[Dreamweaver]

 MDCCCLXVI, on 20 July 2017 - 11:23 AM, said:

'Moondog'?

Hopefully you can get Ashley to clear-up summat that's never been even remotely explained.

Those former CFCFDS employees who've so often been proven correct also claimed the accountant for that enterprise was at their wits end because they couldn't gain access to all the accounts.

However AC recently told us he'd had full access to those accounts despite being nothing to do with the business.

Could you pass this question onto him, please?

Thanks.

Would that be the same accountant who I believe received threats from LS ?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

 moondog, on 20 July 2017 - 11:34 AM, said:

Do I assume the question is why wasn't access to all of the accounts provided to the companies original accountant ?

With the amendment 'when you enjoyed full access to those accounts' perhaps?

Ta.

 Dreamweaver, on 20 July 2017 - 11:53 AM, said:

Would that be the same accountant who I believe received threats from LS ?

There were a number of allegations from former staff suggesting intimidation.

[Blue5]

 MDCCCLXVI, on 20 July 2017 - 11:23 AM, said:

'Moondog'?

Hopefully you can get Ashley to clear-up summat that's never been even remotely explained.

Those former CFCFDS employees who've so often been proven correct also claimed the accountant for that enterprise was at their wits end because they couldn't gain access to all the accounts.

However AC recently told us he'd had full access to those accounts despite being nothing to do with the business.

Could you pass this question onto him, please?

Thanks.

Have you considered that Chris and Liam, due to circumstance, found themselves as little more than nominee directors in their own business?

There have been some high-profile cases involving nominee directors, I would hope that your allegations are not in any way similar.

[Dreamweaver]

 Blue5, on 20 July 2017 - 01:33 PM, said:

Have you considered that Chris and Liam, due to circumstance, found themselves as little more than nominee directors in their own business?

There have been some high-profile cases involving nominee directors, I would hope that your allegations are not in any way similar.

Sutcliffe most certainly was in it up to his neck.
A person of absolutely no morals who had no issue taking everybody for every penny he could for personal gain.
A proven liar and confidence trickster who exploited every opportunity put in front of him.
Having said that I am not naïve enough to believe that the higher echelons of CFC were not fully aware of what was going on.

[calvin plummers socks]

 MDCCCLXVI, on 20 July 2017 - 12:31 PM, said:

With the amendment 'when you enjoyed full access to those accounts' perhaps?

Ta.



There were a number of allegations from former staff suggesting intimidation.

Wow this character sounds delightful

[dim view]

 Dreamweaver, on 20 July 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

Having said that I am not naïve enough to believe that the higher echelons of CFC were not fully aware of what was going on.

One fundamental conclusion that will be drawn by the Liquidator is that the accounts of CFC and CFCFDS have been intrinsically linked for the past 3 years. If it's not then it's a stitch up.

[Dreamweaver]

 dim view, on 20 July 2017 - 02:06 PM, said:

One fundamental conclusion that will be drawn by the Liquidator is that the accounts of CFC and CFCFDS have been intrinsically linked for the past 3 years. If it's not then it's a stitch up.

It would be interesting to know actually paid the liquidators ?

[dim view]

 Dreamweaver, on 20 July 2017 - 02:09 PM, said:

It would be interesting to know actually paid the liquidators ?

We were told that Carson paid.

[Dreamweaver]

 dim view, on 20 July 2017 - 02:12 PM, said:

We were told that Carson paid.

Fair enough.
But why would someone who claims to have loaned Sutcliffe circa £34k pay the liquidators fees ?
Surely that's just throwing your money away ?

[moondog]

 MDCCCLXVI, on 20 July 2017 - 12:31 PM, said:

With the amendment 'when you enjoyed full access to those accounts' perhaps?

Ta.



There were a number of allegations from former staff suggesting intimidation.

AC tells me he doesn't know why the Accountant didn't have access to all of the bank accounts and he only had access to see the balance on the main account. It was only later he found out they had several accounts across two banks.

[moondog]

 Dreamweaver, on 20 July 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

Fair enough.
But why would someone who claims to have loaned Sutcliffe circa £34k pay the liquidators fees ?
Surely that's just throwing your money away ?

AC says apart from the loan he never put another penny into the development school and neither he or CFC paid any liquidators fees. He also says the club has never been contacted by the liquidator.

[moondog]

 moondog, on 12 July 2017 - 07:06 PM, said:

I'm hearing Sutcliffe might be back working across the road, can anyone verify ?

It seems this rumour arose from Sutcliffe taking a Development School training session at Gosforth, but he's not been seen since. Incidentally AC's son no longer works for FBT.

[dim view]

 moondog, on 20 July 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

AC tells me he doesn't know why the Accountant didn't have access to all of the bank accounts and he only had access to see the balance on the main account. It was only later he found out they had several accounts across two banks.

the mere fact that he is responding to questions implies to me that he's seen the draft report.

Who asked Sutcliffe to pay the wages of CFC players Ashley?

[dim view]

 moondog, on 20 July 2017 - 04:44 PM, said:

AC says apart from the loan he never put another penny into the development school and neither he or CFC paid any liquidators fees. He also says the club has never been contacted by the liquidator.

Folks should know that we were told by the Liquidator that the meeting had been placed in doubt because the person who had agreed to pay the fee had pulled out at the last minute. Was that you Ashley? The meeting went ahead because Sutcliffe got somebody else to pay.

[Sammy Spireite]

 moondog, on 20 July 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

AC tells me he doesn't know why the Accountant didn't have access to all of the bank accounts and he only had access to see the balance on the main account. It was only later he found out they had several accounts across two banks.

IIRC correctly, didn't AC confirm he'd seen the transaction out of one of the bank accounts paying the deposit for the ill-fated trip to Paris??

[JonB]

Graham Smyth‏ @GrahamSmyth 9m9 minutes ago
Ashley Carson confirms Chesterfield are being investigated by EFL and FA over payments made to players by private academy #Spireites

Graham Smyth‏ @GrahamSmyth 8m8 minutes ago
As first reported by Derbyshire Times, Myles Wright and Jake Orrell were paid by academy set up by Chris Turner & Liam Sutcliffe #Spireites

Graham Smyth‏ @GrahamSmyth 6m6 minutes ago
Club has met with EFL and FA will look at it too. CFC also reported to Central League for playing Liam Graham under false name #Spireites

[Westbars Spireite]

About time frankly, as embarrassing as it is.

[Nivo]

 dim view, on 20 July 2017 - 05:15 PM, said:

the mere fact that he is responding to questions implies to me that he's seen the draft report.

Who asked Sutcliffe to pay the wages of CFC players Ashley?

Were cash payments being made to Ritchie Humphreys?

[Paul Fisher]

What was the conclusion of the Police report into this matter?

[Dreamweaver]

 Nivo, on 21 July 2017 - 08:09 AM, said:

Were cash payments being made to Ritchie Humphreys?

I believe Ashley Carson has already confirmed that to be correct.