[Mr Mercury]

There as certainly been a massive change in attitude from the media as well, almost as though they expect a not guilty verdict at a retrial. No media circus, no mass hysteria on the web, indeed stagsnet has seen some complimentary comments about the signing. It's certainly not the poisonous chalice it was last year.

[ELTON 2020]

Mr Mercury, on 20 June 2016 - 04:16 PM, said:

There as certainly been a massive change in attitude from the media as well, almost as though they expect a not guilty verdict at a retrial. No media circus, no mass hysteria on the web, indeed stagsnet has seen some complimentary comments about the signing. It's certainly not the poisonous chalice it was last year.

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[spireitetoo]

We all spent the last few weeks worrying about the impending relegation. .... if this signing works out and he's cleared at the retrial we need to be looking up not down....with angel jones evo back aswell we have the spine of a crackin team......just need to hope they all stay fit.

[jack bauer]

isleaiw1, on 20 June 2016 - 03:36 PM, said:

cant say as a father I am too happy about him as a role model (innocent or not) but then I brought my kids up to not get involved in that sort of stuff and to have more respect for themselves. And lets be honest, there are not many role models in the world of football - current England captain, former England captain and assistant manager at Man Utd being three high profile examples of people not behaving appropriately.

I would prefer him not to pull on the shirt for first team games until we know the outcome of the retrial and then judge.

I think that is a really good point and one the club should consider, ok, fine let him train and get up his fitness but not play him in a 1st team game until the verdict is out.

[ELTON 2020]

trickytrevsfanclub, on 20 June 2016 - 03:05 PM, said:

On threads about Town fans and hooliganism we regularly see folk commenting about "innocent" fans getting banning orders etc and what an outrage it is.
Evans had his conviction quashed and having read a lot about the case I am genuinely surprised it even got to court.
Yes he had drunken sex with a stranger and cheated on his girlfriend. How many people can hand on heart say they have never done this in their youth, maybe some posters on here are currently engaged in extra marital affairs? The Brad, The Aka it was happening all the time, it still happens all the time.
How many times do we read about footballers and roasting or texting pictures of their genitals etc.
The Internet and social media in particular mean this is so easy to get out in the public domain, does anyone for a minute think this is a new thing?
Take for example Tom Jones, a man who had thousands of women during his long career. All this time he was married to the same woman and was he ever referred to as a "scumbag"? He was a judge on a prime time family tv show yet no one ever commented on how bad a role model he was.
Have I got a daughter? Yes I have. I was also a 20 something male who met plenty of 20 something females in my younger days and know that they are no different to blokes in what they get up to after a few bevvies.
I believe there's an awful lot of hypocrisy from some of those slinging the mud.
As far as whether we should have signed him goes I'm not sure. I won't enjoy the negativity and adverse publicity that this brings to our club but on the other hand I do believe that on the facts known so far he should be given a second chance to rebuild his career and life. If one things for certain he knows this is his big chance and unless he gives it his absolute all he knows he'll get nowhere.

Sensible post - I'm not sure about what kind of publicity this signing will bring - maybe a few raised eyebrows. He's in the public eye, but if innocent, there may be less negative publicity

[spireitewolf]

Elton John 1866 said:

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Sensible post - I'm not sure about what kind of publicity this signing will bring - maybe a few raised eyebrows. He's in the public eye, but if innocent, there may be less negative publicity

Agree with very good post

[spireitewolf]

lindave said:

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It would be like having him on a 3 month loan deal if his trial goes the wrong way for him.Given the history of the case, its likely to tarnish the Club's good name but would the goals he scores before October be worth the hassle. Personally I think he is a prat (to put it mildly) for getting himself in the situation,but if he is finally cleared, then I'll back him like any other player at the Club, as long as he keeps his nose clean.Under normal circumstances I'd be very excited about this signing.Fingers cross this doesn't backfire on our great Club.

Exactly -- didn't we give Shinner a second chance !!!!

[longeatonspireite]

trickytrevsfanclub, on 20 June 2016 - 03:05 PM, said:

On threads about Town fans and hooliganism we regularly see folk commenting about "innocent" fans getting banning orders etc and what an outrage it is.
Evans had his conviction quashed and having read a lot about the case I am genuinely surprised it even got to court.
Yes he had drunken sex with a stranger and cheated on his girlfriend. How many people can hand on heart say they have never done this in their youth, maybe some posters on here are currently engaged in extra marital affairs? The Brad, The Aka it was happening all the time, it still happens all the time.
How many times do we read about footballers and roasting or texting pictures of their genitals etc.
The Internet and social media in particular mean this is so easy to get out in the public domain, does anyone for a minute think this is a new thing?
Take for example Tom Jones, a man who had thousands of women during his long career. All this time he was married to the same woman and was he ever referred to as a "scumbag"? He was a judge on a prime time family tv show yet no one ever commented on how bad a role model he was.
Have I got a daughter? Yes I have. I was also a 20 something male who met plenty of 20 something females in my younger days and know that they are no different to blokes in what they get up to after a few bevvies.
I believe there's an awful lot of hypocrisy from some of those slinging the mud.
As far as whether we should have signed him goes I'm not sure. I won't enjoy the negativity and adverse publicity that this brings to our club but on the other hand I do believe that on the facts known so far he should be given a second chance to rebuild his career and life. If one things for certain he knows this is his big chance and unless he gives it his absolute all he knows he'll get nowhere.

Glad I'm not in front of a jury made up from some members on this board.

[spireitetoo]

Blades fans taking the news pretty well on their board with most wishing ched and danny luck......very gracious of em

[Phil V 72]

longeatonspireite, on 20 June 2016 - 04:28 PM, said:

Glad I'm not in front of a jury made up from some members on this board.

I have to take issue with one point, none of this is about 'hating' Ched Evans, nor his guilt or innocence - it is about the decision makers at Chesterfield FC who have proven over the last 12 months to have questionable decision-making ablilities yet are now gambling on the club's reputation - do people trust them with this one??

[Westbars Spireite]

I'm not inclined to read any of this thread until later but I will say I'm very disappointed in Chesterfield FC.

[Price]

Elton John 1866, on 20 June 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

I think if he is found not guilty and people continue mouthing off - if he isn't guilty, they might well be advised to keep their feelings to themselves....

So Elton, whether he is guilty or not is the only thing that matters?

We'll see

[Hoare (400)]

If it looks like he will figure in the 1st team from the start, it almost certainly guarantee's us an early appearance on Sky doesn't it ?



Hoare (400)

[Price]

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I agree, and also with your previous comments. A lot of people here seem to think that football goes on in some sort of bubble, where any behaviour is acceptable as long as it brings 3 points and an excuse to punch the air and shout. And worryingly that mindset seems to extend to the people that run the club. This is a desperate and shabby signing. Furthermore, regardless of what may or may not be said during the retrial, you can expect Evans' defence team to hold up this contract as some sort of character reference. The club is being used. Those of us who live outside the bubble have one form of sanction, I suggest we use it.
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Good post.

[Goku]

calvin plummers socks, on 20 June 2016 - 04:25 PM, said:

He has plenty of previous.
If you have daughters- don't let them out in Town for the next year

So not only are you in favour of parent controlling daughter but you think they should live in fear of a man and change their lives accordingly?

Think I see why you stick up for Islam so much fella.

spireitetoo, on 20 June 2016 - 04:30 PM, said:

Blades fans taking the news pretty well on their board with most wishing ched and danny luck......very gracious of em

Probs cos most football fans are male and misogenistic to an extent. Insecure patriarchal society innit. More likely to back the shady male as opposed to the female even if said male has signed for a local team.

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[Price]

Phil V 72, on 20 June 2016 - 04:34 PM, said:

I have to take issue with one point, none of this is about 'hating' Ched Evans, nor his guilt or innocence - it is about the decision makers at Chesterfield FC who have proven over the last 12 months to have questionable decision-making ablilities yet are now gambling on the club's reputation - do people trust them with this one??

That's where I am. Nothing to do with guilt but about putting himself in a position where he could face charges and now the decision made by the club will alienate sections of the fan base and sponsors.

[Westbars Spireite]

If I see Bob Newton down the boozer in a bit I'll ask him his opinion on it.

[oldgoat]

Just got home from work to find this .

My inital feeling is that I would be reluctant to watch him in a town shirt untill after the re trial ,

if he is found not guilty at the re trial fair enough .

[tedspireite]

Cartman, on 20 June 2016 - 02:41 PM, said:

Predictable over reactions, bad day for female fans, have you got daughters, can't support the club anymore etc etc

At the moment the bloke is innocent

What we know is He had a drunken one nighter with a girl, something that is done up and down the country every night of the week - usually with the 'blame' lying equally on both sides

If he is found guilty then obviously this changes and he gets sacked!

Massive gamble, may work, might not!

[ossi]

Hoare (400), on 20 June 2016 - 04:54 PM, said:

If it looks like he will figure in the 1st team from the start, it almost certainly guarantee's us an early appearance on Sky doesn't it ?



Hoare (400)

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