[Phil V 72]

Hoare (400), on 20 November 2016 - 07:50 AM, said:

The most important thing will be from here on inwards, is TRUST, between the fans and those in charge, can I just re iterate to Ashley Carson if he reads this, and I say this with no axe to grind, that as long as Chris Turner remains at the club, there will never be 100% worth of trust coming from the fans. If you need any evidence of this, ask the fans around the concourse at the Bristol Rovers game.

Other than That I wish the club all the best, things have a weird way of working themselves out, and I feel there will be many twists an turns coming in the next few weeks.


Hoare (400)

But it wouldn't be real trust, it's the perception of trust.

Does anyone seriously think that Turner is solely responsible for all the ills of the club?

While he may come across as being rather hopeless I don't believe replacing him will alter the problems at the club.

[dim view]

Hoare (400), on 20 November 2016 - 07:50 AM, said:

The most important thing will be from here on inwards, is TRUST, between the fans and those in charge, can I just re iterate to Ashley Carson if he reads this, ...

....that he needs to allow Mike Warner to take over negotiations.

Ashley, you are Allen's man. Not only have you posted biased statements like this,

'To clarify:

£5 million to buy 83% Shares + Cover DA's Loans and then you would have to pay the mortgage every month for 10 years @ circa £27,000 a month'

which contains 3 errors in 28 words, all geared to helping Allen.

You have also openly admitted you are Allen's man on the inside and you've insulted the 4 directors who have made Allen's coup more difficult. That's because, by my reckoning, he will now have to find another £575k to acquire the club if administration happens. (That's because the 4 have not 'removed' their debentures.)

What am I saying? Mike, you are Chairman. Please insist that Ashley gets some rest.

[Rudeboy spireite]

AC is definitely DA's man, which I have no problem with, loyalty can be a good thing. The thing is that when they try to hoodwink us it is annoying as they are insulting our intelligence

[essexspireman]

As chairman, does Mike Warner have any power? E.g does he have the authority to sack Chris Turner as CEO?

[Rudeboy spireite]

The only person who has any power at the club is DA

[essexspireman]

Rudeboy spireite, on 20 November 2016 - 08:47 AM, said:

The only person who has any power at the club is DA

It does look like that

[Road Runner]

Has the EGM been called yet?

If CT is that much of a problem can the fans/shareholders give a vote of no confidence at said EGM?

While the bitch fest isn't helping matters, i can see why it's happening.

The CEO of a company staying silent when the troubles are known in the public domain doesn't sit right with anyone and rightly so.

AC has effective said he running the show at the moment, this is the CEO job so to me that was a inkling of what is about to happen.

Going forward my view is the board should look like this:

Chairman: Mike Warner
CEO: Ashley Carson
Director: John Croot

And a new special role:

Finance/Turnaround director: An accountant with turnaround experience should be appointed to the board.

The existing board need to find one, there must be some in the Chesterfield area and preferably a fan of the club. Either the club find him/her or him/her make themselves available to the club.

Fans need answers and the club need to work with the fans.

[CFC91]

Forever a Spireite, on 19 November 2016 - 11:31 PM, said:

Do we are all expected to turn up next Saturday and show our support for the board. I publically said I wouldn't go to the sheff u game as a protest. I went and got a load of stick. I went to take my 12 year old lad who couldn't give a toss about Turner. I took him but will not be at Bristol Rovers game if Turnipe is anywhere near this club. He is on probably at least £80k a year. How many on here earn half that. It's a scandal he has to go

Town fans are massively split on this it seems, which probably won't help the problem. Myself and many others are attending the Bristol Rovers game despite not being this season often as we recognise the club needs all the support it can get. Yet others are going the opposite way which will prevent the ground being a real show of support towards saving the club if we got our biggest turn out of the season next week..

The only thing we all seem to agree on is Turners position is untenable. However my views on Turner will not stop me trying to help the club survive in what is now it's hour of need. The club is a lot bigger than one man, and we shouldn't let the club go to the wall because of him. His time will come I'm sure, just maybe not as soon as we hope. In my eyes the main priority now is ensuring the club gets into the new year..and the fans can help that by turning out in the next 3 home games.

[Tylerdurdencfc]

CFC91, on 20 November 2016 - 10:20 AM, said:

Town fans are massively split on this it seems, which probably won't help the problem. Myself and many others are attending the Bristol Rovers game despite not being this season often as we recognise the club needs all the support it can get. Yet others are going the opposite way which will prevent the ground being a real show of support towards saving the club if we got our biggest turn out of the season next week..

The only thing we all seem to agree on is Turners position is untenable. However my views on Turner will not stop me trying to help the club survive in what is now it's hour of need. The club is a lot bigger than one man, and we shouldn't let the club go to the wall because of him. His time will come I'm sure, just maybe not as soon as we hope. In my eyes the main priority now is ensuring the club gets into the new year..and the fans can help that by turning out in the next 3 home games.

If the club genuinely needs 500k by Christmas, it doesn't matter if the ground was completely full.

The fans are split in what to do for the best.

[CFC91]

Tylerdurdencfc, on 20 November 2016 - 10:29 AM, said:

If the club genuinely needs 500k by Christmas, it doesn't matter if the ground was completely full.

The fans are split in what to do for the best.

It wouldn't get us 500k but it would be a start and better than what we would have normally. Add that together with winning in the FA Cup and getting a half decent draw in 3rd round and maybe we have a small chance..

[Torteval]

CFC91, on 20 November 2016 - 10:20 AM, said:

Town fans are massively split on this it seems, which probably won't help the problem. Myself and many others are attending the Bristol Rovers game despite not being this season often as we recognise the club needs all the support it can get. Yet others are going the opposite way which will prevent the ground being a real show of support towards saving the club if we got our biggest turn out of the season next week..

The only thing we all seem to agree on is Turners position is untenable. However my views on Turner will not stop me trying to help the club survive in what is now it's hour of need. The club is a lot bigger than one man, and we shouldn't let the club go to the wall because of him. His time will come I'm sure, just maybe not as soon as we hope. In my eyes the main priority now is ensuring the club gets into the new year..and the fans can help that by turning out in the next 3 home games.

I'd be surprised if Turner has had any part in this dangerous game that has been played out this week.

[60s 70s Spireite]

Torteval, on 20 November 2016 - 10:41 AM, said:

I'd be surprised if Turner has had any part in this dangerous game that has been played out this week.

None whatsoever I would imagine. Its all being played out above his head (in more ways than one)

[Skywalker]

Torteval, on 20 November 2016 - 10:41 AM, said:

I'd be surprised if Turner has had any part in this dangerous game that has been played out this week.

Maybe not this week but his past actions/inactions more than justify him being removed as CEO

[BlueRover52]

Skywalker, on 20 November 2016 - 11:17 AM, said:

Maybe not this week but his past actions/inactions more than justify him being removed as CEO

He has to go.Even if he has been nothing more than DA's puppet,if he had any respect for himself he would have walked.Keeping his head down and avoiding the flak is a shambles for a CEO.

[ELTON 2020]

Road Runner, on 20 November 2016 - 10:19 AM, said:

Has the EGM been called yet?

If CT is that much of a problem can the fans/shareholders give a vote of no confidence at said EGM?

While the bitch fest isn't helping matters, i can see why it's happening.

The CEO of a company staying silent when the troubles are known in the public domain doesn't sit right with anyone and rightly so.

AC has effective said he running the show at the moment, this is the CEO job so to me that was a inkling of what is about to happen.

Going forward my view is the board should look like this:

Chairman: Mike Warner
CEO: Ashley Carson
Director: John Croot

And a new special role:

Finance/Turnaround director: An accountant with turnaround experience should be appointed to the board.

The existing board need to find one, there must be some in the Chesterfield area and preferably a fan of the club. Either the club find him/her or him/her make themselves available to the club.

Fans need answers and the club need to work with the fans.

As for the EGM. My understanding is that non-shareholders can attend and can speak if given permission to do so by the chairman. I do feel this should open to non-shareholders - apparently last time there was a lot of room for more people. I'd even pay for the priviledge of getting in.

[Guest_freelander2_*]

Road Runner, on 20 November 2016 - 10:19 AM, said:

Has the EGM been called yet?

If CT is that much of a problem can the fans/shareholders give a vote of no confidence at said EGM?

While the bitch fest isn't helping matters, i can see why it's happening.

The CEO of a company staying silent when the troubles are known in the public domain doesn't sit right with anyone and rightly so.

AC has effective said he running the show at the moment, this is the CEO job so to me that was a inkling of what is about to happen.

Going forward my view is the board should look like this:

Chairman: Mike Warner
CEO: Ashley Carson
Director: John Croot

And a new special role:

Finance/Turnaround director: An accountant with turnaround experience should be appointed to the board.

The existing board need to find one, there must be some in the Chesterfield area and preferably a fan of the club. Either the club find him/her or him/her make themselves available to the club.

Fans need answers and the club need to work with the fans.

On what basis do you see Ashley Carson as CEO material for our football club? I'm genuinely intrigued!

[ELTON 2020]

CFC91, on 20 November 2016 - 10:20 AM, said:

Town fans are massively split on this it seems, which probably won't help the problem. Myself and many others are attending the Bristol Rovers game despite not being this season often as we recognise the club needs all the support it can get. Yet others are going the opposite way which will prevent the ground being a real show of support towards saving the club if we got our biggest turn out of the season next week..

The only thing we all seem to agree on is Turners position is untenable. However my views on Turner will not stop me trying to help the club survive in what is now it's hour of need. The club is a lot bigger than one man, and we shouldn't let the club go to the wall because of him. His time will come I'm sure, just maybe not as soon as we hope. In my eyes the main priority now is ensuring the club gets into the new year..and the fans can help that by turning out in the next 3 home games.

What use is that for a potential "investor?" We need to get 7000 in etc... Cutting of noses to spite faces doesn't work imo

[CFC91]

Elton John 1866, on 20 November 2016 - 11:54 AM, said:

What use is that for a potential "investor?" We need to get 7000 in etc... Cutting of noses to spite faces doesn't work imo

I don't know but reading on here and social media there is still a lot still not willing to turn out for the Rovers/Wycombe games.

[Spireite-Karl]

lindo-spireite, on 20 November 2016 - 07:54 AM, said:

Are you capable of making a post that isn't about Turner?

Yeah he's bad for our club, but you're so boring banging on about it all the time.

I was just about to say the same.. It's as bad as Calvin Plumber's going on about Evans all the time. Let me spell this out for you loud and clear... CT IS ONLY A VERY SMALL PART OF THE PROBLEM! BASICALLY HE'S DA'S PUPPET (SO IS CARSON) AND WE ARE ALL AT THE BECK AND CALL OF JUST ONE MAN. HE PULLS 100% OF THE CFC STRINGS AND HIS END GAME IS ONE WE APPEAR TOTALLY POWERLESS TO PREVENT WHATEVER THAT MAYBE (UNLESS SOME EXTREMELY RICH PERSON STEPS IN AND BUYS HIM OUT). MIKE WARNER IS POWERLESS TO DO ANYTHING JUST LIKE THE REST OF US.

OH, AND ONE MORE THING.. IF DA DIDN'T WANT CT IN HIS MASTER PLAN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN OUTED YEARS AGO OR NOT EVEN EMPLOYED IN THE FIRST PLACE... So for heavens sake, PLEASE stop going on about CT, he's the very least of our worries!!! Yes he's costing us a lot of money a year, but this is only a drop in the ocean to the money that we're losing.

To cut it short, I'm more worried about what DA has planned, than the bit of money that CT's currently costing us. Basically he's just another large wage to us like one of our many injured players... He's offering nothing, but taking a wage and has no affect on anything important. So please give it a rest and concentrate on the real problem here.

All the above are just my opinions.

This post has been edited by Spireite-Karl: 20 November 2016 - 12:19 PM

[calvin plummers socks]

freelander2, on 20 November 2016 - 11:53 AM, said:

On what basis do you see Ashley Carson as CEO material for our football club? I'm genuinely intrigued!

Business acumen, the balls to stand up in front of a camera and fans, experience of football club management - all things our current CEO doesn't have perhaps?