[Blue5]

When is the AGM?

Will Mike Warner be as quick this year as he was last year to try and steer questions away from this topic given the investigations by the EFL and Football Association?

[Mrhappy]

He will likely say it wouldn't be right or proper whilst the FA are continuing their investigations. Hope not, because that wouldn't be right or proper on his part.

[dim view]

Blue5, on 09 October 2017 - 11:57 AM, said:

When is the AGM?

Will Mike Warner be as quick this year as he was last year to try and steer questions away from this topic given the investigations by the EFL and Football Association?

Mike of course manipulated the AGM, insisting that most questions about the accounts be moved to AOB. I'll leave you to decide whether this absurdity was an act of genius or ignorance. Any road up, it had the effect that the show of hands approving the accounts quickly went through on the nod, and any later questions which he also quickly halted couldn't affect that outcome.

[moondog]

Nivo, on 23 September 2017 - 07:39 PM, said:

Did you guys ever get a plausible explanation why a supplier to Sheffield's Assay Office were transferring funds into the company owned by Liam Sutcliffe and Chris Turner?

I've just received a response from AC on this point who says

"There was nothing sinister to this. Regency Shipping are a Secure Transport Company and I have used them at SAO for 15 years. They have sponsored the Academy @ £6,000 a year as a favour to me for the last 6 or 7 years.

About 3 years ago the Development School (Liam Sutcliffe) put a match on for one of the directors under 14’s sides to play one of Liam’s teams and then watch a home game in the afternoon. They kept in touch with Liam.Regency had then got confused and assumed both the Academy and Development School was one pot and they sent their annual sponsorship to Liam and he banked it. Chris Breeze later highlighted this to me and I stepped in and calrified the situation and the money was transferred from Liam to CFC Academy.

Liam basically saw an opportunity to take £6,000 off Regency by letting them think everything was one big family !!

Mystery solved… they still continue to be a major sponsor of the Academy and this year appear on the shirts as no one else has sponsored the shirts"

[calvin plummers socks]

moondog, on 09 October 2017 - 12:47 PM, said:

I've just received a response from AC on this point who says

"There was nothing sinister to this. Regency Shipping are a Secure Transport Company and I have used them at SAO for 15 years. They have sponsored the Academy @ £6,000 a year as a favour to me for the last 6 or 7 years.

About 3 years ago the Development School (Liam Sutcliffe) put a match on for one of the directors under 14’s sides to play one of Liam’s teams and then watch a home game in the afternoon. They kept in touch with Liam.Regency had then got confused and assumed both the Academy and Development School was one pot and they sent their annual sponsorship to Liam and he banked it. Chris Breeze later highlighted this to me and I stepped in and calrified the situation and the money was transferred from Liam to CFC Academy.

Liam basically saw an opportunity to take £6,000 off Regency by letting them think everything was one big family !!

Mystery solved… they still continue to be a major sponsor of the Academy and this year appear on the shirts as no one else has sponsored the shirts"

Amateurs

[dim view]

moondog, on 09 October 2017 - 12:47 PM, said:

I've just received a response from AC on this point who says

"There was nothing sinister to this. Regency Shipping are a Secure Transport Company and I have used them at SAO for 15 years. They have sponsored the Academy @ £6,000 a year as a favour to me for the last 6 or 7 years.

About 3 years ago the Development School (Liam Sutcliffe) put a match on for one of the directors under 14’s sides to play one of Liam’s teams and then watch a home game in the afternoon. They kept in touch with Liam.Regency had then got confused and assumed both the Academy and Development School was one pot and they sent their annual sponsorship to Liam and he banked it. Chris Breeze later highlighted this to me and I stepped in and calrified the situation and the money was transferred from Liam to CFC Academy.

Liam basically saw an opportunity to take £6,000 off Regency by letting them think everything was one big family !!

Mystery solved… they still continue to be a major sponsor of the Academy and this year appear on the shirts as no one else has sponsored the shirts"

How can Sutcliffe secretly persuading Regency Shipping that 'everything was one big family' and then accepting what looks like £6k in cash from them when he knew it was vital for the well being of the Academy not be sinister?

Moondog. Can you please ask Ashley to confirm that this was a single occurrence?

This post has been edited by dim view: 09 October 2017 - 02:45 PM

[Blue5]

moondog, on 09 October 2017 - 12:47 PM, said:

I've just received a response from AC on this point who says

"There was nothing sinister to this. Regency Shipping are a Secure Transport Company and I have used them at SAO for 15 years. They have sponsored the Academy @ £6,000 a year as a favour to me for the last 6 or 7 years.

About 3 years ago the Development School (Liam Sutcliffe) put a match on for one of the directors under 14’s sides to play one of Liam’s teams and then watch a home game in the afternoon. They kept in touch with Liam.Regency had then got confused and assumed both the Academy and Development School was one pot and they sent their annual sponsorship to Liam and he banked it. Chris Breeze later highlighted this to me and I stepped in and calrified the situation and the money was transferred from Liam to CFC Academy.

Liam basically saw an opportunity to take £6,000 off Regency by letting them think everything was one big family !!

Mystery solved… they still continue to be a major sponsor of the Academy and this year appear on the shirts as no one else has sponsored the shirts"

It is a real shame that no one will be able to verify this with Chris as the last time I saw him, coming out of the offices of Banner Jones he looked in a bad way. In fact, I stupidly thought that Banner Jones had started doing dental work because Chris's lips had been sewed together, it then dawned on me what it was, the CFC confidentiality agreement.

This post has been edited by Blue5: 09 October 2017 - 03:34 PM

[Looker-on]

moondog, on 09 October 2017 - 12:47 PM, said:

I've just received a response from AC on this point who says

"Regency had then got confused...

[Wooden Spoon]

calvin plummers socks said:

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Amateurs

Liars

[Benno Spire]

moondog, on 09 October 2017 - 12:47 PM, said:

I've just received a response from AC on this point who says

"There was nothing sinister to this. Regency Shipping are a Secure Transport Company and I have used them at SAO for 15 years. They have sponsored the Academy @ £6,000 a year as a favour to me for the last 6 or 7 years.

About 3 years ago the Development School (Liam Sutcliffe) put a match on for one of the directors under 14’s sides to play one of Liam’s teams and then watch a home game in the afternoon. They kept in touch with Liam.Regency had then got confused and assumed both the Academy and Development School was one pot and they sent their annual sponsorship to Liam and he banked it. Chris Breeze later highlighted this to me and I stepped in and calrified the situation and the money was transferred from Liam to CFC Academy.

Liam basically saw an opportunity to take £6,000 off Regency by letting them think everything was one big family !!

Mystery solved… they still continue to be a major sponsor of the Academy and this year appear on the shirts as no one else has sponsored the shirts"

If that is true, then it is fraud eg taking money by deception and should have been reported to the police, can you ask AC why he did not do this

[s42blue]

Benno Spire, on 09 October 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

If that is true, then it is fraud eg taking money by deception and should have been reported to the police, can you ask AC why he did not do this

Exactly. Does he genuinely think the fans are naive and will accept this as truth and go away??

[Stockholm Spireite]

Benno Spire, on 09 October 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

If that is true, then it is fraud eg taking money by deception and should have been reported to the police, can you ask AC why he did not do this

Simple: his phone had been lost at the exact same moment Liam's laptop went missing, so he couldn't call. As the club and the development centre were 2 separate legal entities, it would have been inappropriate to use the CFC phone for such a frivolous matter.

Or: reporting this would mean explaining that a man who loaned 30k of his own money to the same man who just took 6k from a company that the man who loaned 30k uses for his "real job" just had someone run rings around him...

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

moondog, on 09 October 2017 - 12:47 PM, said:

I've just received a response from AC on this point who says

"There was nothing sinister to this. Regency Shipping are a Secure Transport Company and I have used them at SAO for 15 years. They have sponsored the Academy @ £6,000 a year as a favour to me for the last 6 or 7 years.

About 3 years ago the Development School (Liam Sutcliffe) put a match on for one of the directors under 14’s sides to play one of Liam’s teams and then watch a home game in the afternoon. They kept in touch with Liam.Regency had then got confused and assumed both the Academy and Development School was one pot and they sent their annual sponsorship to Liam and he banked it. Chris Breeze later highlighted this to me and I stepped in and calrified the situation and the money was transferred from Liam to CFC Academy.

Liam basically saw an opportunity to take £6,000 off Regency by letting them think everything was one big family !!

Mystery solved… they still continue to be a major sponsor of the Academy and this year appear on the shirts as no one else has sponsored the shirts"

So Blacks solicitors, with whom the Club had a relationship for a number of years, suddenly got 'confused' over where to send their CCJ, and now Regency Shipping, with whom Carson has had a relationship for fifteen years, got similarly 'confused' where to send their cheque. A cheque that'd presumably gone into the right account for quite some time.

And I'd echo the question of why Sutcliffe wasn't at the very least disciplined and better still charged with fraud?

Or is that being handled by the same department that're handing the alleged hacking of Carson's social media...

This post has been edited by MDCCCLXVI: 09 October 2017 - 05:05 PM

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

dim view, on 09 October 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

How can Sutcliffe secretly persuading Regency Shipping that 'everything was one big family' and then accepting what looks like £6k in cash from them when he knew it was vital for the well being of the Academy not be sinister?

Moondog. Can you please ask Ashley to confirm that this was a single occurrence?

There doesn’t appear to have been many financial controls at the club for a very long time

[moondog]

dim view, on 09 October 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

How can Sutcliffe secretly persuading Regency Shipping that 'everything was one big family' and then accepting what looks like £6k in cash from them when he knew it was vital for the well being of the Academy not be sinister?

Moondog. Can you please ask Ashley to confirm that this was a single occurrence?

Hasn't he confirmed it is by only referring to one of the annual £6,000 payments being given to Liam ?

[calvin plummers socks]

moondog, on 09 October 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

Hasn't he confirmed it is by only referring to one of the annual £6,000 payments being given to Liam ?

Any update on the Police investigation into the offensive tweet to a young fan?

[moondog]

calvin plummers socks, on 09 October 2017 - 08:17 PM, said:

Any update on the Police investigation into the offensive tweet to a young fan?

What Police investigation and when did swearing at somebody become a criminal offence ?

[calvin plummers socks]

moondog, on 09 October 2017 - 08:22 PM, said:

What Police investigation and when did swearing at somebody become a criminal offence ?

When a young fan was called a c*** from his twitter account and then said he had been hacked and it had become a police matter......?
Did I get that wrong?

This post has been edited by calvin plummers socks: 09 October 2017 - 08:25 PM

[moondog]

calvin plummers socks, on 09 October 2017 - 08:24 PM, said:

When he called a fan a c*** and said he had been hacked and it had become a police matter......

I don't recall he said it had become a Police matter

[moondog]

This is what he said

"It would appear my Twitter and Emails have been accessed on my Computer. I have been advised to suspend this account. Apologies"