[antg]

That's what happens when you play him at right back

[danblue]

antg, on 27 December 2016 - 11:09 AM, said:

That's what happens when you play him at right back

....and on the wing. The lad is dog dirt. In fact, I'd prefer a dog dirt on the right hand side

[Waller is my hero]

jack bauer, on 26 December 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

the lad has obvious talent, but like many lower league players he often lacks the right decision and also lacks the consistency. he struggled to get a break through under cook. he has for me been disappointing this season after a good 2nd half to last season I was hoping he'd kick on but it hasn't really happened, is this due to what happened or didn't happen in the summer? maybe but his best way of getting a move out surely is to put it in for us week to week.

He was showing his potential as the season started & up to transfer deadline day.....he got the hump when we wouldn't sell for peanuts....his bottom lip has been dragging on the floor ever since.

[Martin63]

Mr Mercury, on 26 December 2016 - 09:02 PM, said:

I'm convinced he's got something lined up.

If he has a move lined up that would explain his recent performances. If not, and he is looking for a move in January ,surely he would be putting in 100% ?

[Mr Mercury]

Martin63, on 27 December 2016 - 11:54 AM, said:

If he has a move lined up that would explain his recent performances. If not, and he is looking for a move in January ,surely he would be putting in 100% ?

Complete guess work by me but ever since deadline day and the leaked transfer request and the botched denial he's been playing like he's been told...be patient son, January's not too far away, we'll be back then and look after you.

[clarevoyant.]

Mr Mercury, on 27 December 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:

Complete guess work by me but ever since deadline day and the leaked transfer request and the botched denial he's been playing like he's been told...be patient son, January's not too far away, we'll be back then and look after you.

If he was as crap and not bothered as the concensus on here would have you believe. DW and CM are very patient people

[Mr Mercury]

clarevoyant., on 27 December 2016 - 12:33 PM, said:

If he was as crap and not bothered as the concensus on here would have you believe. DW and CM are very patient people

I certainly don't think it's a case of not trying more of a case of "comfort".

[BigBlue]

To be fair there's no way you need a Boli in your team scratting round the relegation spots. Waste of a place. Stick him the Blunts team or someone similar and he will shine.

This post has been edited by BigBlue: 27 December 2016 - 03:39 PM

[NOFX]

Steady on he made the goal against Bolton. Had our two chances in the first half but did nothing second half. The other teams are aware of what he can do , so they mark him and try to make sure he doesn't gat a pass

[Spire-Heights]

Gboly, at best is average IMO. Most of the time he goes missing and doesn't show much effort. IF CFC would have got anywhere near 800k that would have been a day light robbery.

Average mostly, sometimes causes a problem when get be bothered.

[BigBlue]

He looks poor because he's in a poor team. The likes of him and O Shea would shine in a decent team. Let's face it Wilson doesn't even know his best formation or team. He will go higher to someone higher than us. He doesn't turn up enough in a team scrapping (I use that term losely as our lot don't seem to have a scrap in them) in a relagation battle.

[dtp]

BigBlue, on 27 December 2016 - 11:55 PM, said:

He looks poor because he's in a poor team. The likes of him and O Shea would shine in a decent team. Let's face it Wilson doesn't even know his best formation or team. He will go higher to someone higher than us. He doesn't turn up enough in a team scrapping (I use that term losely as our lot don't seem to have a scrap in them) in a relagation battle.

Wilson's best team might look a bit like -

Lee
McGinn, Evatt, Hird, Jones
Ariyibi, Martinez, Donohue, O'Shea
Evans, Wilkinson

Can you spot the problem?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

dtp, on 28 December 2016 - 09:48 AM, said:

Wilson's best team might look a bit like -

Lee
McGinn, Evatt, Hird, Jones
Ariyibi, Martinez, Donohue, O'Shea
Evans, Wilkinson

Can you spot the problem?

Again I'm wondering if our dearth of credible midfielders has seen Martinez's cache raised to unrealistic levels.

He's played just three games for us, which is only one less than his entire contribution the previous season.

And Donohue?

Done okay in an unfamiliar position, yet we've seen next to nothing of him in central midfield.

I take your point, 'dtp' - Wilson's never really been able to field a first choice starting eleven - just as I recognise it's a problem beyond his creation.

However I do feel the time has come to admit we've seen too many disorganised and defensive defeats from a side struggling past the hour mark.

[metallilad]

CFC91, on 26 December 2016 - 09:22 PM, said:

We can always hope. Don't need characters like his in the mess we are in

Your right. Absolutely spot on. But why does our manager insist on picking him? Even worse, why the hell does he insist on leaving him on the pitch when he strolls around without a care in the world.

[Valley Blues]

BigBlue, on 27 December 2016 - 11:55 PM, said:

He looks poor because he's in a poor team. The likes of him and O Shea would shine in a decent team. Let's face it Wilson doesn't even know his best formation or team. He will go higher to someone higher than us. He doesn't turn up enough in a team scrapping (I use that term losely as our lot don't seem to have a scrap in them) in a relagation battle.

Whether Wilson knows his best formation or not, he always plays Ariyibi in his 'best' position. I cannot recall Ariyibi playing out of position?

At Barnsley end of last season he looked excellent. He ran their full backs and got decent balls into the box. He caused major problems for a side who got promoted. Problem is I've not seen him anything other than poor since that game. Against Bolton he had a couple of opportunities where the CH's came over to cover their full backs yet he failed to even attempt to take them on. It was crying out for him to run at the giant, lumbering CH out of position but he played a ball inside into a crowded midfield. Dire decision making is unlikely to improve whether he plays for us, Blunts or Barcelona.

[Spireite-Karl]

Valley Blues, on 28 December 2016 - 11:07 AM, said:

Whether Wilson knows his best formation or not, he always plays Ariyibi in his 'best' position. I cannot recall Ariyibi playing out of position?

At Barnsley end of last season he looked excellent. He ran their full backs and got decent balls into the box. He caused major problems for a side who got promoted. Problem is I've not seen him anything other than poor since that game. Against Bolton he had a couple of opportunities where the CH's came over to cover their full backs yet he failed to even attempt to take them on. It was crying out for him to run at the giant, lumbering CH out of position but he played a ball inside into a crowded midfield. Dire decision making is unlikely to improve whether he plays for us, Blunts or Barcelona.

In a nutshell! Yes he will look better in a better team, but the trouble is that the better a team is they want better more consistent performers and they'd quickly lose patience with him, and he'd soon become the forgotten man. He needs a team like Rochdale, a little team that shines and is still within his abilities, who can put up more with his poor decision making and inconsistent shows. The trouble is that these type of teams usually don't want to waste what little resources they have on players of this ilk (note for town here) nor can afford what we would want for him, nor what he'd want in wages, so it's catch 22. Will there be somebody desperate enough to take a punt who can also afford him?? Or is he destined for a move when his contract runs out; though I still don't see him having many (if any) takers from the level above tbf, and from his point of view that's no bad thing either!

[60s 70s Spireite]

Spireite-Karl, on 28 December 2016 - 11:25 AM, said:

In a nutshell! Yes he will look better in a better team, but the trouble is that the better a team is they want better more consistent performers and they'd quickly lose patience with him, and he'd soon become the forgotten man. He needs a team like Rochdale, a little team that shines and is still within his abilities, who can put up more with his poor decision making and inconsistent shows. The trouble is that these type of teams usually don't want to waste what little resources they have on players of this ilk (note for town here) nor can afford what we would want for him, nor what he'd want in wages, so it's catch 22. Will there be somebody desperate enough to take a punt who can also afford him?? Or is he destined for a move when his contract runs out; though I still don't see him having many (if any) takers from the level above tbf, and from his point of view that's no bad thing either!

Gboly looks destined to be a permanent bench man at a club higher up the pyramid. These clubs can afford to pay him the wages to sit on the halfway line and come on for the last few minutes, or start when he occasionally hits the form he is capable of. In fact like many a winger in the English game. He is too much of a luxury at our level.

[dtp]

MDCCCLXVI, on 28 December 2016 - 10:29 AM, said:

Again I'm wondering if our dearth of credible midfielders has seen Martinez's cache raised to unrealistic levels.

He's played just three games for us, which is only one less than his entire contribution the previous season.

And Donohue?

Done okay in an unfamiliar position, yet we've seen next to nothing of him in central midfield.

I take your point, 'dtp' - Wilson's never really been able to field a first choice starting eleven - just as I recognise it's a problem beyond his creation.

However I do feel the time has come to admit we've seen too many disorganised and defensive defeats from a side struggling past the hour mark.

I agree with you regarding Angel, Chris, but my main point was that DW has never been able to field whatever he may think could be our strongest side. Whether they are good enough or not remains to be seen but, this season, we have had up to 10 players injured at any one time. If they had been available I have no doubt, though, that our squad would have been stronger.

As for Donohue, I put him there as a "for instance" and just to emphasise that if Jones ever returns back to a reasonable standard then Dion, in my opinion, has been one of our most consistent performers this season and deserves a starting place.

Midfield and defence (never mind attack) have been majorly problematic this season so, again, I made 3 changes in defence and 2 in midfield just to show the depth of the problem. And, by the way, I don't think Hird and Evatt together are good enough.

[Spireite-Karl]

dtp, on 28 December 2016 - 12:34 PM, said:

I agree with you regarding Angel, Chris, but my main point was that DW has never been able to field whatever he may think could be our strongest side. Whether they are good enough or not remains to be seen but, this season, we have had up to 10 players injured at any one time. If they had been available I have no doubt, though, that our squad would have been stronger.

As for Donohue, I put him there as a "for instance" and just to emphasise that if Jones ever returns back to a reasonable standard then Dion, in my opinion, has been one of our most consistent performers this season and deserves a starting place.

Midfield and defence (never mind attack) have been majorly problematic this season so, again, I made 3 changes in defence and 2 in midfield just to show the depth of the problem. And, by the way, I don't think Hird and Evatt together are good enough.

I know they aren't good enough together.

[Spireite-Karl]

60s 70s Spireite, on 28 December 2016 - 11:50 AM, said:

Gboly looks destined to be a permanent bench man at a club higher up the pyramid. These clubs can afford to pay him the wages to sit on the halfway line and come on for the last few minutes, or start when he occasionally hits the form he is capable of. In fact like many a winger in the English game. He is too much of a luxury at our level.

He won't even make the benches higher up the pyramid after a while imo. Without signing as a free agent then I don't see anybody from a higher level coming in for him again either without a really cheeky, test the water bid to see if we are prepared to cash in for next to nowt (and even then they've got to be desperate)

Agree with the bit in bold (unless you are a club that plays decent attacking football, certainly not one that doesn't and is scraping about in the bottom four)