[Mrhappy]

Steak pie please, on 21 May 2017 - 05:35 AM, said:

One OUT of the several IS warned, is the way I read it, not several WERE warned

"One of several 'Bob's Board' members exposing corruption and scandal is warned to cease posting on the forum amidst threats."
Edit - fat fingers and a phone make multiple quoting a nightmare

Yeah, you're right 😬 That's why reading and posting on the forum isn't a good idea after a few beers.

[dim view]

MDCCCLXVI, on 20 May 2017 - 10:56 AM, said:

One of several 'Bob's Board' members exposing corruption and scandal is warned to cease posting on the forum amidst threats.

The stakes are very high.
In this scenario there could be as much as £3m riding on a deal to sell the club.

That being he difference between what they get if they sell to somebody who passes FA due diligence tests compared to somebody who passes proper due diligence tests.

Anybody in the second category would fall about laughing at Allen's valuation of his shares. Anybody in the first category who agrees on paper to pay Allen his valuation must, along with Ashley, be assuming we are stupid.

Alternatively, Ashley has to implement a long term plan to make Allen's valuation fair. Good luck to him. I'll give him some credit for starting the process.

[Sammy Spireite]

Zorro, on 15 May 2017 - 05:09 PM, said:

Anybody can shout and say "involve the police" etc., etc., but for every hired thug there is, there are another 500 who will pop up and take the shilling! Giving CCTV to the police or supplying a name and address or a Facebook page or connections he has, is not proof of who may be at the top of this disgusting threat - (and I'm not suggesting we have them). I can't imagine for 1 minute that the thug would sing to the police and let out who paid him. There are a lot more similar thugs who would pick up the mantle if arrests were made. Fortunately there are more fans than season ticket holders.

I would just like to add that whoever it is, they are no more than a coward for even going down the route of hiring thugs.

Why do we have to live in a society like this? I will continue to value honesty and trust.

Z

Zorro

In your experience, would such a 'hired good' be more or less likely to cooperate and reveal his 'employer' with police involvement or if a busload of Chesterfield supporters paid him a visit and turned up on HIS doorstep??

[Zorro]

Sammy Spireite, on 22 May 2017 - 08:34 AM, said:

Zorro

In your experience, would such a 'hired good' be more or less likely to cooperate and reveal his 'employer' with police involvement or if a busload of Chesterfield supporters paid him a visit and turned up on HIS doorstep??

Sammy, the private investigators have done a fantastic job in tracking the 'hired goon' down and have passed on his details to the police. The police may think they have enough to interview him and charge him with an offence, but let's take it a step further. Do I think he will reveal his paymaster? No I don't, do I think there would be further repercussions? Yes I would. Would a busload of Chesterfield supporters turning up at his home or place of work achieve anything? No it wouldn't, and it would make us to be no different to the scum who is hiding behind the thugs. This is not some type of 'normal' hired thug that has paid F2 a visit, these guys have connections to serious links of organisations that shouldn't be messed with. The location of this thug is reported to have 1 of the highest gun crime rates for a city. He will not be alone and he and his associates have no respect for law & order.

It is disgusting to think that something related to our club and for posts that have appeared on BB has resulted in this episode of events. People think Darren Brown was bad but he was just a petty thief & con man compared to what we are up against.

There is only 1 solution and that is for someone to come along and buy the club. We need a new start and a complete break from anyone & everything that surrounds CFC. It's a complete guessing game to know who is behind the thug but can be narrowed down to a few individuals.

I respect anyone who decides notapenny more but I have no problems either with those who renew their season tickets as I have also renewed. It will not help CFC to stifle money, I would also guess that there will not be enough money going in to pay for the running of the club so we with be in a catch 22 situation with DA having to keep loaning more money into the club through shortfalls in cash flow. If people think that any of next seasons cash will end up in DA's pockets then I'm afraid you may be wrong. There are a lot of people employed by CFC and they need paying. Nobody knows DA's end game but I doubt that he would allow the club to fold. Possibly his gambling licence could be affected if we went into liquidation so for that reason I would think the club is safe. However the club would de-value further if we were to lose our football league status, so I would like to think that there will be a strong possibility of the team doing well next season. After this weekend I conclude that I hate gardening so I will look forward to the start of the season & do what I have always done on a Saturday for 55 years.

Z

[Nitrous Oxide]

Very interesting post Z. Just what have we become.

[Westbars Spireite]

Sammy Spireite, on 22 May 2017 - 08:34 AM, said:

Zorro

In your experience, would such a 'hired good' be more or less likely to cooperate and reveal his 'employer' with police involvement or if a busload of Chesterfield supporters paid him a visit and turned up on HIS doorstep??

What's the name of this individual?

[dim view]

Zorro, on 22 May 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

Sammy, the private investigators have done a fantastic job in tracking the 'hired goon' down and have passed on his details to the police. The police may think they have enough to interview him and charge him with an offence, but let's take it a step further. Do I think he will reveal his paymaster? No I don't, do I think there would be further repercussions? Yes I would. Would a busload of Chesterfield supporters turning up at his home or place of work achieve anything? No it wouldn't...

To say nowt of the fact that it's illegal.
Incitement, harassment, maybe threatening behaviour, or even affray according to she who must be obeyed.

[Zorro]

dim view, on 22 May 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

To say nowt of the fact that it's illegal.
Incitement, harassment, maybe threatening behaviour, or even affray according to she who must be obeyed.

If I was still in the force Dim, I would be going for 'menacing', it carries a longer period at Her Majesty's Pleasure but slightly harder to get the conviction. Threatening behaviour is the easy option and suspended sentences can be given out. The safety of the supporters is more important in this case than anything else.

It will all go away once we have a new owner of CFC and we can clean out the cupboards.

Z

[Wooden Spoon]

Zorro said:

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If I was still in the force Dim, I would be going for 'menacing', it carries a longer period at Her Majesty's Pleasure but slightly harder to get the conviction. Threatening behaviour is the easy option and suspended sentences can be given out. The safety of the supporters is more important in this case than anything else.

It will all go away once we have a new owner of CFC and we can clean out the cupboards.

Z

That may depend on who a new owner is.


I don't have any faith that a new owner will be "selected" in favour ofCFC interests over the interests of the owners bank balance.

[clarevoyant.]

So having had a 2 week sabbatical and not having much time to read everything before I'm out of internet, would I be right in assuming there's been no dramatic changes?

[Sammy Spireite]

Out of interest, did anyone pop along to FBT's open trials in Dronfield on Sunday?

If so, I'm told you would have seen both Chris Turner and Liam Sutcliffe involved....

#shakeshead

[warfey is a spireite]

Westbars Spireite, on 22 May 2017 - 12:12 PM, said:

What's the name of this individual?

Cutthroat bill aghh

[Skywalker]

Sammy Spireite, on 23 May 2017 - 01:21 PM, said:

Out of interest, did anyone pop along to FBT's open trials in Dronfield on Sunday?

If so, I'm told you would have seen both Chris Turner and Liam Sutcliffe involved....

#shakeshead

Hopefully no-one popped along (kids included)

[dim view]

Sammy Spireite, on 23 May 2017 - 01:21 PM, said:

Out of interest, did anyone pop along to FBT's open trials in Dronfield on Sunday?

If so, I'm told you would have seen both Chris Turner and Liam Sutcliffe involved....

#shakeshead

You'd have thought Turner and Sutcliffe would be the world's worst enemies after what Ashley told fans. And yet here they are picnicking together in Dronfield park.

This post has been edited by dim view: 23 May 2017 - 05:16 PM

[moondog]

Just heard that the Sheffield & District Junior Football League sponsored by the club for five years just last year now have new sponsors First Bus South Yorkshire

Take a look at SDJSFL (@SDJSFL): https://twitter.com/SDJSFL?s=09

https://www.chesterf...ue-partnership/

[Looker-on]

This club and five-year plans!

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

dim view, on 23 May 2017 - 05:16 PM, said:

You'd have thought Turner and Sutcliffe would be the world's worst enemies after what Ashley told fans. And yet here they are picnicking together in Dronfield park.

I just find it sickening that individuals can pursue an endeavour, in large part funded by other people's money, behave in the most morally bankrupt manner, crash the business leaving innocent parents, employees, suppliers and contractors out of pocket then just carry on as if nowt's really happened.

Doesn't say much for 'FBT' that they allow folk like Sutcliffe to represent them, either.

Perhaps a group of those ill-used by CFCFDS ought to picket the next session warning folk what might happen to any cash they hand over...

[Exharboroughspireite]

Zorro, on 22 May 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

Sammy, the private investigators have done a fantastic job in tracking the 'hired goon' down and have passed on his details to the police. The police may think they have enough to interview him and charge him with an offence, but let's take it a step further. Do I think he will reveal his paymaster? No I don't, do I think there would be further repercussions? Yes I would. Would a busload of Chesterfield supporters turning up at his home or place of work achieve anything? No it wouldn't, and it would make us to be no different to the scum who is hiding behind the thugs. This is not some type of 'normal' hired thug that has paid F2 a visit, these guys have connections to serious links of organisations that shouldn't be messed with. The location of this thug is reported to have 1 of the highest gun crime rates for a city. He will not be alone and he and his associates have no respect for law & order.

It is disgusting to think that something related to our club and for posts that have appeared on BB has resulted in this episode of events. People think Darren Brown was bad but he was just a petty thief & con man compared to what we are up against.

There is only 1 solution and that is for someone to come along and buy the club. We need a new start and a complete break from anyone & everything that surrounds CFC. It's a complete guessing game to know who is behind the thug but can be narrowed down to a few individuals.

I respect anyone who decides notapenny more but I have no problems either with those who renew their season tickets as I have also renewed. It will not help CFC to stifle money, I would also guess that there will not be enough money going in to pay for the running of the club so we with be in a catch 22 situation with DA having to keep loaning more money into the club through shortfalls in cash flow. If people think that any of next seasons cash will end up in DA's pockets then I'm afraid you may be wrong. There are a lot of people employed by CFC and they need paying. Nobody knows DA's end game but I doubt that he would allow the club to fold. Possibly his gambling licence could be affected if we went into liquidation so for that reason I would think the club is safe. However the club would de-value further if we were to lose our football league status, so I would like to think that there will be a strong possibility of the team doing well next season. After this weekend I conclude that I hate gardening so I will look forward to the start of the season & do what I have always done on a Saturday for 55 years.

Z

One of the most sensible posts I have read on here for years. Have a green one on me.

[Tha Knows...]

Zorro, on 22 May 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

Sammy, the private investigators have done a fantastic job in tracking the 'hired goon' down and have passed on his details to the police. The police may think they have enough to interview him and charge him with an offence, but let's take it a step further. Do I think he will reveal his paymaster? No I don't, do I think there would be further repercussions? Yes I would. Would a busload of Chesterfield supporters turning up at his home or place of work achieve anything? No it wouldn't, and it would make us to be no different to the scum who is hiding behind the thugs. This is not some type of 'normal' hired thug that has paid F2 a visit, these guys have connections to serious links of organisations that shouldn't be messed with. The location of this thug is reported to have 1 of the highest gun crime rates for a city. He will not be alone and he and his associates have no respect for law & order.

It is disgusting to think that something related to our club and for posts that have appeared on BB has resulted in this episode of events. People think Darren Brown was bad but he was just a petty thief & con man compared to what we are up against.

There is only 1 solution and that is for someone to come along and buy the club. We need a new start and a complete break from anyone & everything that surrounds CFC. It's a complete guessing game to know who is behind the thug but can be narrowed down to a few individuals.

I respect anyone who decides notapenny more but I have no problems either with those who renew their season tickets as I have also renewed. It will not help CFC to stifle money, I would also guess that there will not be enough money going in to pay for the running of the club so we with be in a catch 22 situation with DA having to keep loaning more money into the club through shortfalls in cash flow. If people think that any of next seasons cash will end up in DA's pockets then I'm afraid you may be wrong. There are a lot of people employed by CFC and they need paying. Nobody knows DA's end game but I doubt that he would allow the club to fold. Possibly his gambling licence could be affected if we went into liquidation so for that reason I would think the club is safe. However the club would de-value further if we were to lose our football league status, so I would like to think that there will be a strong possibility of the team doing well next season. After this weekend I conclude that I hate gardening so I will look forward to the start of the season & do what I have always done on a Saturday for 55 years.

Z

I understand there were what might be called "minders" at some home games last season.

[Tha Knows...]

Zorro, on 22 May 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

Sammy, the private investigators have done a fantastic job in tracking the 'hired goon' down and have passed on his details to the police. The police may think they have enough to interview him and charge him with an offence, but let's take it a step further. Do I think he will reveal his paymaster? No I don't, do I think there would be further repercussions? Yes I would. Would a busload of Chesterfield supporters turning up at his home or place of work achieve anything? No it wouldn't, and it would make us to be no different to the scum who is hiding behind the thugs. This is not some type of 'normal' hired thug that has paid F2 a visit, these guys have connections to serious links of organisations that shouldn't be messed with. The location of this thug is reported to have 1 of the highest gun crime rates for a city. He will not be alone and he and his associates have no respect for law & order.

It is disgusting to think that something related to our club and for posts that have appeared on BB has resulted in this episode of events. People think Darren Brown was bad but he was just a petty thief & con man compared to what we are up against.

There is only 1 solution and that is for someone to come along and buy the club. We need a new start and a complete break from anyone & everything that surrounds CFC. It's a complete guessing game to know who is behind the thug but can be narrowed down to a few individuals.

I respect anyone who decides notapenny more but I have no problems either with those who renew their season tickets as I have also renewed. It will not help CFC to stifle money, I would also guess that there will not be enough money going in to pay for the running of the club so we with be in a catch 22 situation with DA having to keep loaning more money into the club through shortfalls in cash flow. If people think that any of next seasons cash will end up in DA's pockets then I'm afraid you may be wrong. There are a lot of people employed by CFC and they need paying. Nobody knows DA's end game but I doubt that he would allow the club to fold. Possibly his gambling licence could be affected if we went into liquidation so for that reason I would think the club is safe. However the club would de-value further if we were to lose our football league status, so I would like to think that there will be a strong possibility of the team doing well next season. After this weekend I conclude that I hate gardening so I will look forward to the start of the season & do what I have always done on a Saturday for 55 years.

Z

Agree that the solution is for someone to buy the club. Think I read that AC has indicated it will be 2 years before that happens. If I got that right has he explained why it might be 2 years?