[DIFH]

MDCCCLXVI, on 23 January 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

Well for starters you'd think any further sources of credit would dwindle to zero.

Which raises questions over why AC and CT would loan someone even they themselves described as deceitful tens of thousands.

We then have to wonder why 'FBT' would tolerate someone with Sutcliffe's record.

Once again the suspicious can't be blamed for thinking Sutcliffe starting a new business - the 'International Academy' - when there was no real need suggests he's intended winding-up the original enterprise for quite some time.

Looks like AC and CT were dupped then to me.

[Stockholm Spireite]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 23 January 2017 - 05:03 PM, said:

Looks like AC and CT were dupped then to me.

That in itself raises questions about their own intelligence and suitability to hold their post.

[Wooden Spoon]

Stockholm Spireite said:

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That in itself raises questions about their own intelligence and suitability to hold their post.

I would suggest it raises questions not about their suitability but the motives behind the unstinting support this organisation has received, and continues to receive.

Forget the idiot Turner, he's a sap, a patsy. He couldn't run rings around a packet of hula hoops without tripping up over his own feet. He's an imbecile who is there to act as the clubs aunt Sally. Throw tomatoes at this idiot while we pull your pants down without you noticing.



Carson is the man. He is Allens man. What motive would the regime, Ie, Dave Allen, have for not only tolerating, but supporting both institutionally and financially?


Do they get a cut, or first refusal on registration on any players? Are they banking on finding a player from China/Africa/ Asia and the potential fee for a song or a drogba mean anything is tolerated because of greed?

[ConcernedParent]

calvin plummers socks, on 15 January 2017 - 09:42 PM, said:

That's one of the most disturbing things I've read on here.
That's criminal it really is.

£700 a month?!
WTF!!

Barnet host trials for a company called Football CV which are basically an open trial (Barnet just host it and nothing to do with them- other venues also host them). Loads of (professional) scouts go officially (not jokers like this Liam geezer). If your son is deemed good enough he will make it.

Avoid scams like the £700 (WTF!!!) one like the plague

Thanks, have taken a look at their website

[ConcernedParent]

freelander2, on 15 January 2017 - 08:58 PM, said:

Thank you.

How was GoPro brought into the equation and was there a cost associated with the trial?

We were notified by GoPro via email that he had impressed and Chesterfield wanted him to come for a trial the following weekend. There was a cost for the trial of £80.00, most of which I'm assuming went to GoPro.
At the time I didn't think that was too harsh, as rarely is anything free in life

[Sammy Spireite]

The Development Centre has a string of unsatisfied CCJ's lodged against it, totalling £20k+ with the latest once being issued last week (just under £6k). Add to that the repayment plans its said to have in place with some other debtors, it doesn't take a business degree to work out that without another huge injection of funds, its about to come crashing down.

And that's without any other major debts creeping* out of the woodwork.....

*for creeping read smashing out in a cloud of dust

[dim view]

MDCCCLXVI, on 23 January 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

Well for starters you'd think any further sources of credit would dwindle to zero.

Which raises questions over why AC and CT would loan someone even they themselves described as deceitful tens of thousands.

We then have to wonder why 'FBT' would tolerate someone with Sutcliffe's record.

Once again the suspicious can't be blamed for thinking Sutcliffe starting a new business - the 'International Academy' - when there was no real need suggests he's intended winding-up the original enterprise for quite some time.

So, is the original enterprise now dormant?

I wonder what has happened to their computers? Has Ashley got access to them?

[spireitenag]

dim view, on 27 January 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

So, is the original enterprise now dormant?

I wonder what has happened to their computers? Has Ashley got access to them?

Sold to the highest bidder ?

[Sammy Spireite]

dim view, on 27 January 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

I wonder what has happened to their computers?

Seized by the bailiffs?

Repossessed by the supplier for non-payment of bills??

[dim view]

Sammy Spireite, on 27 January 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

Seized by the bailiffs?

Repossessed by the supplier for non-payment of bills??

Seized by Turner and Carson? That should make huge inroads into the £60k they are owed.

[Mr Mercury]

dim view, on 27 January 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

So, is the original enterprise now dormant?

I wonder what has happened to their computers? Has Ashley got access to them?

Last seen being carried by a hooded figure running across the carparks?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Well if we're speculating about what might've happened to any computers, possibly even ones donated to the 'fake' academy by a friendly IT partner, I wouldn't trust a certain someone not to've flogged off a couple pocketing the cash whilst keeping the other for himself.

But of course there's absolutely no proof of that and it's just my suspicious and cynical nature talking...

[DIFH]

MDCCCLXVI, on 27 January 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

Well if we're speculating about what might've happened to any computers, possibly even ones donated to the 'fake' academy by a friendly IT partner, I wouldn't trust a certain someone not to've flogged off a couple pocketing the cash whilst keeping the other for himself.

But of course there's absolutely no proof of that and it's just my suspicious and cynical nature talking...

If that's the case you'very vivid imagination.

This post has been edited by Dave In Footie Heaven: 27 January 2017 - 03:58 PM

[spireitenag]

MDCCCLXVI, on 27 January 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

Well if we're speculating about what might've happened to any computers, possibly even ones donated to the 'fake' academy by a friendly IT partner, I wouldn't trust a certain someone not to've flogged off a couple pocketing the cash whilst keeping the other for himself.

But of course there's absolutely no proof of that and it's just my suspicious and cynical nature talking...

Great minds think alike.

[Mr Mercury]

spireitenag, on 27 January 2017 - 03:52 PM, said:

Great minds think alike.

Oh for a 4am knock at the door. Milkman of course..

[dim view]

MDCCCLXVI, on 23 January 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

Which raises questions over why AC and CT would loan someone even they themselves described as deceitful tens of thousands.

My guess is that the money has been used to pay DC debt to CFC.

How would it look if a company set up by CT went bust owing CFC money?

This post has been edited by dim view: 28 January 2017 - 04:36 PM

[Sammy Spireite]

dim view, on 28 January 2017 - 04:35 PM, said:

My guess is that the money has been used to pay DC debt to CFC.

Because they understood how bad it would have looked if the DC folded, owing the club a shed load of money?

If that was the case, and club money HAS been used to prop up the failing DC, especially given how tight money is this season, you can understand why they'd want to cover it up!!

[Guest_freelander2_*]

dim view, on 28 January 2017 - 04:35 PM, said:

My guess is that the money has been used to pay DC debt to CFC.

How would it look if a company set up by CT went bust owing CFC money?

If CFC Football Development School Ltd was liquidated, it will be interesting for two reasons:

1) A creditors list will be published detailing who is owed what, for example the amounts outstanding to AC & CT, etc.

2) The Liquidator's report which will detail why the business has failed. For the ex staff, parents, scholars and creditors, I suspect that could make for a very interesting read.

[Mr Mercury]

freelander2, on 29 January 2017 - 08:04 AM, said:

If CFC Football Development School Ltd was liquidated, it will be interesting for two reasons:

1) A creditors list will be published detailing who is owed what, for example the amounts outstanding to AC & CT, etc.

2) The Liquidator's report which will detail why the business has failed. For the ex staff, parents, scholars and creditors, I suspect that could make for a very interesting read.

Would that be published in the public domain?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

freelander2, on 29 January 2017 - 08:04 AM, said:

If CFC Football Development School Ltd was liquidated, it will be interesting for two reasons:

1) A creditors list will be published detailing who is owed what, for example the amounts outstanding to AC & CT, etc.

2) The Liquidator's report which will detail why the business has failed. For the ex staff, parents, scholars and creditors, I suspect that could make for a very interesting read.

But what'll be done about it?

When will those guilty of mismanagement, lies, deceit and scandal be held responsible?

Was the term 'zero tolerance' just another hollow platitude?

It's my belief that Ashley Carson is aware of and/or in a position to investigate allegations.

The time for words is over; it's now time for decisive action.