[cfc_scott]

Les Ashmore, on 11 November 2016 - 10:16 AM, said:

Thank you But as I stated (In which I never called you a Liar) Cab Firms do have Brand New drivers who unfortunately do not know every road,
Someone else stated that City are bringing in drivers/cars from Sheffield, That was in reply to that statement also.

Taxi driver i had the other other day, told me he has come from city cars, so someone is lying. Dont see what the driver would have to gain lying about that mind..........
Its understandable if they have never heard of say..... Bridene road in linacre, but not knowing chatsworth road is a bit of a urine take, the bloke should not be working as a taxi driver

This post has been edited by cfc_scott: 11 November 2016 - 02:03 PM

[azul]

Andy Spireite, on 11 November 2016 - 12:59 PM, said:

But we knew this based on the last 2 years worth of accounts.

The fact that there is no plan to reverse this after two whole years is absolutely shocking. In any other business I can think of the CEO would have been given his marching orders way before now.

I guess the naive amongst thought they might have a cunning plan to reduce the underlying losses. Sadly we don't seem to have a Baldrick on the club's board

[spireitenag]

Les Ashmore, on 11 November 2016 - 08:44 AM, said:

Right, First off I have NEVER asked FOR nor NEEDED personal protection, When asked Wednesday what the goons were for I sarcastically replied "For Me" the reason I did that was because when they first appeared on the scene it was stated on this forum that they were for me after a small confrontation I had with F2 and MXXX whatever, or shall I say Mike Pearson and Chris Snell.

Now if any of you would like to test if I need protection You know where to find me and how to find me. How absolutely immature and juvenile ?

You know my name (I don't Hide it), So please PM me.

Because the ones that are so brave hiding themselves, you never know I might already know who you are? Your remarks actually seem as if you are threatening people Les. Act your age and not your shoe size !

[spireitenag]

Les Ashmore, on 11 November 2016 - 08:58 AM, said:

Since City purchased CLUB Not a single Driver has been brought in from Sheffield Co, We do actually get totally NEW drivers who have to learn the roads, Part of the Deal was that No Drivers were brought in from Parent Company, I wish they would then I can get an even bigger payout, We protected every single person that worked or works for us in the contract.

Please find things out before making such ridiculous statements

How come the Club/City Cars drivers I have used recently have all complained bitterly about drivers being brought in from Sheffield,Rotherham and Mexborough every weekend ?

[SuperJackyLester]

spireitenag, on 11 November 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

How come the Club/City Cars drivers I have used recently have all complained bitterly about drivers being brought in from Sheffield,Rotherham and Mexborough every weekend ?

I have had the same thing when I have had a taxi recently. Also they have added a 50p fee for paying on your card when you use the app so ill not be using them anymore. Also this les guy is giving the whole company a very bad reputation with how he comes across on here

[dim view]

Zorro, on 11 November 2016 - 12:28 PM, said:

I will probably get shot down for this but I'm going to post.

I was 1 of the 30 attendees on the night and participated in throwing questions to the top table.
However I am a little disappointed that the questions and answers have appeared mostly in full on here already. Not that I disagree with any of the reports or content, purely as it was discussed at the start and at the end that a full detailed report would be given by Nick Johnson from the recorded debate that took place.

We were even informed that no action would have been taken towards any individual who asked any libellous questions.

Personally I thought we had took a step in the right direction but I now fear we have taken 2 steps backwards.

There was a lot of questions asked surrounding the worries and findings from the fans, both Ashley & Chris were continually attacked by all the 10 attendees from Bobs Board with a few questions posed by the Facebook Forum & Paul & The Bridge Inn representatives. I thought with the information they had at hand, the two of them answered openly & honestly. Chris Breeze and John Croot also answered questions that they could, so all in all, not 1 of the top table shirked questions or hid.

From my point of view, I would have liked to have seen a version of the questions and answers from the club before it was shared openly, I do not think a few days waiting for Nick to have gone through the recording would have hurt any fans. The same reports would still have appeared, but a few days later.

Apart from the questions on the night, Bobs Board submitted another list of questions to be answered that we thought may need researching. These have been answered but we are still in the position of readdressing the answers as we feel that they don't 'stack' up just yet, so we are asking for further clarity.

I think we may have damaged the good intentions both sides had.
Sorry, but that is my view.

Rob

Why would honest timely feedback to Bob's Board members, whom we represented, damage good intentions?

There was no request made from the top table to delay feedback.

Having read the report, I'd suggest doing things in the order you suggest would have damaged any future relationship even further because attendees would have complained at it's inadequacy. The report is of little value. It should have been much closer to minutes, with listed actions that AC and CT have taken on, to be used as the basis for the next meeting.

If AC stops future meetings because we have broken some kind of unspoken protocol, then it's an excuse and it shows how committed he is to wiping the slate clean and repairing damage.

[DIFH]

Zorro, on 11 November 2016 - 12:28 PM, said:

I will probably get shot down for this but I'm going to post.

I was 1 of the 30 attendees on the night and participated in throwing questions to the top table.
However I am a little disappointed that the questions and answers have appeared mostly in full on here already. Not that I disagree with any of the reports or content, purely as it was discussed at the start and at the end that a full detailed report would be given by Nick Johnson from the recorded debate that took place.

We were even informed that no action would have been taken towards any individual who asked any libellous questions.

Personally I thought we had took a step in the right direction but I now fear we have taken 2 steps backwards.

There was a lot of questions asked surrounding the worries and findings from the fans, both Ashley & Chris were continually attacked by all the 10 attendees from Bobs Board with a few questions posed by the Facebook Forum & Paul & The Bridge Inn representatives. I thought with the information they had at hand, the two of them answered openly & honestly. Chris Breeze and John Croot also answered questions that they could, so all in all, not 1 of the top table shirked questions or hid.

From my point of view, I would have liked to have seen a version of the questions and answers from the club before it was shared openly, I do not think a few days waiting for Nick to have gone through the recording would have hurt any fans. The same reports would still have appeared, but a few days later.

Apart from the questions on the night, Bobs Board submitted another list of questions to be answered that we thought may need researching. These have been answered but we are still in the position of readdressing the answers as we feel that they don't 'stack' up just yet, so we are asking for further clarity.

I think we may have damaged the good intentions both sides had.
Sorry, but that is my view.

Rob

I agree Bob with all your sentiments.

[Forever a Spireite]

after reading Nuck Johnsons "sanitised" notes I'm glad some of those attending gave us a better insight into the evenings events. Ive read all the relevant posts and one thing is glaringly obvious Turnipe has to be sacked asap. It's clear he has no business acumen no judge of character and no common sense. Allen has his reasons for keeping him and a few thousand town fans have their reasons why they are not prepared to give Turnipe their hard earned cash to fritter away due to his incompetence. As long as Turnipe is CEO and running the club day to day there will sadly only be one outcome. We will continue to lose money and only bankruptcy or administration will see him finally gone

I'd hoped the meeting the other night might show a genuine plan to halt the financial slide but with Captain Turnipe still at the helm it's only a matter of time till we hit the Iceberg!

[Spire-ite]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 11 November 2016 - 03:54 PM, said:

I agree Bob with all your sentiments.

I don't

[Zorro]

dim view, on 11 November 2016 - 03:36 PM, said:

Why would honest timely feedback to Bob's Board members, whom we represented, damage good intentions?

There was no request made from the top table to delay feedback.

Having read the report, I'd suggest doing things in the order you suggest would have damaged any future relationship even further because attendees would have complained at it's inadequacy. The report is of little value. It should have been much closer to minutes, with listed actions that AC and CT have taken on, to be used as the basis for the next meeting.

If AC stops future meetings because we have broken some kind of unspoken protocol, then it's an excuse and it shows how committed he is to wiping the slate clean and repairing damage.

Dave, there was a request at the start of the meeting from Nick that a recording would be used for accuracy of the wordings within the questions & answers. At the end of the meeting it was agreed that Nick would supply the 3 parties with the statement for us all to read & check the content.

The report issued by Nick may not have been the full report and maybe a shortened version because of what had been reported on here. If the report (as it is) from Nick was the only release, then I would have gone ballistic myself.

Not one of us had any intention of not reporting back, but as I said, a few days would not have hurt.
If you read back the reports, some of them say it's from memory and maybe another person may correct me. We are not a newspaper, we should print only facts.

I am hoping that another meeting will take place and other fans can attend, I am will to drop out to let another go in my place, but I would like to see that Mike, Nigel & Mark are included in the 10 for continuity.

There were tasks assigned to the top table from questions asked, I believe that some of these have been done and are being answered.

I questioned CT on the wage bill and specifically the figures relating to football staff within the Y/E figures and got this emailed response yesterday; -

Youth coaches – 15 academy coaches who are part time.

Scholars – 16

Professionals – 28

Management – 6

Academy coaches full time – 6

Total – 73 this is the total now, in last year’s accounts there were obviously 4 more.

So I do think they listened, are listening and want to bridge gaps.

Regarding what has been relayed to this forum, my thoughts are that ALL the meetings content should have been posted in 1 post rather than others filling the gaps.

Rob

[For your eyes only]

Hang on, the link that F2 posted on official CFC website, is that it?
Is that the 'official' minutes release??

[Forever a Spireite]

For your eyes only, on 11 November 2016 - 04:12 PM, said:

Hang on, the link that F2 posted on official CFC website, is that it?
Is that the 'official' minutes release??

Yep! Impressive isn't it

[newbold ken]

Zorro, on 11 November 2016 - 12:28 PM, said:

I will probably get shot down for this but I'm going to post.

I was 1 of the 30 attendees on the night and participated in throwing questions to the top table.
However I am a little disappointed that the questions and answers have appeared mostly in full on here already. Not that I disagree with any of the reports or content, purely as it was discussed at the start and at the end that a full detailed report would be given by Nick Johnson from the recorded debate that took place.

We were even informed that no action would have been taken towards any individual who asked any libellous questions.

Personally I thought we had took a step in the right direction but I now fear we have taken 2 steps backwards.

There was a lot of questions asked surrounding the worries and findings from the fans, both Ashley & Chris were continually attacked by all the 10 attendees from Bobs Board with a few questions posed by the Facebook Forum & Paul & The Bridge Inn representatives. I thought with the information they had at hand, the two of them answered openly & honestly. Chris Breeze and John Croot also answered questions that they could, so all in all, not 1 of the top table shirked questions or hid.

From my point of view, I would have liked to have seen a version of the questions and answers from the club before it was shared openly, I do not think a few days waiting for Nick to have gone through the recording would have hurt any fans. The same reports would still have appeared, but a few days later.

Apart from the questions on the night, Bobs Board submitted another list of questions to be answered that we thought may need researching. These have been answered but we are still in the position of readdressing the answers as we feel that they don't 'stack' up just yet, so we are asking for further clarity.

I think we may have damaged the good intentions both sides had.
Sorry, but that is my view.

Rob

Well it's alright for you and the 29 others who could attend isn't it - the meeting was on Tuesday and everyone wants to know what was said .thanks to Chris and others for posting cos there's fa from the club as usual .!

[brianclose]

newbold ken, on 11 November 2016 - 04:24 PM, said:

Well it's alright for you and the 29 others who could attend isn't it - the meeting was on Tuesday and everyone wants to know what was said .thanks to Chris and others for posting cos there's fa from the club as usual .!

Hear hear. Yet more posturing from the lucky few who were able to attend. Its like a kid with a bag of sweets that they don't want to share.

I enjoyed reading roman numerals summary far more than anything the club could put out.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Les Ashmore, on 11 November 2016 - 08:44 AM, said:

Right, First off I have NEVER asked FOR nor NEEDED personal protection, When asked Wednesday what the goons were for I sarcastically replied "For Me" the reason I did that was because when they first appeared on the scene it was stated on this forum that they were for me after a small confrontation I had with F2 and MXXX whatever, or shall I say Mike Pearson and Chris Snell.

Now if any of you would like to test if I need protection You know where to find me and how to find me.

You know my name (I don't Hide it), So please PM me.

Because the ones that are so brave hiding themselves, you never know I might already know who you are?

Les Ashmore, on 11 November 2016 - 09:52 AM, said:

At last we are getting someone who is speaking the truth, I thought a hell of a lot of good points were brought up Wednesday and points that needed an answer.
But the part that has pee'd me off is with all the respect that Nick Johnson has by all parties, The one sided version of events has been posted even though it was agreed that he would transcribe the recorded meeting and put the transcript to all groups / parties concerned for agreement before it was made part of a discussion.
I think everybody was in agreement that this type of forum is badly needed at CFC, I think it's future may be in jeopardy by this pre posting.
A lot of the version is fair but it is very obviously biased

Ayup, Les.

First of all allow me to pass on my sincere sympathies for the loss you've recently suffered, the one to which you referred the other evening.

Secondly I hope you appreciate me keeping that little rant you had between those present. Didn't want to embarrass you or owt (tha can do that for thi sen given this playground standard 'You know where to find me' kinda stuff). Two words, though; 'anger' and 'management'. You're welcome.

Then it's no good bleating about folk saying the big lads were for you when that's exactly what you told them. Looks like your sarcasm came back to bite you on the ass.

My report of the evening? Well I was gonna sit on it for a while until I realised things were beginning to emerge anyway. I don't do other social media but I'm told that's the case on there, too. Besides, I made it abundantly clear mine was an unofficial account - and ever heard of summat called censorship?

'Biased'? 'One sided version of events'? I've just read the report on the main forum which is hardly 'the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth', is it. Be interesting to read what you've said elsewhere, too (hey - you haven't been talking about me behind my back on 'Facebook'...have you? I think that's called hypocrisy). For what it's worth I'm happy to delete anything in my post that's misleading or inaccurate. So just contact one of our mod's, they'll refer to the full recording we made on the evening, and if I'm outta line Bob's your...well, board, I guess. If not we'll just assume it's a reasonable representation of what was said - fair enough?

Finally let me say that I respect you appearing under your own name. As I do you shaking hands even though we disagree. Infact I think you'll find there're only a couple on here who bandy snippy, sneering accusations whilst cowering in anonymity - and they're on your side!

Funny thing is they recently seem to've gone very 'no talkee' as you put it...

Chris.

[Zorro]

brianclose, on 11 November 2016 - 04:28 PM, said:

Hear hear. Yet more posturing from the lucky few who were able to attend. Its like a kid with a bag of sweets that they don't want to share.

I enjoyed reading roman numerals summary far more than anything the club could put out.

The lucky few met on Monday night to prepare.
The meeting took place Wednesday night and I arrived home at 11.25pm
Chris posted less than 24 hours ago

Chris provided the majority of content and others have filled in most of the gaps, you are missing the point. It would be best if all the sweets were shared and not just most of them. The bag of sweets were inside the audio from the night so the posts have been from memories and notes taken.

The release from the club is nothing short of disgraceful and translates very little from the discussions of the meeting.

There is no agenda from me or any others to keep things away from the fans, the 30 attendees were asked to wait until Nick had time to listen to the recording.

Rob

[Zorro]

The sign above the village has now been removed

Z

[RikShaw]

So we're forecasting a loss of £1.5m for this season! No wonder the club took a 'calculated' punt on Ched Evans, desperate times require desperate measures as they say. The club must be praying he bags plenty of goals asap so they can flog him for a £1m+ in January.
I wonder what the club's strategy for balancing the books next season when we're in League 2?

[hardgums]

Maverick, on 11 November 2016 - 05:51 PM, said:

So we're forecasting a loss of £1.5m for this season! No wonder the club took a 'calculated' punt on Ched Evans, desperate times require desperate measures as they say. The club must be praying he bags plenty of goals asap so they can flog him for a £1m+ in January.
I wonder what the club's strategy for balancing the books next season when we're in League 2?

I'm with you on this Maverick. I can only hope the AGM reveals what the clubs long term strategy is full stop!

[dim view]

Zorro, on 11 November 2016 - 04:48 PM, said:

The lucky few met on Monday night to prepare.
The meeting took place Wednesday night and I arrived home at 11.25pm
Chris posted less than 24 hours ago

Chris provided the majority of content and others have filled in most of the gaps, you are missing the point. It would be best if all the sweets were shared and not just most of them. The bag of sweets were inside the audio from the night so the posts have been from memories and notes taken.

The release from the club is nothing short of disgraceful and translates very little from the discussions of the meeting.

There is no agenda from me or any others to keep things away from the fans, the 30 attendees were asked to wait until Nick had time to listen to the recording.

Rob

Rob
We didn't particularly want AC to know that we had prepared.
The 30 attendees were not asked to wait.

Our group is the 'Change Is Required' group with building bridges a 'nice to have'. The 'Building Bridges' group is the next door on the left.