[fishini]

Walton Spireite, on 15 June 2017 - 08:10 PM, said:

Utter garbage relegation certainties.

You are a boring toohat and on par with the court jester on the stupid front

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

fishini, on 16 June 2017 - 07:52 PM, said:

You are a boring toohat and on par with the court jester on the stupid front

At least for once he's entered a thread midway through, he usually just starts multiple inane threads and then never makes another post within them.

[spireitetoo]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 16 June 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

At least for once he's entered a thread midway through, he usually just starts multiple inane threads and then never makes another post within them.

We've not lost for 5 weeks....

[h again]

MDCCCLXVI, on 16 June 2017 - 01:02 PM, said:

Well look, for all our forebodings Evatt and Hird have proven pedigree - as long as nowt silly happens like getting rid of Hird or summat, this Wiseman has a reasonable record at lower league level and the double barrelled lad (great tune that, by the way) at least shouldn't get bullied.

In front of them, though...

Are you serious? Proven pedigree for being the slowest defence in L1 last season, and the goals against tally confirms it. Heavens above, we were taken to the cleaners big time by three L2 sides, and that's what we've got to look forward to this time round.
With my optimistic head on I can see where midfield and attack might come good, but central defence? Even if it were rock solid there's no cover. We're going down the same road trod by Saunders and Wilson: it can't be said too often - you build from the back.

[Wooden Spoon]

h again said:

1497650830[/url]' post='1309735']
Are you serious? Proven pedigree for being the slowest defence in L1 last season, and the goals against tally confirms it. Heavens above, we were taken to the cleaners big time by three L2 sides, and that's what we've got to look forward to this time round.
With my optimistic head on I can see where midfield and attack might come good, but central defence? Even if it were rock solid there's no cover. We're going down the same road trod by Saunders and Wilson: it can't be said too often - you build from the back.

No one gives a s*** which head you've got on, or what you think

[Bobby Darling]

h again, on 16 June 2017 - 10:07 PM, said:

Are you serious? Proven pedigree for being the slowest defence in L1 last season, and the goals against tally confirms it. Heavens above, we were taken to the cleaners big time by three L2 sides, and that's what we've got to look forward to this time round.
With my optimistic head on I can see where midfield and attack might come good, but central defence? Even if it were rock solid there's no cover. We're going down the same road trod by Saunders and Wilson: it can't be said too often - you build from the back.

[Bobby Darling]

Fair shout re last season but I think Evatt and Hird would do very well in 80% of the games. Agree midfield cover is key.

[Wooden Spoon]

fishini said:

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You are a boring toohat and on par with the court jester on the stupid front

Sorry but your way of the mark.

The court jester is head and shoulders in front

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

h again, on 16 June 2017 - 10:07 PM, said:

Are you serious? Proven pedigree for being the slowest defence in L1 last season, and the goals against tally confirms it. Heavens above, we were taken to the cleaners big time by three L2 sides, and that's what we've got to look forward to this time round.
With my optimistic head on I can see where midfield and attack might come good, but central defence? Even if it were rock solid there's no cover. We're going down the same road trod by Saunders and Wilson: it can't be said too often - you build from the back.

Sam Hird: three hundred and eighty three appearances in the second, third and fourth tier. A member of the Doncaster side promoted via the 2007/08 play offs. Five years at Chesterfield FC. A key figure in the Town team that won the L2 title, made the JPT Final at Wembley and featured in the L1 play offs. Regularly received POTY awards from fans and fellow professionals alike. Club Captain.

Ian Evatt: five hundred and eleven games including winning promotion to, and performing in the Premiership. He too was an integral part of the Spireite side that enjoyed the success detailed above. He too has won plaudits from fans and professionals alike. Club Captain.

I believe that constitutes the 'proven pedigree' to which I referred. Meanwhile it's prejudiced in the extreme to ignore wider issues, such as management tactics or diminishing squad quality, and blame individual players.

I'd also add that Hird won back his place in the side through sheer commitment, happily signing contract extensions that recognised the Club's situation, whilst Evatt penned a deal that ensured the post-Brown CFC received a fee for his sale when he could've walked away for nowt.

So could you therefore explain why you've pursued a long-running vendetta against the honest, hardworking Hird, now target someone else who's made a hugely positive contribution, yet refuse to utter a single word condemning those responsible for scandal, relegation and insolvency.

This post has been edited by MDCCCLXVI: 17 June 2017 - 08:43 AM

[Lincs Spireite]

I would also add that Evatt and Hird have a passion , desire and loyalty to the club that most fans can clearly see. Pity more players last season didn't share that passion.

[Wooden Spoon]

MDCCCLXVI said:

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Sam Hird: three hundred and eighty three appearances in the second, third and fourth tier. A member of the Doncaster side promoted via the 2007/08 play offs. Five years at Chesterfield FC. A key figure in the Town team that won the L2 title, made the JPT Final at Wembley and featured in the L1 play offs. Regularly received POTY awards from fans and fellow professionals alike. Club Captain.

Ian Evatt: five hundred and eleven games including winning promotion to, and performing in the Premiership. He too was an integral part of the Spireite side that enjoyed the success detailed above. He too has won plaudits from fans and professionals alike. Club Captain.

I believe that constitutes the 'proven pedigree' to which I referred. Meanwhile it's prejudiced in the extreme to ignore wider issues, such as management tactics or diminishing squad quality, and blame individual players.

I'd also add that Hird won back his place in the side through sheer commitment, happily signing contract extensions that recognised the Club's situation, whilst Evatt penned a deal that ensured the post-Brown CFC received a fee for his sale when he could've walked away for nowt.

So could you therefore explain why you've pursued a long-running vendetta against the honest, hardworking Hird, now target someone else who's made a hugely positive contribution, yet refuse to utter a single word condemning those responsible for scandal, relegation and insolvency.

Not only has the court jester failed to condemn those "running" the club in such a scandalous manner, he over looks the lies and deceit and publicly supported them while these revelations were coming to light, while indulging in personal attacks and smears against those who revealed these scandals, lies and deceit.


I'm sure we all remember the "running rings" offering, or the "successful business down to the CEO" post.

[Benno Spire]

spireitetoo, on 16 June 2017 - 09:23 PM, said:

We've not lost for 5 weeks....

Putting a negative spin.

We've not won for 5 weeks

[frearsghost]

Middle East, on 15 June 2017 - 07:59 PM, said:

Well Ashley you little rascal...

As per your tweets no one saw or heard of the 2 signings this week or indeed the third (allegedly) Brooster who's just been released by Everton....but then again why would we?

Because to date they are kids who are very cheap and plucked from nowhere who we hope may come good! A-la January 2017...and we know how that ended!

We need at least 4 quality experienced signings which are currently are no where to be seen...

If we enter this season with 7 experienced pro's and a squad of kids then I personally won't be buzzing...

...So get this kin sorted Mr spin doctor!!!!

The bookies have a good idea how it's going to go. Even after the signings it's the same. Mansfield favourites and Town still 16-1. That's how I see it at the moment but the signings of someone like O'Grady might shorten our odds.

[sophocles]

MDCCCLXVI, on 17 June 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

Sam Hird: three hundred and eighty three appearances in the second, third and fourth tier. A member of the Doncaster side promoted via the 2007/08 play offs. Five years at Chesterfield FC. A key figure in the Town team that won the L2 title, made the JPT Final at Wembley and featured in the L1 play offs. Regularly received POTY awards from fans and fellow professionals alike. Club Captain.

Ian Evatt: five hundred and eleven games including winning promotion to, and performing in the Premiership. He too was an integral part of the Spireite side that enjoyed the success detailed above. He too has won plaudits from fans and professionals alike. Club Captain.

I believe that constitutes the 'proven pedigree' to which I referred. Meanwhile it's prejudiced in the extreme to ignore wider issues, such as management tactics or diminishing squad quality, and blame individual players.

I'd also add that Hird won back his place in the side through sheer commitment, happily signing contract extensions that recognised the Club's situation, whilst Evatt penned a deal that ensured the post-Brown CFC received a fee for his sale when he could've walked away for nowt.

So could you therefore explain why you've pursued a long-running vendetta against the honest, hardworking Hird, now target someone else who's made a hugely positive contribution, yet refuse to utter a single word condemning those responsible for scandal, relegation and insolvency.

Totally agree; Sam Hird and Ian Evatt have been shining examples of honest commitment and professionalism for us over many seasons. No player performs at his best 100% of the time, but those two have never stopped trying to give their best for us, even as the senior management team around them has done just about everything imaginable to drag the club down. Those two players deserve every ounce of credit they can possibly be given, and anyone who attempts to discredit them deserves our contempt in my opinion.

[dim view]

sophocles, on 17 June 2017 - 02:40 PM, said:

Totally agree; Sam Hird and Ian Evatt have been shining examples of honest commitment and professionalism for us over many seasons. No player performs at his best 100% of the time, but those two have never stopped trying to give their best for us, even as the senior management team around them has done just about everything imaginable to drag the club down. Those two players deserve every ounce of credit they can possibly be given, and anyone who attempts to discredit them deserves our contempt in my opinion.

who the bludddy hell wants to discredit them?

One possible conclusion to be drawn from the manager signing a right sided CH and offering Evo a new deal is that he may be thinking of replacing Hird, or even moving him to CM. Is that discrediting him?

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

frearsghost, on 17 June 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

The bookies have a good idea how it's going to go. Even after the signings it's the same. Mansfield favourites and Town still 16-1. That's how I see it at the moment but the signings of someone like O'Grady might shorten our odds.

The bookies won't give a toss who we sign. The odds will only change if folk put money on us or not as the case may be.

[Wooden Spoon]

dim view said:

1497716359[/url]' post='1309804']
who the bludddy hell wants to discredit them?

One possible conclusion to be drawn from the manager signing a right sided CH and offering Evo a new deal is that he may be thinking of replacing Hird, or even moving him to CM. Is that discrediting him?

That is what you have said, not what the court jester has said.

[Spire-Heights]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 17 June 2017 - 04:24 PM, said:

The bookies won't give a toss who we sign. The odds will only change if folk put money on us or not as the case may be.

Really, is this how it 100% works, I'm not sure.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Spire-Heights, on 17 June 2017 - 04:26 PM, said:

Really, is this how it 100% works, I'm not sure.

Yes

[frearsghost]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 17 June 2017 - 04:24 PM, said:

The bookies won't give a toss who we sign. The odds will only change if folk put money on us or not as the case may be.

If you think bookies odds and punters bets are not determined by the kind of players a club signs or the size of its budget then I'm surprised.

PS To be fair. I talking pre-season. Pre-season odds do tend to hold although, if an unfancied team hits the top spot, who they signed does go out of the window as their odds will shorten to reflect their present position.

This post has been edited by frearsghost: 17 June 2017 - 07:20 PM