[Cartman]

this posted on facebook group - not bad!

[Half Full]

JonB, on 25 August 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

Hardly the first manager in history to go back to his old club for players or sign players he is familiar with....Sheridan did it with some good success the year he won League 2 with us and Cook has done it to an extent as well.

Don't have a problem with him getting players he knows and know him. Just interested where Guy Branson fits into to any of this. Is he looking further afield for the longer term?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

We needed a left back and Caldwell's signed a left back.

Fair play for that.

Meanwhile word from the North West is this lad has talent but has suffered fitness issues over recent seasons, hence the limited appearances.

So Cook doing us a favour or having a clear-out?

I say let's judge on what we see of him in a Town shirt.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Half Full, on 25 August 2017 - 10:50 AM, said:

Don't have a problem with him getting players he knows and know him. Just interested where Guy Branson fits into to any of this. Is he looking further afield for the longer term?

The two ex Scunthorpe lads came via Branston's former agency, so I guess he was instrumental in their arrival. As for others it's not yet clear.

The way I see it he and the Manager are inextricably linked: both were appointed by Carson, both gave it large about their connections at last season's fans' forum and both should therefore 'live or die' depending upon results.

Especially as this could be 'last chance saloon' for GB given his acrimonious exit from Notts.

This post has been edited by MDCCCLXVI: 25 August 2017 - 11:08 AM

[Goku]

Saw on the BBC Sport preview for this match that Joe Rowley is back in training for us. That's good.

[Westbars Spireite]

Are we getting a viable team together to threaten the top 3?

[Essex_Spireite]

Half Full, on 25 August 2017 - 10:50 AM, said:

Don't have a problem with him getting players he knows and know him. Just interested where Guy Branson fits into to any of this. Is he looking further afield for the longer term?

Branston was in Stoke this week to watch them against Rochdale. Scouting? not sure.

[whittman]

60s 70s Spireite, on 25 August 2017 - 07:09 AM, said:

Man United took El Fitouri.
At 5 foot 7, you have to think Kellet's assets must include looking after the ball, and playing as a wing back. When he joined Wigan, he said he liked playing in a 3-5-2.

Re the number of appearances, apparently he had a serious knee injury at the July 2016 Portugal training camp (that sounds familiar!)

How tall is Leighton Baines and he started at Wigan?

Just saying

[Sammy Spireite]

moondog, on 25 August 2017 - 07:11 AM, said:

In reality now the recall/send back option has gone it's not much different than a one year deal, except he wouldn't be our player to sell in January

but can be recalled when the window opens again in January.

[dim view]

Westbars Spireite, on 25 August 2017 - 12:27 PM, said:

Are we getting a viable team together to threaten the top 3?

Just been told another player in this afternoon on a permanent deal, 'one for the future'.

Plus, a couple of our young 'uns are going out on loan, and one senior player might be leaving.

No names given.

[moondog]

Sammy Spireite, on 25 August 2017 - 12:54 PM, said:

but can be recalled when the window opens again in January.

Does that not depend on the terms of the deal Lee Novak when we had him being an example

[FORZA AZZURRI]

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rammes/p05d90x8

Radio Dedarr pre Newport and incoming signings

[JonB]

I think, although they change them all the time so could be wrong, by the rules any "Long Term Loan" is window to window half a season at a time in that in can only be cancelled\ended during a transfer window and there isnt a Season Long Loan as such in terms of the League rules. However i presume a season long loan can be agreed between clubs in that come the January window they will just extend it without any issues providing there are no agreements between the clubs that it can be ended in January either by the parent club to recall to be sold or played by them or by the loaning club if they want to send him back and the loan deal allows it.

[Sammy Spireite]

moondog, on 25 August 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

Does that not depend on the terms of the deal Lee Novak when we had him being an example

I think we paid a sizeable fee for Novak so you'd imagine we'd had it in writing they wouldn't recall him.

Maybe with Binon-Williams hopefully being back by Xmas we have left an early termination clause in?

[JonB]

Here you go...seems you can do full season loans now :-

53.1.1 subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Transfer Windows, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season;

53.1.2 any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window;

53.1.3 any other early termination of a Standard Loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing (including by way of a recall clause within the Standard Loan Agreement) between the Transferor Club, the Transferee Club and the Player but can only be completed:

(a) after the expiry of 28 days; and (b) only during a Transfer Window (but subject to Regulation 53.1.4 below) unless otherwise agreed by the League in its absolute discretion (subject to such conditions as the League deems appropriate);

Seems the recall can be done but only in January and only if its written into the loan agreement. Even then can only be after 28 days, so effectively rules out loaning someone and then taking them back straight away.

[danblue]

Westbars Spireite, on 25 August 2017 - 12:27 PM, said:

Are we getting a viable team together to threaten the top 3?

I think we are. TBH, I think we have tempted players here who would be comfortable in L1.
I keep saying, it's just a matted of time before it clicks on the pitch. We've seen (well, I've noticed!) passages of play with good passing, movement and a shot on goal.
Kellett on paper is a great signing.

[Tha Knows...]

dim view, on 25 August 2017 - 01:36 PM, said:

Just been told another player in this afternoon on a permanent deal, 'one for the future'.

Plus, a couple of our young 'uns are going out on loan, and one senior player might be leaving.

No names given.

Would rather have 'one for now' but so be it. Who could be leaving permanently??

[Tha Knows...]

danblue, on 25 August 2017 - 02:15 PM, said:

I think we are. TBH, I think we have tempted players here who would be comfortable in L1.
I keep saying, it's just a matted of time before it clicks on the pitch. We've seen (well, I've noticed!) passages of play with good passing, movement and a shot on goal.
Kellett on paper is a great signing.

Let's hope he is.
If we played our best football with a back 4 on Saturday, why might GC revert to a back 3? If it's mainly about players, not formations, and we did better with a back 4, why change it for Newport? A good back 4 should play well against any team imo.
Kellett close but not yet 100% match fit according to GC. If he and Flores both start, I wonder who will drop to the bench.

[Limestone Cowboy]

dim view, on 25 August 2017 - 01:36 PM, said:

Just been told another player in this afternoon on a permanent deal, 'one for the future'.

Plus, a couple of our young 'uns are going out on loan, and one senior player might be leaving.

No names given.

McGinn to Motherwell possibly, saw a little snippet on twitter recently.

[Essex_Spireite]

Spire-Power, on 25 August 2017 - 02:35 PM, said:

Let's hope he is.
If we played our best football with a back 4 on Saturday, why might GC revert to a back 3? If it's mainly about players, not formations, and we did better with a back 4, why change it for Newport? A good back 4 should play well against any team imo.
Kellett close but not yet 100% match fit according to GC. If he and Flores both start, I wonder who will drop to the bench.

He will go to 3 at the back again because he is obsessed with the formation.

Reverting to a back 3 tomorrow at Newport will further serve as notice that Caldwell hasn't got a clue. 4 at the back, Flores in midfield...you know it makes sense Gary