[ELTON 2020]

Bluekent, on 14 April 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

Agreed. Can't believe people see anything good in him. Dire.

A little trip on to Southend forum and very measured comments including "Chesterfield are the worst team I've seen for a long long time etc..."
This is thee worst team. Today was appalling - and that's not said lightly. Kristian Dennis is Conference North imo. Simons is Northern premiere - a truly abysmal player. Demeo maybe conference North; McGuire Conference - clueless, Reece Mitchell - Conference; Gardner League 2 , Donohue lower league 2.

That was truly unacceptable today and players should be ashamed. Def one of the worst performances I've seen - Southend could have had 6.

[Mr Mercury]

Bowzer spirey, on 14 April 2017 - 03:29 PM, said:

Just wondered if this will go down as the worst season in the clubs history, and the worst set of players.

Pretty much, coupled with the idiots in charge it's been disgraceful!

[Toddhopper.]

Tylerdurdencfc, on 14 April 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

Mushroom ' A Chesterfield FC fan, who puts up with their football club being run in a disgraceful manner, by people who don't care about the club or fans and is happy to sit back do nothing plod along accepting it whilst criticising others for not being a true fan'.

Urban dictionary definition

You are not describing me even just a little bit.
I'm as p*ssed off with the current situation as anyone else. And what's this 'true fan' bullsh*t?

[whittman]

hewittfan, on 14 April 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

The gulf in class between the two sides today was astonishing when you think that, although Southend have had a decent season, they're only just on the edge of the play-offs.

It was going to be a tough enough job as it was to win the match with 11 v 11 and although they had started

a bit brighter there was not a lot in it in the early stages

As soon as the referee sent off Donahue however he might as well have blown the whistle for full time and

saved us from further punishment

How is it that for the majority of the home matches one has the impression
that the referee has either come on the away teams coach to the match or wants a lift on it after?

today one had the impression that the referee could not wait to wave a card in our direction for tackles but

let their similar tackles escape with just a telling off?

And as for the sliding tackle attempt from Jones just after he had been booked and the southend player fell over when the attempted tackle was a couple off yards away from him then the southend player should have been booked for diving

The clueless linesman who was no more than 15 yards away from the incident decided to put his flag up and wave for a foul to southend after the equally cluless referee blew for a foul

If he knew the game he should have had the courage to wave his flag and tell the referee that the southend player had dived in a blatant attempt to get Jones sent off

That incident summed up the officials performance today in the match

Imo the majority of the officials today might know the laws of the game backwards but do not know how the game is played

This post has been edited by whittman: 14 April 2017 - 05:26 PM

[Madorama]

Elton John 1866, on 14 April 2017 - 05:21 PM, said:

A little trip on to Southend forum and very measured comments including "Chesterfield are the worst team I've seen for a long long time etc..."
This is thee worst team. Today was appalling - and that's not said lightly. Kristian Dennis is Conference North imo. Simons is Northern premiere - a truly abysmal player. Demeo maybe conference North; McGuire Conference - clueless, Reece Mitchell - Conference; Gardner League 2 , Donohue lower league 2.

That was truly unacceptable today and players should be ashamed. Def one of the worst performances I've seen - Southend could have had 6.

[Westbars Spireite]

Toddhopper., on 14 April 2017 - 04:40 PM, said:

I misunderstood nothing.

OK. You were just wrong then.

[Madorama]

Elton John 1866, on 14 April 2017 - 05:21 PM, said:

A little trip on to Southend forum and very measured comments including "Chesterfield are the worst team I've seen for a long long time etc..."
This is thee worst team. Today was appalling - and that's not said lightly. Kristian Dennis is Conference North imo. Simons is Northern premiere - a truly abysmal player. Demeo maybe conference North; McGuire Conference - clueless, Reece Mitchell - Conference; Gardner League 2 , Donohue lower league 2.

That was truly unacceptable today and players should be ashamed. Def one of the worst performances I've seen - Southend could have had 6.

Why didn't they?

[Tylerdurdencfc]

Toddhopper., on 14 April 2017 - 05:23 PM, said:

You are not describing me even just a little bit.
I'm as p*ssed off with the current situation as anyone else. And what's this 'true fan' bullsh*t?

Not implying you're a mushroom I just used your post to reply to to indicate there are mushrooms that sit back and go along happily with the clubs actions

[Valley Blues]

Toddhopper., on 14 April 2017 - 04:05 PM, said:

f off and support Mansfield then you tw*t. The people running the club maybe doing a sh*t job but surely we all still support Chesterfield Football Club. Any who don't, as I say F Off.

Will you continue to fall in line and turn up to watch that dross week in, week out moving forward?

I read all this garbage about loyalty to our club and anyone with the audacity to criticise is not a true Spireite. Well unfortunately we don't have to do as we're told.

I get enjoyment out of the game of football. Chesterfield will always be my team and nothing can change that but I'm not going to put my sheep costume on and follow them round the country bulling myself up as a 'true Spireite' when they're serving this kind of dross up. It's not football, not the game I enjoy to play and watch.

This blind following of Chesterfield, just because they're Chesterfield and I'm a 'proper fan' is getting a bit tiresome.

[tomjoad]

Ok here goes..

Watched Chesterfield since the mid sixties, missed a handful of home games in 50 years.

Walked out early a couple of times and after 60 odd minutes today, and for the first time ever I'm not bothered.

I cant believe whats happening to our club or begin to wonder how to change it.

Thanks Mr Allen and co you have finally alienated me (yes and a lot more)

Still you DONT CARE DO YOU! and before long nobody else will.

Goodnight.

[spireitewolf]

I never known such a season in 60 yearI have gone out early sometimes but never so often this season Today went at 75 mins Ref was shocking We were pathetic

<div>Thanks Mr Allen&nbsp;</div>

This post has been edited by spireitewolf: 14 April 2017 - 08:01 PM

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

The 1999/2000 season set new lows, on and off the pitch.

The dictatorial, sometimes even barmy Norton Lea had imposed a more than thirty percent rise in ticket prices, removed the family stand concessions and awarded the previously successful yet increasingly negative John Duncan a new contract.

And all after the exit of popular players whilst moves towards a modern stadium had been thwarted by his intransigence.

As a result the first fixture, a predictably dull home defeat to Colchester United, saw a Mansfield size crowd.

We then enjoyed a brief respite, winning a couple or three games, only for fans favourites Paul Holland and Billy Mercer to be sold for what many believed was less than their true worth.

A chairman cashing-in? Surely not.

The excellent Spireites Independent Fans Association - SIFA - pursued a dialogue with the then Board before organising peaceful protests when rebuffed. However the thousands staying away had far more impact.

Meanwhile the team embarked upon a run of no less than twenty three games without a win. Infact I remember walking into Saltergate one afternoon to see us go one down as I entered the arena, two down before I'd taken my usual position, then three down before I'd leaned on the barrier. Add that to a humiliating FA Cup exit at home to Enfield and suffice to say it was on a par with much of what we've seen this season.

Week after week, defeat after defeat, excuse after excuse. And the fact our top scorer - Jason Lee - was actually playing for Peterborough whilst we paid a sizeable proportion of his wages tells you what Carson's currently delivering is hardly original.

I guess the big difference was, however, that when Duncan was eventually sacked - albeit by the crook Lea handed the Club over to - his replacement, Nicky Law, took a side that'd forgotten how to attack, score goals and even play proper football and turned the same group of players into one that did all three with aplomb.

Unlike Gary Caldwell who, well, we know, don't we...

Oh, and off-field scandals were in the future rather than the past and present.

The new stadium was supposed to be an end to all this, a new beginning which would see CFC pursue it's potential and never again be forced to endure humiliating relegations to the lowest league.

I suppose it takes a special sort of incompetence - or worse - to throw the 'bounce' initially achieved on Sheff Road down the same Saltergate-esque sh*t shoot.

This post has been edited by MDCCCLXVI: 14 April 2017 - 09:37 PM

[moondog]

MDCCCLXVI, on 14 April 2017 - 09:33 PM, said:

The 1999/2000 season set new lows, on and off the pitch.

The dictatorial, sometimes even barmy Norton Lea had imposed a more than thirty percent rise in ticket prices, removed the family stand concessions and awarded the previously successful yet increasingly negative John Duncan a new contract.

And all after the exit of popular players whilst moves towards a modern stadium had been thwarted by his intransigence.

As a result the first fixture, a predictably dull home defeat to Colchester United, saw a Mansfield size crowd.

We then enjoyed a brief respite, winning a couple or three games, only for fans favourites Paul Holland and Billy Mercer to be sold for what many believed was less than their true worth.

A chairman cashing-in? Surely not.

The excellent Spireites Independent Fans Association - SIFA - pursued a dialogue with the then Board before organising peaceful protests when rebuffed. However the thousands staying away had far more impact.

Meanwhile the team embarked upon a run of no less than twenty three games without a win. Infact I remember walking into Saltergate one afternoon to see us go one down as I entered the arena, two down before I'd taken my usual position, then three down before I'd leaned on the barrier. Add that to a humiliating FA Cup exit at home to Enfield and suffice to say it was on a par with much of what we've seen this season.

Week after week, defeat after defeat, excuse after excuse. And the fact our top scorer - Jason Lee - was actually playing for Peterborough whilst we paid a sizeable proportion of his wages tells you what Carson's currently delivering is hardly original.

I guess the big difference was, however, that when Duncan was eventually sacked - albeit by the crook Lea handed the Club over to - his replacement, Nicky Law, took a side that'd forgotten how to attack, score goals and even play proper football and turned the same group of players into one that did all three with aplomb.

Unlike Gary Caldwell who, well, we know, don't we...

Oh, and off-field scandals were in the future rather than the past and present.

The new stadium was supposed to be an end to all this, a new beginning which would see CFC pursue it's potential and never again be forced to endure humiliating relegations to the lowest league.

I guess it takes a special sort of incompetence - or worse - to throw the 'bounce' initially achieved on Sheff Road down the same Saltergate-esque sh*t shoot.

A great summary and trip down memory lane Chris. I'd wouldn't have described Nicky Law doing it with same set of players though, he made a number of key signings in the 2001/01 close season that made all the difference

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

moondog, on 14 April 2017 - 09:41 PM, said:

A great summary and trip down memory lane Chris. I'd wouldn't have described Nicky Law doing it with same set of players though, he made a number of key signings in the 2001/01 close season that made all the difference

I was referring to the almost overnight turnaround witnessed towards the end of the relegation season, 'M'.

From memory he selected such as Roger Willis, who'd been pretty much sidelined by Duncan, and actually allowed the players to express themselves.

And though we were too far behind to escape the drop we at least, finally, had something to cheer about.

[moondog]

MDCCCLXVI, on 14 April 2017 - 09:46 PM, said:

I was referring to the almost overnight turnaround witnessed towards the end of the relegation season, 'M'.

From memory he selected such as Roger Willis, who'd been pretty much sidelined by Duncan, and actually allowed the players to express themselves.

And though we were too far behind to escape the drop we at least, finally, had something to cheer about.

Sorry my mistake, yes you are right

[jack bauer]

MDCCCLXVI, on 14 April 2017 - 09:46 PM, said:

I was referring to the almost overnight turnaround witnessed towards the end of the relegation season, 'M'.

From memory he selected such as Roger Willis, who'd been pretty much sidelined by Duncan, and actually allowed the players to express themselves.

And though we were too far behind to escape the drop we at least, finally, had something to cheer about.

law gave us hope in relegation, as I have to say did hart some 10 years earlier, Caldwell on the other hand well.... only adds to my despair

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Mr Mercury, on 14 April 2017 - 05:23 PM, said:

Pretty much, coupled with the idiots in charge it's been disgraceful!

I keep thinking with how long we have been going there must have been a worse squad of players, but time passes and you forget just how bad things have been in the past. I think what we all can say though there has probably (Brown episode aside) when there has been such abject misery, disillusion and lack of hope for the future than there is currently. Everybody you talk to has just had enough of everything to do with the club. The season ticket renewals have gone in but god knows what we are letting ourselves in for next year

[Toddhopper.]

Valley Blues, on 14 April 2017 - 05:51 PM, said:

Will you continue to fall in line and turn up to watch that dross week in, week out moving forward?

I read all this garbage about loyalty to our club and anyone with the audacity to criticise is not a true Spireite. Well unfortunately we don't have to do as we're told.

I get enjoyment out of the game of football. Chesterfield will always be my team and nothing can change that but I'm not going to put my sheep costume on and follow them round the country bulling myself up as a 'true Spireite' when they're serving this kind of dross up. It's not football, not the game I enjoy to play and watch.

This blind following of Chesterfield, just because they're Chesterfield and I'm a 'proper fan' is getting a bit tiresome.

The point is you support Chesterfield Football Club. Call those in charge all you like, but leave the name of Chesterfield out of it. As so many of those who have negged me will tell you, the club is its fans, not those fly by nights who run the club. So when someone calls Chesterfield a rancid club I'm sure you can see why I would find it offensive.

Westbars Spireite, on 14 April 2017 - 05:31 PM, said:

OK. You were just wrong then.

Ok whatever.

[clarevoyant.]

whittman, on 14 April 2017 - 05:24 PM, said:

It was going to be a tough enough job as it was to win the match with 11 v 11 and although they had started

a bit brighter there was not a lot in it in the early stages

As soon as the referee sent off Donahue however he might as well have blown the whistle for full time and

saved us from further punishment

How is it that for the majority of the home matches one has the impression
that the referee has either come on the away teams coach to the match or wants a lift on it after?

today one had the impression that the referee could not wait to wave a card in our direction for tackles but

let their similar tackles escape with just a telling off?

And as for the sliding tackle attempt from Jones just after he had been booked and the southend player fell over when the attempted tackle was a couple off yards away from him then the southend player should have been booked for diving

The clueless linesman who was no more than 15 yards away from the incident decided to put his flag up and wave for a foul to southend after the equally cluless referee blew for a foul

If he knew the game he should have had the courage to wave his flag and tell the referee that the southend player had dived in a blatant attempt to get Jones sent off

That incident summed up the officials performance today in the match

Imo the majority of the officials today might know the laws of the game backwards but do not know how the game is played

Well said.

The following isn't a defence of our pathetic clueless performance but just an agreement with the above.
The first two cautions followed offences (seconds earlier) against us but not given, the one preceeding the Gardner caution had clearly incensed the town players instead of having a free kick at the edge of the box we were chasing the game.

Now it could be argued that if there hadn't been any dodgy challanges prior to the DD incident what looked red could have been a yellow.

In saying it initially looked a red my first thoughts was that I was thankful the incident was close to technical area allowing the rather rotund Southend "bag man" chance to get to the scene whilst the player was still alive. Oh hang on concidering all these rash challanges, how many times did said gentleman make an appearance? Did DD actually touch him. The well practiced training ground routine of surrounding the offender was well😬 policed by an easily influenced ref.

On returning to the bench when subed a concerned town fan enquired as to the state of Cox's leg he replied "just taking the p..s" but did he mean out of town or the ref?

The fact that the renowned ex Port Vale nutcase brian Horton infrequently appeared from the stands into the southend technical area may tell it's own story.

[dtp]

clarevoyant., on 15 April 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

Well said.

The following isn't a defence of our pathetic clueless performance but just an agreement with the above.
The first two cautions followed offences (seconds earlier) against us but not given, the one preceeding the Gardner caution had clearly incensed the town players instead of having a free kick at the edge of the box we were chasing the game.

Now it could be argued that if there hadn't been any dodgy challanges prior to the DD incident what looked red could have been a yellow.

In saying it initially looked a red my first thoughts was that I was thankful the incident was close to technical area allowing the rather rotund Southend "bag man" chance to get to the scene whilst the player was still alive. Oh hang on concidering all these rash challanges, how many times did said gentleman make an appearance? Did DD actually touch him. The well practiced training ground routine of surrounding the offender was well😬 policed by an easily influenced ref.

On returning to the bench when subed a concerned town fan enquired as to the state of Cox's leg he replied "just taking the p..s" but did he mean out of town or the ref?

The fact that the renowned ex Port Vale nutcase brian Horton infrequently appeared from the stands into the southend technical area may tell it's own story.

From where we were sat on the opposite side it appeared that the so-called injured party had no treatment and actually took the free-kick. If he had needed treatment he should have gone off the pitch and remained there until waved back on by the incompetent.