[Rudeboy spireite]

I would sooner die standing up mate, don't do the kneeling down bit. Think that you are right though

[marlons curtains]

Needing £500k before Christmas is a concern. Knowing it's being asked for by people who have demonstrated they have no idea of managing the purse strings is equally so.

[Lincs Spireite]

If CT was anything like an honourable person he would resign.

[The Black Triangle]

I'm puzzled. Let's assume Allen returns on his white horse to save the day, will he be expecting a galvanised fan base? Because there is definately a feeling among some that he has deliberately engineered this crisis, in 150th year. Angry fans are not very forgiving.
I'd almost favour a new AFC Chesterfield.
So what the heck is Allen playing at? Does he assume that 7000 will turn up, tugging the forelock and being so grateful that all the 3 Sheffield men's actions will be forgiven and forgotten?

[essexspireman]

marlons curtains, on 20 November 2016 - 09:18 AM, said:

Needing £500k before Christmas is a concern. Knowing it's being asked for by people who have demonstrated they have no idea of managing the purse strings is equally so.

What do we need £500k for?????

edit or should I say what do they need £500k for????

This post has been edited by essexspireman: 20 November 2016 - 09:36 AM

[Search & Destroy]

essexspireman, on 20 November 2016 - 09:32 AM, said:

What do we need £500k for?????

edit or should I say what do they need £500k for????

Because unless we get 11000 a game, or the players play for nothing, we lose £200k a month

That's the business plan

Or you drop lucky on a Clucas, Darikwa etc

[spireitewolf]

BeastMode said:

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Your constant bashing of Ched is embarrassing, you mention him at every opportunity, shall we start calling you Walton? Another one who has t state the same Bunkum constantly

Ye leave Ched out of this !!

[essexspireman]

Search and Destroy, on 20 November 2016 - 09:38 AM, said:

Because unless we get 11000 a game, or the players play for nothing, we lose £200k a month

That's the business plan

Or you drop lucky on a Clucas, Darikwa etc

still doesn't add up, only 5 weeks until Christmas

[Stockholm Spireite]

essexspireman, on 20 November 2016 - 09:41 AM, said:

still doesn't add up, only 5 weeks until Christmas

Having only one home game in December doesn't help cash flow. Nor is it the only or real reason.

[The Black Triangle]

The timing of all this is very interesting.
The club hold a meeting with fans groups, where they get some tough questions and don't get an easy ride. At the same time talk of protests seem to gather momentum. Previous meetings with fans had been vetoed by Allen (pie pint and a tour of the DV) yet this one goes ahead with his blessing! Was it simply a Reconnaissance exercise to find out what these pesky fans knew, and what the intentions were? Then a board meeting where DA puts a proposal he thinks will be rejected, followed by his walkout speech at the AGM. Then, when the board accept his proposal he then rejects it, citing even more punitive terms. Cementing his grip and side lining any who may still oppose him.
All this happens with a week or so.
Coincidence?

This post has been edited by The Gimp: 20 November 2016 - 09:51 AM

[valemadness]

freelander2, on 19 November 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

Perhaps AC could confirm what he means by, all the directors to remove their debentures?

OK, just want to make sure I understand this. Debentures are the loans the directors have given CFC yes? So was DA asking them to take their loans back and resign? If so how was he expecting them to be paid back? Or was he expecting them to resign but leave their money here? And now they have resigned are they due their money back straight away?

[essexspireman]

Stockholm Spireite, on 20 November 2016 - 09:45 AM, said:

Having only one home game in December doesn't help cash flow. Nor is it the only or real reason.

including the cup game, there are 3 home games between now and Christmas and both Bolton and Bristol Rovers are likely to bring a few fans. What is the real reason? do they need to pay the departed director's loans off?

[dim view]

The Gimp, on 20 November 2016 - 09:49 AM, said:

The timing of all this is very interesting.
The club hold a meeting with fans groups, where they get some tough questions and don't get an easy ride. At the same time talk of protests seem to gather momentum. Previous meetings with fans had been vetoed by Allen (pie pint and a tour of the DV) yet this one goes ahead with his blessing! Was it simply a Reconnaissance exercise to find out what these pesky fans knew, and what the intentions were? Then a board meeting where DA puts a proposal he thinks will be rejected, followed by his walkout speech at the AGM. Then, when the board accept his proposal he then rejects it, citing even more punitive terms. Cementing his grip and side lining any who may still oppose him.
All this happens with a week or so.
Coincidence?

The meeting was organised to gauge whether Ashley could make a breakthrough with supporters.
By the way, he still has an action point to tell us where CBC is with progress on their investigation into Rafflegate. He intimated that everything was rosy, but no confirmation has yet been forthcoming.

[calvin plummers socks]

essexspireman, on 20 November 2016 - 09:32 AM, said:

What do we need £500k for?????

edit or should I say what do they need £500k for????

To pay those wonderful wizards of the game who entice us and enthrall us with their football ability.

Ebanks-Blake, Evatt, Evans, Et al ....

Worth every penny

[azul]

marlons curtains, on 20 November 2016 - 09:18 AM, said:

Needing £500k before Christmas is a concern. Knowing it's being asked for by people who have demonstrated they have no idea of managing the purse strings is equally so.

Classic example of British unstatement

[The Black Triangle]

dim view, on 20 November 2016 - 09:58 AM, said:

The meeting was organised to gauge whether Ashley could make a breakthrough with supporters.
By the way, he still has an action point to tell us where CBC is with progress on their investigation into Rafflegate. He intimated that everything was rosy, but no confirmation has yet been forthcoming.

On the fans side maybe. But why did DA have a sudden change of heart and agree to it

[Torteval]

valemadness, on 20 November 2016 - 09:54 AM, said:

OK, just want to make sure I understand this. Debentures are the loans the directors have given CFC yes? So was DA asking them to take their loans back and resign? If so how was he expecting them to be paid back? Or was he expecting them to resign but leave their money here? And now they have resigned are they due their money back straight away?

When they talk about debentures, this has always referred to the loans to the club that are secured by a charge on the ground. The concern is that "removing their debentures" may have meant removing the charge on the ground, but without the loans being repaid. The charges on the ground could give some protection should there be an attempt to move it's ownership from CFC. Of course, there could be no issue and the club simply wanted to stump up around £2m to repay them.

This post has been edited by Torteval: 20 November 2016 - 10:11 AM

[The Black Triangle]

Torteval, on 20 November 2016 - 10:03 AM, said:

The charges on the ground could give some protection should there be an attempt to move it's ownership from CFC.

[Heart of a Niven]

I'm going to be very bold here - and feel free to shout me down - and say I don't believe any of this. As The Gimp mentioned, the recent chain of events have been too much of a coincidence.
The fact that year after year the club release what can best be described as 'abridged' accounts, means the fans are left none the wiser as to how the club is truly being run.
DA, and his remaining nodding dogs, have got us where they want us - in a state of panic, fretting for the very future of the club. DA is playing this Game of Board Room Chairs for his benefit alone, with the intention of gaining complete control of Chesterfield Football Club. The day that happens is the day we REALLY need to start worrying.

[Westbars Spireite]

Q&A to be held online apparently.

It didn't state who would be answering.

This post has been edited by Westbars Spireite: 20 November 2016 - 10:09 AM