[Guest_freelander2_*]

From the director's report relating to the liquidation of CFC Football Development School Ltd:

"The decision was taken for the company to cease to trade on 31 January 2016 and CFC International Football Academy Limited took on the administration of the development school from this date. The company was later rebranded as FBT International Football Academy Limited."

[moondog]

Is that legal as they certainly traded?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

So Sutcliffe continued trading, presumably accepting money and obtaining credit despite deciding to wind the business up?

Isn't that fraudulent?

Or have I totally misinterpreted this...

[60s 70s Spireite]

moondog, on 04 April 2017 - 03:24 PM, said:

Is that legal as they certainly traded?

In a word - no.

Is there evidence available that it did indeed trade before 30 June 2016- eg purchase orders, cheques written out, receipts given out, marketing material?

[Jbspire]

Westbars Spireite, on 01 April 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

Just watched it.

His son's happy to stick the knife in

Shocking, I am CFO of a national charity and its stories like this that horrify me. There is new guidance this year stating that auditors must verify the claims made on the trustee report. For example if an organisation claims it has helped X amount of people then the auditor must validate this claim. A lot has been learnt in the sector following well documented recent events, changes have been made to ensure transparency and that can only be a good thing!

[moondog]

60s 70s Spireite, on 04 April 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

In a word - no.

Is there evidence available that it did indeed trade before 30 June 2016- eg purchase orders, cheques written out, receipts given out, marketing material?

There's this from a quick Google search

http://www.goprofoot...my-tuition-fee/

http://www.derbyshir...d-ppp-1-7932114

[The Black Triangle]

MDCCCLXVI, on 04 April 2017 - 03:52 PM, said:

So Sutcliffe continued trading, presumably accepting money and obtaining credit despite deciding to wind the business up?

Isn't that fraudulent?

Or have I totally misinterpreted this...

If it is would Turner be implicated as well? If he is, will he sing? Fingers crossed, and he implicates another dee dah

freelander2, on 04 April 2017 - 02:45 PM, said:

From the director's report relating to the liquidation of CFC Football Development School Ltd:

"The decision was taken for the company to cease to trade on 31 January 2016 and CFC International Football Academy Limited took on the administration of the development school from this date. The company was later rebranded as FBT International Football Academy Limited."

Can you translate into layman terms what the heck you guys are talking about with dates here?

[moondog]

The Black Triangle, on 04 April 2017 - 04:54 PM, said:

If it is would Turner be implicated as well? If he is, will he sing? Fingers crossed, and he implicates another dee dah

Turner was strongly indicating back in May that the international academy was trading

http://www.chesterfi...c_00001269.html

[Guest_freelander2_*]

60s 70s Spireite, on 04 April 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

In a word - no.

Is there evidence available that it did indeed trade before 30 June 2016- eg purchase orders, cheques written out, receipts given out, marketing material?

I'm 99.9% sure that all the staff who were employed by the old company (CFC Football Development School Ltd) were invited to reapply for their jobs during Dec 15 / Jan 16 to be part of the new company. I will check that and see if there is documentation to support the same.

What we do know is the emails that Sutcliffe's was sending months before 30/06/16 included the following footnote:

"Please note: Our accounts/Finance Department are separate to that of Chesterfield FC. Any individual, company or entity that CFC Football Development School Limited or CFC International Academy Ltd has a financial relationship must contact by email: [email protected] in the first instance."

[Guest_freelander2_*]

The Black Triangle, on 04 April 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

Can you translate into layman terms what the heck you guys are talking about with dates here?

What the directors are saying is that from 01/02/16 to 30/06/16 neither the old company, CFC Football Development School Ltd or the new company, FBT International Football Academy Ltd (CFC International Football Academy Ltd) traded!

[warfey is a spireite]

freelander2, on 04 April 2017 - 05:45 PM, said:

What the directors are saying is that from 01/02/16 to 30/06/16 neither the old company, CFC Football Development School Ltd or the new company, FBT International Football Academy Ltd (CFC International Football Academy Ltd) traded!

ure finding out lots is going to get old bill or fa in

[Guest_freelander2_*]

60s 70s Spireite, on 04 April 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

In a word - no.

Is there evidence available that it did indeed trade before 30 June 2016- eg purchase orders, cheques written out, receipts given out, marketing material?

I am now in receipt of screenshots showing payments covering wages for the period where both companies are said to have not traded!

[Mrhappy]

warfey is a spireite, on 04 April 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

ure finding out lots is going to get old bill or fa in

They should have been involved a heck of a long time ago pal.

[dim view]

freelander2, on 07 March 2017 - 02:41 PM, said:

Booth & Co have confirmed this afternoon that it is impossible to refute the former employee's claim.

Although it is highly unlikely to result in monies being repaid, it was more a point of principle.

You know about these things....
Will Booth and Co know about your latest research, the FBT Director's Report? If not, perhaps we should tell them?

[Guest_freelander2_*]

F.A.O John Croot & Peter Whiteley,

It is my understanding that CFC Football Development School Ltd / CFC International Football Academy Ltd (FBT International Football Academy Ltd) hire / hired the classroom facilities in the East Stand. Please can you confirm if either company hired the facilities during the period 01/02/16 to 30/06/16?

[Eastander]

freelander2, on 04 April 2017 - 07:45 PM, said:

F.A.O John Croot & Peter Whiteley,

It is my understanding that CFC Football Development School Ltd / CFC International Football Academy Ltd (FBT International Football Academy Ltd) hire / hired the classroom facilities in the East Stand. Please can you confirm if either company hired the facilities during the period 01/02/16 to 30/06/16?

Are you related to Woodward or Bernstein by any chance ?

[moondog]

freelander2, on 04 April 2017 - 07:39 PM, said:

I am now in receipt of screenshots showing payments covering wages for the period where both companies are said to have not traded!

Do they include payments to AC'S son ?

[Westbars Spireite]

moondog, on 04 April 2017 - 09:39 PM, said:

Do they include payments to AC'S son ?

I hope so.

[moondog]

Westbars Spireite, on 04 April 2017 - 09:44 PM, said:

I hope so.

I think he's been working for them since back then

[Guest_freelander2_*]

moondog, on 04 April 2017 - 09:39 PM, said:

Do they include payments to AC'S son ?

It's funny you should mention AC's son, I am sure his lad was coaching March/April 2016, perhaps even before that. Maybe AC could ask his son who he was working for given that one company supposedly ceased trading on 31/01/16 and the other was supposedly dormant!