[Exharboroughspireite]

Spireite-Karl, on 06 May 2017 - 04:18 PM, said:

You can always tell whose fault it really is when it's always somebody else's fault.

He will probably just claim that somebody somewhere neglected to tell him about it..... which therefore doesn't make it his fault.... which in turn means we have to stop picking on him and be thankful of all the great things he has done for us. Hoorah for Ashley!

[pmb2016]

spireitenag, on 06 May 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

No doubt as per recent times he'll be blaming Chris Turner.

Funny how John Croot (in Liam suitcliffes words - co -founder of the Development school ) seems to have had no heat other this from start to finish and is costing the club monthly with a charity that has had to get a large loan to keep operating.

[For your eyes only]

moondog, on 02 May 2017 - 03:20 PM, said:

Catalyst4Soccer is the agency

http://mobile.cheste...ll-2593604.aspx

This article totally contradicts the notion presented by Turner that he was a development school player although I do recall at one point later on they sought to claim that

Just an update to this I know Jake Orrell couldn't be reached for comment by the DT, however after speaking to him myself I can confirm Jake was offered a contract late May and never trained with the DC. He trained with the first team everyday and had no dealings with or matches with the development school at all.

[dim view]

For your eyes only, on 08 May 2017 - 08:21 AM, said:

Just an update to this I know Jake Orrell couldn't be reached for comment by the DT, however after speaking to him myself I can confirm Jake was offered a contract late May and never trained with the DC. He trained with the first team everyday and had no dealings with or matches with the development school at all.

Have you got any information about the status of Keiller-Dunn?

[For your eyes only]

dim view, on 08 May 2017 - 08:27 AM, said:

Have you got any information about the status of Keiller-Dunn?

I can confirm he was took on as a youth team player but paid by the DC, he resided in the village as such, for free. He did train once or twice with the development school but felt he wanted more so asked to leave. He was then offered youth team training and games and was paid weekly. Sometimes.

[Siberian Spireite]

pmb2016, on 08 May 2017 - 07:01 AM, said:

Funny how John Croot (in Liam suitcliffes words - co -founder of the Development school ) seems to have had no heat other this from start to finish and is costing the club monthly with a charity that has had to get a large loan to keep operating.

The penny just dropped as to what your initials stand for. I honestly do not know if this is Bullocks or not.

[Westbars Spireite]

For your eyes only, on 08 May 2017 - 08:21 AM, said:

Just an update to this I know Jake Orrell couldn't be reached for comment by the DT, however after speaking to him myself I can confirm Jake was offered a contract late May and never trained with the DC. He trained with the first team everyday and had no dealings with or matches with the development school at all.

What were they paying him for?

[dim view]

Westbars Spireite, on 08 May 2017 - 12:59 PM, said:

What were they paying him for?

Ashley hasn't been able to get to the bottom of that despite extensive research. I think the answer is that they paid him for turning out for CFC as they are nice guys and CFC forgot.

[For your eyes only]

Westbars Spireite, on 08 May 2017 - 12:59 PM, said:

What were they paying him for?

Even he doesn't know!

[For your eyes only]

Westbars Spireite, on 08 May 2017 - 12:59 PM, said:

What were they paying him for?

mind you, thinking about it WB you could ask the same question about many other things CFCFDS were paying for that were unrelated to the business.

[pmb2016]

http://www.spireites...-talent-centre/

Sounds very familier, and same co founder ?

[valemadness]

pmb2016, on 11 May 2017 - 01:18 PM, said:

http://www.spireites...-talent-centre/

Sounds very familier, and same co founder ?

Paul, John Croot had nothing to do with the development centre across the road apart from 1 project, which is a big stretch even from you to being co-founder

[Looker-on]

valemadness, on 11 May 2017 - 01:21 PM, said:

Paul, John Croot had nothing to do with the development centre across the road apart from 1 project, which is a big stretch even from you to being co-founder

Nope; I've been up and down this article:

http://www.chesterfi...hed-458337.aspx

and I can't see the word "Croot" anywhere.

[Les Ashmore]

Looker-on, on 11 May 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

Nope; I've been up and down this article:

http://www.chesterfi...hed-458337.aspx

and I can't see the word "Croot" anywhere.

Look Here and you can hear it then

[CFC_GAV]

Les Ashmore, on 12 May 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

Look Here and you can hear it then

There's a difference between giving someone help and being a co founder of a business

[azul]

Les Ashmore, on 12 May 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

Look Here and you can hear it then

How embarrassing, he does seem to be well and truly implicated.

It also demonstates how integrated the whole venture was with CFC.

[Les Ashmore]

CFC_GAV, on 12 May 2017 - 09:14 AM, said:

There's a difference between giving someone help and being a co founder of a business

Ah so the difference is in the words, I see, So in that case it was the idea of two people only, Liam Sutcliffe and Chris Turner, would I be right?

[Les Ashmore]

I think personally what would and is worrying me is that the trust is already losing a very large amount of money which is owed to CFC, Now we have the start of another "Academy" governed / Funded by the Trust, So basically CFC have another debt to cover, or am I being melodramatic?

[Sammy Spireite]

Given the failures over the road, I'd guess the new set up gives the club far more direct control over the venture, given the Trust is totally at the mercy of the club and its stakeholders.

I'd imagine this was also the reasoning to keep in 'in-house' to a degree rather than allow 'an outsider' set up a separate venture, despite his self-confessed expertise in this area.

[Les Ashmore]

Sammy Spireite, on 12 May 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

Given the failures over the road, I'd guess the new set up gives the club far more direct control over the venture, given the Trust is totally at the mercy of the club and its stakeholders.

I'd imagine this was also the reasoning to keep in 'in-house' to a degree rather than allow 'an outsider' set up a separate venture, despite his self-confessed expertise in this area.

But correct me if I am wrong Sammy, The Club has zero control over the trust or it's activities, Hence the large debt owed to the Club by the trust.
and wasn't an "Outsider" ie SC pictured on the top table when the new academy was announced?

This post has been edited by Les Ashmore: 12 May 2017 - 10:02 AM