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The Accrington Burton Rochdale Scottish Model Food for thought.

#81 User is offline   Ernie Ernie Ernie 

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 08:59 PM

View Posth again, on 19 October 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

All the bluster in the world can't hide the fact that the number of fans who turned up weren't enough to give any hope that we could sustain Championship football. DA looked at the inflated sums we were paying out to the players in wages and bonuses, saw it was ruining the club, realised it was small beer compared to what we'd have to pay in the Championship, and pulled the plug. Sensible bloke, even if it's spoiling our Saturdays.
If you can't appreciate that there's certain level of support needed to match Championship spending then you're a lot more naïve than I think you are. We might guess at the level needed, but it's certainly five figures, and we never even got close. Please don't quote Yeovil and Burton at me - Yeovil are struggling to stay in the league after a catastrophic descent, and Burton will be joining us shortly, but even if you believe that one season of getting hammered in the Championship would be worth having, the man who would have to finance it plainly doesn't, and his is the only opinion that counts.
As for the rest of your output above, it bears no relation to reality whatsoever. Try taking a deep breath and writing in proper paragraphs - it aids reasoned thinking.



Your basically saying DA and the rest didn't have a clue what wages were when he took over, what they would be to mount a challenge and what they were in the Championship, given he had come from the Owls? Even if we had filled our stadium every week in the home ends, he knew the maximum income that would bring etc
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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:57 PM

View PostErnie Ernie Ernie, on 20 October 2016 - 08:59 PM, said:

Your basically saying DA and the rest didn't have a clue what wages were when he took over, what they would be to mount a challenge and what they were in the Championship, given he had come from the Owls? Even if we had filled our stadium every week in the home ends, he knew the maximum income that would bring etc



The 'not enough fans' line is just a transparent attempt to deny mismanagement.
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Posted 27 October 2016 - 07:57 PM

View PostElton John 1866, on 16 October 2016 - 09:40 AM, said:

"Ok, we're here to stay..." Quote from Planet of the Apes. What I see as key in this debate is having a manager who can do something on a shoestring. Since Paul Cook we've had neither. Saunders was a big time Charlie who blew the budget on crocks. Wilson , in his managerial career has had big budgets.. Sheffield Clubs, Bristol, Swindon, Barnsley etc.... I'm afraid it wouldn't surprise me if he walked away. The way things are going we are going to have to do another Cook, or better. The Accrington, Burton, Rochdale model and maybe even Bury etc... (I can't see their manager having a big pile of cash) and no doubt certain Scottish Prem, league 1 clubs base it on hungry young players, fit players, athletic and physical.I'm not sure we have many of these. The fact that Accy have a far lower budget than ours and turned up with a team could and should have had 6 goals lays this out on the footballing carpet. I think we have to forget Turner etc... when finding out the fundamentals of where we are. What we have to do now is weigh up whether a non-league manager with a proven record at a lower level. i.e. Cook at best, is the route to go down. I fear it is.

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