting what has been alleged? Or, do the FA not accept the word of supporters as unbiased and impartial?

[essexspireman]

JonB, on 07 January 2019 - 11:30 AM, said:

The FA will go down the route of fan behaviour i suspect with a mention to Ebbsfleet that their players shouldnt get involved like they did. The stuff involving the keeper with his accusations towards the fans and anything regards his behaviour before and during may be different though...we shall see.

if there were any rascist comments that is nothing to do with the club surely? That is the individual v the keeper

[JonB]

Close but no prawn sarnies, on 07 January 2019 - 11:26 AM, said:

I totally agree with you, but in the real world emotions get high and people do daft things. Had the keeper not provoked the crowd they may not have reacted how they did.

Problem is we do appear to have issues with folk in the Kop generally thinking its fine to go over the hoardings and encroach onto the pitch. Taking away the Boxing Day incident which is probably separate in how it came about we've had a number of incidents where fans have gone onto the pitch after goals\wins when they shouldnt be there, many of which we've probably got away with but some other higher profile incidents that havent. For mention of other clubs we've had two incidents now of fans getting involved with opposition keepers for some unknown reason. You could potentially understand jumping over and getting involved in a celebration with our players which some did but what goes through the mind of an idiot who thinks the way to celebrate is to run into the net and get involved with their keeper or any other players. Whether they hit them, the keeper or someone grabbed them....its just brain dead and they shouldnt be in that position for anything to happen full stop.

We've had a long spell of having to net off the first couple of rows to try and stop it happening. At the end of the day no matter what fans shouldnt be on the pitch, thousands of others managed to celebrate perfectly fine staying behind the hoardings, what was different in the eyes of the planks that deemed it necessary to jump the hoardings. As usual its a minority of idiots that are probably going to cause issues for the majority either with a possible points deduction we can ill afford or whatever other penalty we could get thrown at us.

essexspireman, on 07 January 2019 - 11:35 AM, said:

if there were any rascist comments that is nothing to do with the club surely? That is the individual v the keeper

Fans will be deemed part of the club and its the club that will be investigated and penalised by the FA i would have thought. Whether we can nip it in the bud with a quick investigation and deal with it if required may be seen favourable towards us. Its a hot topic currently so we'll have to see what happens.

[calvin plummers socks]

The issue the Club face is failing to control 'our' fans.

And the club clearly hasn't been able to.

Doesn't help with retards like Billyeald being allowed entry time and again

[Sammy Spireite]

Kop shut next home game according to Les Ashmore.

[kopblue]

Sammy Spireite, on 07 January 2019 - 11:46 AM, said:

Kop shut next home game according to Les Ashmore.

Bedford?? 😀

[JonB]

Sammy Spireite, on 07 January 2019 - 11:46 AM, said:

Kop shut next home game according to Les Ashmore.

Club decision? As i mentioned previously this is the kind of thing where the actions of an idiotic minority then inconvenience the well behaved majority but suspect those at fault wont realise this.

[jack bauer]

Sammy Spireite, on 07 January 2019 - 11:46 AM, said:

Kop shut next home game according to Les Ashmore.

will they open the north stand for away fans and give home fans east and west?

[JonB]

jack bauer, on 07 January 2019 - 11:58 AM, said:

will they open the north stand for away fans and give home fans east and west?

Will we need them both for the FA trophy game? I would suspect the little section of East Stand will be plenty for the away fans and between the West stand and whats left in the East stand that will comfortably house the demand for home fans.

[valemadness]

Sammy Spireite, on 07 January 2019 - 11:46 AM, said:

Kop shut next home game according to Les Ashmore.

He's jumped to conclusions on something Lesley has said. It is shut, for the Bedford game, nothing about the next home league game.

[Tora Tora Tora]

JonB, on 07 January 2019 - 11:56 AM, said:

Club decision? As i mentioned previously this is the kind of thing where the actions of an idiotic minority then inconvenience the well behaved majority but suspect those at fault wont realise this.

The club have to be seen to be doing something drastic. It’s the mindless minority the ire should be targeted at in this case.

Idiots