[Tha Knows...]

dim view, on 21 October 2017 - 06:31 PM, said:

I'd like to know who spotted Nolan and Dennis. Could it have been Turner?

Both signed by Danny of course

MDCCCLXVI, on 21 October 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

Spoke to a mate of mine this week who's a relative in the Forest set-up.

We agreed that Jack will already have a couple or three of their best lads lined up.

That might be good unless the mountain we face in January is near insurmountable

This post has been edited by Spire-Power: 21 October 2017 - 06:44 PM

[Nivo]

60s 70s Spireite, on 21 October 2017 - 06:19 PM, said:

I'll give you some hope. Newport at this stage last season had only 7 points.
http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/37663736
Also notice none of the bottom 5 eventually went down.

Try this one - https://www.11v11.co...-november-2016/

And this one - https://www.11v11.co...-november-2016/

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peakblue, on 21 October 2017 - 06:02 PM, said:

Hartlepool went down with 46 pts,leyton orient 36 pts.hartlepool won 11 games whilst leyton orient won 10

Best to assume it's more likely to be 46 than 36 as the teams around us aren't exactly showing signs of laying down and dying

[dim view]

Spire-Power, on 21 October 2017 - 06:44 PM, said:

Both signed by Danny of course

yep, but who spotted, watched, and recommended them?

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dim view, on 21 October 2017 - 06:55 PM, said:

yep, but who spotted, watched, and recommended them?

You tell me.

[dim view]

Spire-Power, on 21 October 2017 - 06:56 PM, said:

You tell me.

I don't know. Danny got rid of Mitchell. He must have had his own contacts.

[Spireiteboy155]

60s 70s Spireite, on 21 October 2017 - 06:19 PM, said:

I'll give you some hope. Newport at this stage last season had only 7 points.
http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/37663736
Also notice none of the bottom 5 eventually went down.

And Exeter came close to going up... 🤔

Spire-Power, on 21 October 2017 - 06:52 PM, said:

Best to assume it's more likely to be 46 than 36 as the teams around us aren't exactly showing signs of laying down and dying

Surely it has to be a 50 point mentality.

[Spireiteboy155]

Nivo, on 21 October 2017 - 06:52 PM, said:

Try this one - https://www.11v11.co...-november-2016/

And this one - https://www.11v11.co...-november-2016/

Note that no one had lost 11 games. Or even close.
Also 6 point separared the entire bottom half. We are now 6 points from safety.

Not really comparable.

[60s 70s Spireite]

dim view, on 21 October 2017 - 06:59 PM, said:

I don't know. Danny got rid of Mitchell. He must have had his own contacts.

Gary Liddle re Nolan? http://www.derbyshir...nolan-1-8089475

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A good number of posters on here, not me, were glad to see the back of Nolan. He struggled following injury admittedly but you could see he had quality. Even more clamoured for the sacking of Danny. We were struggling but just outside the bottom 4 in the league above when he got the bullet. His negative tactics - and they were - angered fans, perhaps rightly . But we can see in hindsight he was doing his best in all the circumstances to try and keep us in L1. If he had kept us up by boring the nads off us it would have been a blessing. And I'd take the same this season (not that Jack is likely to play that way but just saying). Survival at all costs.

[Tha Knows...]

Spireiteboy155, on 21 October 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

And Exeter came close to going up... 🤔


Surely it has to be a 50 point mentality.

I agree. Its the equivalent of 14 wins from 31 games. What the asking rate will be in January is anyone's guess.

[Spire-Heights]

Spire-Power, on 21 October 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

A good number of posters on here, not me, were glad to see the back of Nolan. He struggled following injury admittedly but you could see he had quality. Even more clamoured for the sacking of Danny. We were struggling but just outside the bottom 4 in the league above when he got the bullet. His negative tactics - and they were - angered fans, perhaps rightly . But we can see in hindsight he was doing his best in all the circumstances to try and keep us in L1. If he had kept us up by boring the nads off us it would have been a blessing. And I'd take the same this season (not that Jack is likely to play that way but just saying). Survival at all costs.

Nolan is probably the best CM player we’ve had at the club since Morsy and Ryan.

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Spire-Heights, on 21 October 2017 - 07:11 PM, said:

Nolan is probably the best CM player we’ve had at the club since Morsy and Ryan.

Not probably, certainly. Danny had to sign a better defensive CM than Liddle though.

This post has been edited by Spire-Power: 21 October 2017 - 07:16 PM

[jack bauer]

Spire-Power, on 21 October 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

A good number of posters on here, not me, were glad to see the back of Nolan. He struggled following injury admittedly but you could see he had quality. Even more clamoured for the sacking of Danny. We were struggling but just outside the bottom 4 in the league above when he got the bullet. His negative tactics - and they were - angered fans, perhaps rightly . But we can see in hindsight he was doing his best in all the circumstances to try and keep us in L1. If he had kept us up by boring the nads off us it would have been a blessing. And I'd take the same this season (not that Jack is likely to play that way but just saying). Survival at all costs.

danny was doing a decent job, as fans we were still a little hung over from the cook era and so the dull football plus being down the bottom end was hard to take at times but staying up was all that really mattered because with the club a shambles off the field being in league one at least kept us away from the trap door of the football league altogether. roll on 11 months and that is where we find ourselves. as for Nolan, better than any of the cm players we currently have.

[60s 70s Spireite]

Spireiteboy155, on 21 October 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

And Exeter came close to going up... 🤔

55 points from their last 30 games. http://footstats.co....task=formguide.

[Wooden Spoon]

Ok, just got home, so I will give my view and opinions


We played well, and until they scored we’re by far the better team.
Hird was my my MOM, very closely followed by Evatt and Wier.
We played good football in the first half without offering too much threat.
We were desperately lacking a left footer.
Anyon got a ball in the chin by missing it, and I didn’t think the disallowed goal was a foul, but poor keeping. We got away with it and 0-0 HT was fair.
We said at HT that we needed a Tommy back, some width and a natural left foot.
Wiseman didn’t look injured, but that’s a view from the terrace not the bench, and replaced. But with initial positive results giving more width and offensive capacity, and we scored.
At 1-0 we were good value and comfortable(ish)
BUT. We lost Wisemans defensive discipline. They got a free kick. 5 yards wide of the area, a crossing rather than shooting position.
Everyone in the ground expecting a cross to the back post, in swinging to use the wind advantage- and so it came. All the way to the back post and in. A terrible goal to concede. The keeper was no where near it, in the middle of the goal, flapping like a pigeon shot with an air rifle.
Up to then, they had been contained ( bar the single disallowed chance) and we’re subdued, and we were in control. After that, there really was only going to be one winner. The big lads targeted our left side, got some joy and after another cross forced a save from the keeper. Who pushed the ball back into the danger area, instead of out, saved again, before the third chance was put away.
The mood of frustration and disappointment was tangible both on the terrace and the players body language. They knew as we did we’d thrown 3 points away. Everyone was gutted.
The fans even hugged players over the fence at the end as “so close boys, don’t give up”

Summary- Up until the goal none of the outfield players were poor. After the heads dropped.
We need tommy back desperately, and we need JBW to be fit.
Put tommy in goal and JBW and Wisemsnnat full backs in today’s side and we will win football matches.
The contrast of forward passing, pressing football is light years away from from the dog poo seen under Caldwell

[Wooden Spoon]

Spire-Power, on 21 October 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

A good number of posters on here, not me, were glad to see the back of Nolan. He struggled following injury admittedly but you could see he had quality. Even more clamoured for the sacking of Danny. We were struggling but just outside the bottom 4 in the league above when he got the bullet. His negative tactics - and they were - angered fans, perhaps rightly . But we can see in hindsight he was doing his best in all the circumstances to try and keep us in L1. If he had kept us up by boring the nads off us it would have been a blessing. And I'd take the same this season (not that Jack is likely to play that way but just saying). Survival at all costs.

I neither slated Danny or Danny. They were not the problem. I hope now the problem has been pushed to the shadow and a new CEO and manage team can do their jobs unhindered by South Yorkshire arrogance incompetence and self centred egotistical incompetence

[jack bauer]

a kick in the balls, on 21 October 2017 - 07:17 PM, said:

Ok, just got home, so I will give my view and opinions


We played well, and until they scored we’re by far the better team.
Hird was my my MOM, very closely followed by Evatt and Wier.
We played good football in the first half without offering too much threat.
We were desperately lacking a left footer.
Anyon got a ball in the chin by missing it, and I didn’t think the disallowed goal was a foul, but poor keeping. We got away with it and 0-0 HT was fair.
We said at HT that we needed a Tommy back, some width and a natural left foot.
Wiseman didn’t look injured, but that’s a view from the terrace not the bench, and replaced. But with initial positive results giving more width and offensive capacity, and we scored.
At 1-0 we were good value and comfortable(ish)
BUT. We lost Wisemans defensive discipline. They got a free kick. 5 yards wide of the area, a crossing rather than shooting position.
Everyone in the ground expecting a cross to the back post, in swinging to use the wind advantage- and so it came. All the way to the back post and in. A terrible goal to concede. The keeper was no where near it, in the middle of the goal, flapping like a pigeon shot with an air rifle.
Up to then, they had been contained ( bar the single disallowed chance) and we’re subdued, and we were in control. After that, there really was only going to be one winner. The big lads targeted our left side, got some joy and after another cross forced a save from the keeper. Who pushed the ball back into the danger area, instead of out, saved again, before the third chance was put away.
The mood of frustration and disappointment was tangible both on the terrace and the players body language. They knew as we did we’d thrown 3 points away. Everyone was gutted.
The fans even hugged players over the fence at the end as “so close boys, don’t give up”

Summary- Up until the goal none of the outfield players were poor. After the heads dropped.
We need tommy back desperately, and we need JBW to be fit.
Put tommy in goal and JBW and Wisemsnnat full backs in today’s side and we will win football matches.
The contrast of forward passing, pressing football is light years away from from the dog poo seen under Caldwell

thanks for providing this summary, I've watched the goals and wondered if I was thinking too harshly of anyon on the 2nd goal, he did save it twice after all but the 1st save did present the ball straight back to their striker.

[60s 70s Spireite]

Spire-Power, on 21 October 2017 - 07:13 PM, said:

Not probably, certainly. Danny had to sign a better defensive CM than Liddle though.

I'm sure Danny would have loved to have signed a better player also.

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60s 70s Spireite, on 21 October 2017 - 07:23 PM, said:

I'm sure Danny would have loved to have signed a better player also.

Maybe there wasnt much available in January sales