[moondog]

Eastander, on 16 December 2018 - 12:48 PM, said:

Even 'braver' report which I think deserves some accolades from BB members - Graham has certainly gone 'Above and Beyond...' for disgruntled Spireites !

https://www.derbyshi...y-tie-1-9495423

Roland Gent was the author of this particular article not Graham

[Eastander]

moondog, on 16 December 2018 - 12:54 PM, said:

Roland Gent was the author of this particular article not Graham

My apology to Mr Gent then and praise for 'his' article

[Mr Mercury]

moondog, on 16 December 2018 - 12:54 PM, said:

Roland Gent was the author of this particular article not Graham

A true "Gent", if you will!

[dim view]

MDCCCLXVI, on 12 December 2018 - 09:31 PM, said:

Good post, Mark.

I know you've been away for a while (and welcome back, by the way) but Graham's gained quite a reputation on here for his measured yet scathing reporting of Town's demise.

Indeed it might be said he's to Biggs what Paul Goodwin is to those still defending Carson and Co...

https://www.chesterf...club-statement/

With Carson on holiday, the Board says it is totally sympathetic with the fans and understands their frustrations. This statement cannot have ben made with Carson's approval. What's going on?

The whole thing is a farce. At the very time when MA is showing signs of turning things round, we appoint a CEO with a track record of interference in team matters. You could not make it up.

This post has been edited by dim view: 16 December 2018 - 06:27 PM

[DIFH]

dim view, on 16 December 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

https://www.chesterf...club-statement/

With Carson on holiday, the Board says it is totally sympathetic with the fans and understands their frustrations. This statement cannot have ben made with Carson's approval. What's going on?

The whole thing is a farce. At the very time when MA is showing signs of turning things round, we appoint a CEO with a track record of interference in team matters. You could not make it up.

Wonder who the author of this statement is.

[Westbars Spireite]

dim view, on 16 December 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

https://www.chesterf...club-statement/

With Carson on holiday, the Board says it is totally sympathetic with the fans and understands their frustrations. This statement cannot have ben made with Carson's approval. What's going on?

The whole thing is a farce. At the very time when MA is showing signs of turning things round, we appoint a CEO with a track record of interference in team matters. You could not make it up.

What track record is that? His whistle-stop tenure at Newport?

DIFH, on 16 December 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

Wonder who the author of this statement is.

It'll be Nick Johnson.

[moondog]

Quaker, on 17 December 2018 - 08:02 AM, said:

"The club is currently totally reliant on the financial contributions made by Mr Dave Allen and until which time the club is sold, it is difficult to change things".

This is what really grates me, the hold he has over everyone which leads to the board to say things like "it is difficult to change things". Unless they change things i.e. stop creating scandal after scandal after scandal nothing will be worth selling.

Its the first statement from the club I have seen in ages. but is says nothing to be fair. They acknowledge the feelings of the fans though, I suppose its something, but its not a "sorry".

Quite an admission from tbe board that they feel powerless to change how the club is being run.

[moondog]

Quaker, on 17 December 2018 - 08:59 AM, said:

That's what I thought.

I'm not sure I could do that. Their appointments are pretty pointless but what puzzles me is their desire to hang on to those appointments whatever the cost.

An alternative explanation is they had no input to the statement and it's Allen's way of drumming up demand for a buyer to emerge. A depressing thought if he's not going to be realistic about the price and disclosures a serious buyer would want.

It would be good if Lesley could confirm if she had an input to the statement

[dim view]

moondog, on 17 December 2018 - 08:35 AM, said:

Quite an admission from tbe board that they feel powerless to change how the club is being run.

…..and we have contradictory statements from MA and Carson.


MA tells the media in answer to a question about the protest that fans have now seen change. Carson sends you a postcard saying he's still in charge until the club is sold.

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moondog, on 17 December 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

An alternative explanation is they had no input to the statement and it's Allen's way of drumming up demand for a buyer to emerge. A depressing thought if he's not going to be realistic about the price and disclosures a serious buyer would want.

It would be good if Lesley could confirm if she had an input to the statement

Started the year by shaking hands with Reg Brealey and finished it by appointing Graham Bean as CEO. That is the make up of the man.

[moondog]

dim view, on 17 December 2018 - 09:50 AM, said:

…..and we have contradictory statements from MA and Carson.


MA tells the media in answer to a question about the protest that fans have now seen change. Carson sends you a postcard saying he's still in charge until the club is sold.

I expect MA at the time was assuming it meant AC would be leaving and from what he's said GB would be his new boss

[Trigger]

Benno Spire, on 13 December 2018 - 08:07 PM, said:

A suggestion
To recognise the great work of Graham and for him to the get the recognition from his employers
If everyone intent on being peaceful at the gathering carried a copy of the DT.
This increases the sales of the DT as a result of Graham’s articles and is a sign of peace

Just a thought

Just read this. Good idea and maybe as an extra incentive for the next gqthering the DT could do a front and back spread of "save our spireites" for people to hold up for the media. Everyone's a winner then

[dim view]

moondog, on 17 December 2018 - 10:05 AM, said:

I expect MA at the time was assuming it meant AC would be leaving and from what he's said GB would be his new boss

Yep, so Carson undermines MA yet again.

[moondog]

dim view, on 17 December 2018 - 10:11 AM, said:

Yep, so Carson undermines MA yet again.

I doubt at the time he sent me that message he was aware of what MA had said.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Martin Allen's an experienced old pro.

He'll know that at best such stuff deflects from on-field failings and at worst is an easy excuse if he's fired...

[jack bauer]

Quaker, on 17 December 2018 - 08:02 AM, said:

"The club is currently totally reliant on the financial contributions made by Mr Dave Allen and until which time the club is sold, it is difficult to change things".

This is what really grates me, the hold he has over everyone which leads to the board to say things like "it is difficult to change things". Unless they change things i.e. stop creating scandal after scandal after scandal nothing will be worth selling.

Its the first statement from the club I have seen in ages. but is says nothing to be fair. They acknowledge the feelings of the fans though, I suppose its something, but its not a "sorry".

I know it may seem like i'm nit picking here but "the club is totally reliant on the financial contributions made by Mr Dave Allen", is this true? do we all get into games for free? is the food and drink on the concourses given out? do the sponsors just get advertising boards for nothing? other people are putting money in, if they didn't well I think we know that things may change quicker.

[dim view]

jack bauer, on 17 December 2018 - 11:40 AM, said:

I know it may seem like i'm nit picking here but "the club is totally reliant on the financial contributions made by Mr Dave Allen", is this true? do we all get into games for free? is the food and drink on the concourses given out? do the sponsors just get advertising boards for nothing? other people are putting money in, if they didn't well I think we know that things may change quicker.

I can see that the net outcome is always a shortfall but the main point, surely, is that Directors at most clubs share the responsibility of the funding burden. All Directors should have the wherewithal to muck in. I doubt if Carson, Croot, Warner have chucked a penny in in 4 years to help cash flow.

[martatcross]

dim view, on 17 December 2018 - 12:01 PM, said:

I can see that the net outcome is always a shortfall but the main point, surely, is that Directors at most clubs share the responsibility of the funding burden. All Directors should have the wherewithal to muck in. I doubt if Carson, Croot, Warner have chucked a penny in in 4 years to help cash flow.

The idea of sharing burden could be enhanced by other quarters but when our shirt sponsor and scoreboard sponsor pull out for the shenanigans happening within the club. Then another wastes her time helping interview Associate directors only to have another party given a job it looks from where I'm stood DA is adding to his own financial burdens. Tomlinson's also given a figure of £2million for 20% share also given how unrealistic that figure is that also adds to his own financial burden.