[firedodger]

Misnomer, on 20 June 2016 - 09:16 PM, said:

The only positive out of this is we will play France (you'd expect)....sounds crazy but out of: Portugal, Germany/Italy, Spain, I'd take the frogs any day...in the quarter finals.

I wouldn't want to face Payet

[mr. smith]

Misnomer, on 20 June 2016 - 09:16 PM, said:

The only positive out of this is we will play France (you'd expect)....sounds crazy but out of: Portugal, Germany/Italy, Spain, I'd take the frogs any day...in the quarter finals.

perhaps roy had a master plan all along

[Misnomer]

mr. smith, on 20 June 2016 - 09:18 PM, said:

perhaps roy had a master plan all along

I bet he'd argue that was exactly the case.....

[60s 70s Spireite]

jonnythespireite, on 20 June 2016 - 09:16 PM, said:

We would have qualified in a smaller tournament. We came second. Keep up .

Look again Einstein. There are now 6 groups as opposed to four, ergo they will be more third rate teams in the groups.

[Middle East]

jonnythespireite, on 20 June 2016 - 09:18 PM, said:

Dont book two seats together. I quite like to sit on mine.

Futre fu....

[jonnythespireite]

60s 70s Spireite, on 20 June 2016 - 09:21 PM, said:

Look again Einstein. There are now 6 groups as opposed to four, ergo they will be more third rate teams in the groups.

What's your point?
Have we or have we not qualified? Yes.
Would we have qualified in a smaller eight from 16 tournament? Yes.
And wind your neck in.

[jonnythespireite]

60s 70s Spireite, on 20 June 2016 - 09:14 PM, said:

Qualification? Thank UEFA for making it 16 from 24, rather than 8 from 16.

Reread what you put, I get you now but it's a moot point because we don't know who'd be in the group do we. Please try to be clearer next time.

[60s 70s Spireite]

jonnythespireite, on 20 June 2016 - 09:26 PM, said:

Reread what you put, I get you now but it's a moot point because we don't know who'd be in the group do we. Please try to be clearer next time.

Let's hope we are celebrating a place in the last eight. Then it will be a moot point,
As Bilic said, faced with packed defences, we have to run at the opposition, take them on. Someone needs to take responsibility.

[jonnythespireite]

60s 70s Spireite, on 20 June 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

Let's hope we are celebrating a place in the last eight. Then it will be a moot point,
As Bilic said, faced with packed defences, we have to run at the opposition, take them on. Someone needs to take responsibility.

None of midfield commits defenders by running at them. Just the full backs. Too much side to side. Not enough penetration.

[Goku]

jonnythespireite, on 20 June 2016 - 09:39 PM, said:

None of midfield commits defenders by running at them. Just the full backs. Too much side to side. Not enough penetration.

Wilshere can do this but he was off the pace/unfit/garbage last neet

[jonnythespireite]

Goku, on 21 June 2016 - 06:10 AM, said:

Wilshere can do this but he was off the pace/unfit/garbage last neet

He generally is all of those in my opinion.

[Goku]

jonnythespireite, on 21 June 2016 - 06:15 AM, said:

He generally is all of those in my opinion.

Gi orrrr he's quality when he's on it, that just doesn't happen enough sadly for a couple of reasons.

[Happ Hazzard]

I honestly don't care how we play, we have qualified for the 2nd round, that is literally all that matters. We play 2nd place in group F, the weakest group. Hopefully Iceland or Hungary and not Portugal even though Ronaldo's lot have looked mediocre so far.

I have £10 on Wales to win the Tournament at 80-1 so hoping for an England/Wales final to put me in a win/win situation.

[newboldsteve]

hilly81, on 20 June 2016 - 09:03 PM, said:

Play someone decent with a bit of ambition and we will be coming home.

Play someone decent with a bit of ambition and they might come out the box and give us some space to hurt them

[Spireite-Karl]

60s 70s Spireite, on 20 June 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

Let's hope we are celebrating a place in the last eight. Then it will be a moot point,
As Bilic said, faced with packed defences, we have to run at the opposition, take them on. Someone needs to take responsibility.

Bilic was spot on and the only one talking any sense. The others I'm afraid too loyal to see what really happened.

Goku, on 21 June 2016 - 06:25 AM, said:

Gi orrrr he's quality when he's on it, that just doesn't happen enough sadly for a couple of sreasons.

Agree, he used to be quality, but not sure he'll ever be anything like he was again though. He was shocking last night (had what's commonly known as 'Sterling's disease'.. which affects your ability to control or pass a football); thought Henderson was garbage as well.

This post has been edited by Spireite-Karl: 21 June 2016 - 09:28 AM

[HistoricWarwick]

I think England have been more entertaining than at many other tournaments in the last 20 years.

I wouldn't say the French or Germans have been any more impressive.

Even more so considering we have the one dimensional Henderson and Sterling and my tip is that Smalling will get sent off for one of his pointless bear hugs.

[Spireite-Karl]

newboldsteve, on 21 June 2016 - 08:36 AM, said:

Play someone decent with a bit of ambition and they might come out the box and give us some space to hurt them

Agree, if Roy gets him team formation and selection right. We can't go all top heavy like we have in the last two games with more strikers on than any other position. We have to have some quality to provide the strikers with chances in the first place and some proper balance to the team if we are to stand any chance.

So far we've played a decent half in all the three games and a poor one in the other imo. Second half V the Welsh and the first half in the other two games. Not good enough by a long shot, but as you say as things start to open up and when the chips are down we could start to grow into this tournament. A lot depends on Woy for me though and how he plays it.

HistoricWarwick, on 21 June 2016 - 09:32 AM, said:

I think England have been more entertaining than at many other tournaments in the last 20 years.

Certainly agree on that, but that's not saying much is it

[Paragon of Virtue]

Id take Portugal over the rest of their group, they might actually have a go and not sit back. They've been worse than England, I'd think we'd have them.

[Phil V 72]

HistoricWarwick, on 21 June 2016 - 09:32 AM, said:

I think England have been more entertaining than at many other tournaments in the last 20 years.

I wouldn't say the French or Germans have been any more impressive.

Even more so considering we have the one dimensional Henderson and Sterling and my tip is that Smalling will get sent off for one of his pointless bear hugs.

I agree, we are limited, but we've dominated every game we've played up to yet.

I don;t expect us to win this thing, just have a go and try to play good football and we've done that by and large

[Search & Destroy]

Hungary will be the same, attack v defence, they'll play for penalties, if we get beyond that, it's more of a football tournament.