[acarson]

MDCCCLXVI, on 19 November 2016 - 09:37 AM, said:

Ashley.

This is simply my suggested - SUGGESTED - version of events so please don't misinterpret what follows as any kind of insult.

I'm also happy to retract and apologise for anything that's mistaken.

But if you really have been having so many sleepless nights, taking so much responsibility, what's the point of a CEO?

Or at least the current CEO.

As for any talk of a 'gang of four', I prefer to view them as local people who helped stabilise CFC in the wake of our last 'near death' episode. Folk who've made a huge financial, and long term emotional commitment to Chesterfield FC.

Is it true they were given some sort of ultimatum which forced them to resign? Infact could it be argued they did so for the benefit of CFC?

In the short term, anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I've had some pretty strong disagreements with them in the past, it's just that I hope there'll be no needless character assassinations.

What does appear certain is that DA, the majority shareholder and creditor, has total control of the Club, now. He did before, of course, however anyone who might've in any way challenged him has now left. A coincidence? Or perhaps a situation that's been planned for quite some time.

I honestly don't know, maybe we'll never know, yet the suspicious and cynical may focus upon recent share movements allied to CBC's mortgage being embraced.

My guess is we'll see a couple or three individuals in your 'mould' become directors in the near future. Individuals whom Dave Allen trusts to run the Club in the manner he dictates. Is that accurate? We'll see.

Let's be clear; all I and every other Chesterfield supporter wants is a stable football club that wins games in a stadium that funds the team. If this week's events facilitate that I guess we can all move forward. As I said at the fans forum the other Wednesday I don't want to be doing this. I don't want to even mention the Chairman, the CEO, the Board or any other behind the scenes stuff.

I just want to talk about football.

The sooner we can do that the better, so please allow me to finish by offering everyone with the Club's best interests at heart my loyalty support.

Chris Snell.

[acarson]

Thank you Chris for your views, all noted.

I apologise for the use of "gang of four" not the best phrase, but I did not want them to resign, I would have much preferred them to have stayed and supported me.

The pressure has mounted personally now and I have fewer heads to turn to to discuss the options

I will relay something back later, probably via CFC Official at first

I have a good feeling bout the result today

AshleyC

[Skywalker]

acarson, on 19 November 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:

Thank you Chris for your views, all noted.

I apologise for the use of "gang of four" not the best phrase, but I did not want them to resign, I would have much preferred them to have stayed and supported me.

The pressure has mounted personally now and I have fewer heads to turn to to discuss the options

I will relay something back later, probably via CFC Official at first

I have a good feeling bout the result today

AshleyC

Ashley,

Like Chris, I've heard that the 4 Directors were given an ultimatum to either accept DA's plan or resign. They resigned in the best interests of the club to prevent the club be taken into administration.

Also, heard CT was given an ultimatum too.

[The Black Triangle]

acarson, on 19 November 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:

Thank you Chris for your views, all noted.

I apologise for the use of "gang of four" not the best phrase, but I did not want them to resign, I would have much preferred them to have stayed and supported me.

The pressure has mounted personally now and I have fewer heads to turn to to discuss the options

I will relay something back later, probably via CFC Official at first

I have a good feeling bout the result today

AshleyC

What actions are being taken/will be taken to stem the losses that are crippling the club and have been for at least 3 years?

[starsky72]

MDCCCLXVI, on 19 November 2016 - 09:37 AM, said:

Ashley.

This is simply my suggested - SUGGESTED - version of events so please don't misinterpret what follows as any kind of insult.

I'm also happy to retract and apologise for anything that's mistaken.

But if you really have been having so many sleepless nights, taking so much responsibility, what's the point of a CEO?

Or at least the current CEO.

As for any talk of a 'gang of four', I prefer to view them as local people who helped stabilise CFC in the wake of our last 'near death' episode. Folk who've made a huge financial, and long term emotional commitment to Chesterfield FC.

Is it true they were given some sort of ultimatum which forced them to resign? Infact could it be argued they did so for the benefit of CFC?

In the short term, anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I've had some pretty strong disagreements with them in the past, it's just that I hope there'll be no needless character assassinations.

What does appear certain is that DA, the majority shareholder and creditor, has total control of the Club, now. He did before, of course, however anyone who might've in any way challenged him has now left. A coincidence? Or perhaps a situation that's been planned for quite some time.

I honestly don't know, maybe we'll never know, yet the suspicious and cynical may focus upon recent share movements allied to CBC's mortgage being embraced.

My guess is we'll see a couple or three individuals in your 'mould' become directors in the near future. Individuals whom Dave Allen trusts to run the Club in the manner he dictates. Is that accurate? We'll see.

Let's be clear; all I and every other Chesterfield supporter wants is a stable football club that wins games in a stadium that funds the team. If this week's events facilitate that I guess we can all move forward. As I said at the fans forum the other Wednesday I don't want to be doing this. I don't want to even mention the Chairman, the CEO, the Board or any other behind the scenes stuff.

I just want to talk about football.

The sooner we can do that the better, so please allow me to finish by offering everyone with the Club's best interests at heart my loyalty support.

Chris Snell.

It's a shame when so many fans feel this way... But they do.

[metallilad]

Heart of a Niven, on 19 November 2016 - 09:45 AM, said:

I'm with you on this one. What worries me is if DA is seeking to establish a form of dictatorship around the club then this cannot be beneficial for anyone but DA. Added to the way this week has been played out there will surely be even less trust of the board from the fanbase.

Does it really matter who or if anybody wants total control? It's not as if he's going to take over then remortgage the club to build another casino. He's a business man that has always said he wants the club to be able to pay for itself so if he gets in his own people to do this then so be it.
If this can happen then all we need to do is moan about the managers crazy substitutions. Remember them days? Oh how I yearn for them again.

[dim view]

acarson, on 19 November 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:

Thank you Chris for your views, all noted.

I apologise for the use of "gang of four" not the best phrase, but I did not want them to resign, I would have much preferred them to have stayed and supported me.

The pressure has mounted personally now and I have fewer heads to turn to to discuss the options

I will relay something back later, probably via CFC Official at first

I have a good feeling bout the result today

AshleyC

I volunteer to come on board as an unpaid Non Exec if you want more opinions. I suspect you don't.

[Spireiteboy155]

clay cross blue, on 19 November 2016 - 07:57 AM, said:

Wish we knew where Mr Turner is, no comment from him all week,mmmmmmmmmmmmm.
I am thinking of logging a missing persons report with our local Constabulary.

If you do that though, they'll probably find him and bring him back...

[frearsghost]

Heart of a Niven, on 19 November 2016 - 09:45 AM, said:

I'm with you on this one. What worries me is if DA is seeking to establish a form of dictatorship around the club then this cannot be beneficial for anyone but DA. Added to the way this week has been played out there will surely be even less trust of the board from the fanbase.

Depends how you define dictatorship. Another way of looking at it, is a board that pulls together and is singing from the same hymn sheet. If DA wants to create that it's fine by me. It's not necessarily true that such a board of directors would be dictated too. I don't think DA would want that either.

[Lincs Spireite]

freelander2, on 19 November 2016 - 08:45 AM, said:

Who the F do you think has been running the club on a day to day basis?

It's about time some of you lot woke up.

No need to be abusive, I meant officially, he is still officially CEO.

This post has been edited by Bowzer spirey: 19 November 2016 - 12:28 PM

[Guest_freelander2_*]

Torteval, on 19 November 2016 - 10:44 AM, said:

If you're describing "safety" as being out of the boardroom with combined £1.46m million owed to them, then that's completely lost on me.

We need to understand why these 4 directors have chosen to resign at this time and what other conditions have induced it. How could their positions become so uncomfortable that they just walk away, bearing in mind at least one of the four was involved in the saving of the club last time.

I'd like to know why, after years of chasing CBC to write off the loan to the club, DA suddenly chose to pay it off. Was it so that he could advance the money at a lower rate, or were there any other motives? Did anything from this move impact on the security held for the other director's debentures?

I also wonder whether all these directors agreed with the way the club was heading for financial oblivion, and agreed with the retention of the CEO?

I find it very hard to believe that 4 directors who have been so supportive of the club for such a long time have suddenly become the villains.

At the moment, nothing is clear and an open mind is a pre-requisite. But we do deserve a full explanation of exactly what has happened , and why.

Spot on.

[Sammy Spireite]

Torteval, on 19 November 2016 - 10:44 AM, said:

I find it very hard to believe that 4 directors who have been so supportive of the club for such a long time have suddenly become the villains.

Exactly!!!

[Guest_freelander2_*]

Bowzer spirey, on 19 November 2016 - 11:35 AM, said:

No need to be abusive, I meant officially, he is still officially CEO.

Apologies. No offence intended.

[Westbars Spireite]

Skywalker, on 19 November 2016 - 10:57 AM, said:

Ashley,

Like Chris, I've heard that the 4 Directors were given an ultimatum to either accept DA's plan or resign. They resigned in the best interests of the club to prevent the club be taken into administration.

Also, heard CT was given an ultimatum too.

I like the sound of that last sentence.

[Stockholm Spireite]

Ashley,

I've mentioned before about how an officer of the club might want to present themselves in their comments made on social media. You've referred to directors as "the famous 4" and said the vice-chairman "has proved he has no bottle". Just how many more soundbites to you want to give gutter press hacks to peddle in yet more bad publicity for our club? Potentially, you've just given those poor excuses for journalists to write even more divisive rubbish about the recent events. Please, if you have a statement to make about the club, can you leave out your own personal feelings and deliver information in a more matter-of-fact manner?

In the Derbyshire Times article "Anyone got £9m?" Read here, it states:

Quote

Potential investors would first need to put their offers and business plans to Andy Ryder who runs the corporate finance department at the club’s auditors, Shorts.

• After receiving the recent accounts, what is the current plan the club has to address the year upon year losses?
  
• Have the auditors helped since the losses were originally recorded - was there any advice offered and has it been acknowledged or ignored?
  
• Is there a very misguided belief that we have a conveyor belt of talent that we can sell year on year to always cover the shortfall?
  
• If Ched hasn't signed the extension we promised he would and there is no cash cow to milk this season, who is the next cab off the rank? And then the next? And the next? Etc, etc...

EDIT: If the article is correct (these figures used by you, on a thread on this board) and £5m is needed to buy 83% of the shares, can you explain/clarify:
You will "gift-back" the shares given to you by DA?
The shares gifted by DA to his family will be returned as part of the deal?
How the original £4m investment by DA for 80% of the shares is now worth £5m?
Where does the extra 3% stake come from?

This post has been edited by Stockholm Spireite: 19 November 2016 - 02:04 PM

[Heart of a Niven]

metallilad, on 19 November 2016 - 11:05 AM, said:

Does it really matter who or if anybody wants total control? It's not as if he's going to take over then remortgage the club to build another casino. He's a business man that has always said he wants the club to be able to pay for itself so if he gets in his own people to do this then so be it.
If this can happen then all we need to do is moan about the managers crazy substitutions. Remember them days? Oh how I yearn for them again.

It's fine if the dictator at the helm has the club's best interests at heart. I question DA's motivation in all of this and if it is a case of continuing the 'I'm Dave Allen and nobody questions me' approach (something that has been alluded to, even by those close to him), I can't see things getting any better and I can't see it getting the fans on side.

[Rudeboy spireite]

My gues is that the club goes into administration, we go into div 2 AS Leisure buys the club for a pound and we start again next season.

[Guest_freelander2_*]

MDCCCLXVI, on 19 November 2016 - 09:37 AM, said:

Ashley.

This is simply my suggested - SUGGESTED - version of events so please don't misinterpret what follows as any kind of insult.

I'm also happy to retract and apologise for anything that's mistaken.

But if you really have been having so many sleepless nights, taking so much responsibility, what's the point of a CEO?

Or at least the current CEO.

As for any talk of a 'gang of four', I prefer to view them as local people who helped stabilise CFC in the wake of our last 'near death' episode. Folk who've made a huge financial, and long term emotional commitment to Chesterfield FC.

Is it true they were given some sort of ultimatum which forced them to resign? Infact could it be argued they did so for the benefit of CFC?

In the short term, anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I've had some pretty strong disagreements with them in the past, it's just that I hope there'll be no needless character assassinations.

What does appear certain is that DA, the majority shareholder and creditor, has total control of the Club, now. He did before, of course, however anyone who might've in any way challenged him has now left. A coincidence? Or perhaps a situation that's been planned for quite some time.

I honestly don't know, maybe we'll never know, yet the suspicious and cynical may focus upon recent share movements allied to CBC's mortgage being embraced.

My guess is we'll see a couple or three individuals in your 'mould' become directors in the near future. Individuals whom Dave Allen trusts to run the Club in the manner he dictates. Is that accurate? We'll see.

Let's be clear; all I and every other Chesterfield supporter wants is a stable football club that wins games in a stadium that funds the team. If this week's events facilitate that I guess we can all move forward. As I said at the fans forum the other Wednesday I don't want to be doing this. I don't want to even mention the Chairman, the CEO, the Board or any other behind the scenes stuff.

I just want to talk about football.

The sooner we can do that the better, so please allow me to finish by offering everyone with the Club's best interests at heart my loyalty support.

Chris Snell.

As you know, some of us have been trying to predict the end game for some time now.

I strongly believe that a club rescued by the hoodwinkers & the bottlers (not my words) would have generated support from the fans, sponsors and the local business community. I'm not sure Carson et al will benefit from the same luxury, for reasons that are all too obvious.

This post has been edited by freelander2: 19 November 2016 - 01:21 PM

[bucko]

Freelander

AC could quite easily of walked too but has decided to stay and look for a solution to this mess.
I think we should cut the guy some slack and see what direction we go in next.
Remember too it's all of our football club and we can do what we can do and that is rally round and give those who are trying to sort it out our full support.

This post has been edited by bucko: 19 November 2016 - 01:22 PM

[Stockholm Spireite]

bucko, on 19 November 2016 - 01:22 PM, said:

AC could quite easily of walked too but has decided to stay and look for a solution to this mess.

Maybe it becomes slightly more difficult to leave the room when you've been gifted vast amount of shares from the chairman?