[azul]

Sammy Spireite, on 27 May 2016 - 10:04 PM, said:

Things WILL be changing at the DC very soon, trust me.

The football club, however, is a different kettle of fish!!

So Turner is retreating from his debacle at the DC and is concentrating all hid efforts on the football club

[Denny]

Westbars Spireite, on 27 May 2016 - 10:09 PM, said:

What does 'fammouth' mean?

Fathom. I guess?

[Tylerdurdencfc]

Westbars Spireite, on 27 May 2016 - 10:09 PM, said:

What does 'fammouth' mean?

No idea the B****Y iPad haha

[spireitenag]

There is only one simple resolution to this farce.

CT and LS resign their positions as directors of this company and the DC/PPP/Intenational Academy are then incorporated into the CFC Academy and run by Mark Smith and his colleagues in a proper professional manner.

[Forever a Spireite]

valemadness, on 27 May 2016 - 09:11 PM, said:

No.
Seriously can't believe some of the comments about Karen on here. Earlier in the season people were saying how good she was. As a small independent online publication, Karen has provided some really top quality interviews. The issue with this interview is that both her and Sean Taylor (who were both doing their interviews) were both told that there would be no answers to questions unless it related to transfers/players. With the Derbyshire Times doing their outstanding work at the moment, it isn't necessary or needed to go in like a bull in a china ship. If their backs are already up it could have done more harm than good and totally blocked all media outlets apart from the CFC media department.

Just read your post! I disagree surely Real journalists don't play to rules or they turn round and and say I'm not going to be gagged! Only one media outlet to be praised the DT. It's about time PEAK FM showed their hand aling with other journalists like Tooley. Come on Phil you probably know more than us! Croot and Warner aren't interested so it's up to u!

spireitenag, on 27 May 2016 - 10:27 PM, said:

There is only one simple resolution to this farce.

CT and LS resign their positions as directors of this company and the DC/PPP/Intenational Academy are then incorporated into the CFC Academy and run by Mark Smith and his colleagues in a proper professional manner.

Don't forget Turnipe is CEO at CFC! Position untenable!

[For your eyes only]

spireitenag, on 27 May 2016 - 10:27 PM, said:

There is only one simple resolution to this farce.

CT and LS resign their positions as directors of this company and the DC/PPP/Intenational Academy are then incorporated into the CFC Academy and run by Mark Smith and his colleagues in a proper professional manner.

I completely agree.
I have no idea who came up with the idea to ban the DT, and I wouldn't like to guess, but whoever it is has just shown their true colours.
Stupid and Childish.
Plus now from further impending reports (if there are any) no reply can be sought to be printed by the PPP or hypocritical would be an understatement.
I for one would tell them to do one if they approached me wanting to print a response!

Since the DT started raising concerns about the PPP, there have been refusals to acknowledge any wrong doing towards parents, scholars, and others involved in the PPP. It is diminished responsibility and people see through it. It just won't cut it anymore. They are not stupid yet think everyone else clearly is.
So instead of throwing hands up and saying 'yes we have totally f****d up and here's how we're going to sort it out',
the 'spokesman' lets one half of the fellowship/directorship talk absolute rubbish by blaming a cancelled tour THIS year on accounts filed for LAST year, defame coaches character after they've worked for the boys in the PPP for nearly FOUR months without pay in an email to parents, sit in the ivory tower across the road and congratulate himself of being the master of the IA universe... And then the other half blames coaches for leaving, says how disappointed he is they left when clearly nearly 4 months without pay wasn't enough of an insult, did he want 5? Or 6? Then would they have 'cared'?
Absolute disgrace.
And all this being looked over by a media guy and thinks all this to be a good idea????

The question that needs asking now, is has the trust been so completely breached that the positions of both directors is untenable as you said?
Who on this earth would trust these people?

This post has been edited by For your eyes only: 27 May 2016 - 11:54 PM

[Forever a Spireite]

I don't care about anyone else but me and my lad going nowhere near the Proact while Turnipe is there! My lads 12 and loves town like I do but he has to learn values and principles. You can still be a town fan without putting money in the Sheffield Mafias pocket! Turnipes recent interview last straw for me! I feel sorry for Danny and the lads or does he condone it perhaps he's part of Sheffield Mafia ! God knows what's hsppenning it's a mess that will only get worse. Brockwells quiet lol

[Lincs Spireite]

What's happened to the freedom of the press, or has our root vegatable invoked some sort of gagging order ?

[Guest_freelander2_*]

Sammy Spireite, on 27 May 2016 - 10:04 PM, said:

Things WILL be changing at the DC very soon, trust me.

The football club, however, is a different kettle of fish!!

I've absolutely no doubt that Sutcliffe will be the one left holding the baby.

[Stoptalkingbol]

Forever a Spireite, on 27 May 2016 - 11:16 PM, said:

Just read your post! I disagree surely Real journalists don't play to rules or they turn round and and say I'm not going to be gagged! Only one media outlet to be praised the DT. It's about time PEAK FM showed their hand aling with other journalists like Tooley. Come on Phil you probably know more than us! Croot and Warner aren't interested so it's up to u!


Don't forget Turnipe is CEO at CFC! Position untenable!

Tooley won't do anything as he's one of them. He's clearly been gagged from posting on here after his last effort or be relinquished of all his CFC perks of being in and around the club. Just for confirmation of this, we had the embarrassing facade of the early bird deadline being extended with in half an hour of our maverick Tooley giving a public tweet to the unsuspecting Carson, insisting the fans get given an extension, low and behold it happens straight away! They think the average fan is an idiot and continually put together fabricated nonsense like this. Unfortunately Phil has sold out as interviewing players and hosting the POTY awards is much more important than being an average joe fan.

[Guest_freelander2_*]

spireitenag, on 27 May 2016 - 10:27 PM, said:

There is only one simple resolution to this farce.

CT and LS resign their positions as directors of this company and the DC/PPP/Intenational Academy

Given everything that you were told in that meeting & everything you've subsequently heard from other stakeholders, what about their involvement with CFC?

[Westbars Spireite]

Bowzer spirey, on 28 May 2016 - 06:47 AM, said:

What's happened to the freedom of the press, or has our root vegatable invoked some sort of gagging order ?

The press are 'free' to do what they want within the law, as are CFC in banning them.

[valemadness]

Tylerdurdencfc, on 27 May 2016 - 09:47 PM, said:

Dear Messrs Dumb and Dumber

Having been a fan of my beloved local football club for the past 30years ('m 36 by the way) I have seen many ups and downs throughout my lifetime supporting the Spireites. Successes have included a Wembley play-off win, a FA-Cup semi-final, a JPT final and Runners-up, along with two league titles and another promotion. Failures have been many, from numerous relegations to attending meetings to save the club from behind wound-up, parting with my own hard earned cash when I couldn't really afford it at the time. I point these successes and failures out just in case you and your Sheffield Wednesday supporting entourage are not aware of all of our history over the past thirty years whilst I have been supporting my beloved club.

When you came into the club with the impressive new stadium and a platform to success I thought at last a brand new beginning for our 'great little club' as you so call describe it. How wrong could I be?

The club has been through dark dark times, late night meetings, people's ambition and drive and along with long unpaid hours kept this club afloat after nearly being destroyed by a crook. Local businesses accepted a mere few pence in the pound to keep the club afloat and rallied round to keep the club going. The club gained national interest through the CFSS as a club with the community at heart. I still thought our club had the community at heart until the last few years. These last few years have been very trying and you seem to have created great animosity towards the club from the local public, fans and angry parents by making monumental cocks up regarding the Running of the football club and the contempt shown to people with flawed and egotistical statements.

I won't go into the exact details of the problems involved with our club as at present I'm not sure either of you fully understand the fans view point. Well here is mine, in all of the thirty years of supporting CFC I've never felt so ashamed to be involved with this club. The lack of respect towards fans is utterly astounding. The fact the club has got itself tangled up in numerous issues off the field both locally and internationally and led to the national media being involved and damaging our reputation speaks volumes of the current incumbent. This along with the so called other SEPARATE entity (notice the large letters there just in case you over looked that point) and numerous other off field antics (fake sheikh as an example) and the clubs involvement with numerous questionable personnel have in my opinion left the current CEO's position as untenable.

As a resul of this and along with the dam right childish banning of the local paper trying to Fammouth out what the hell is going on has led me to question my current locality to my club and its current set up.

Unfortunately I have to accept that whilst the current CEO is in charge of the running of my beloved football club I feel that it is necessary not to attend anymore games or spend another penny towards supporting my beloved football club. I will be there in heart and mind and look out for the scores and still be passionate about my team but unfortunately I have no desire or willingness to attend games at present. This is supposedly a community club. Not a chance, it no longer cares.

I will remain absent whilst the current CEO is anywhere near my club. Fingers crossed I will be returning soon with my club still in tact.

Yours sincerely

A very disappointed fan.

I am assuming you are also sending this to the club and not just posting it here?

[dim view]

spireitenag, on 27 May 2016 - 10:27 PM, said:

There is only one simple resolution to this farce.

CT and LS resign their positions as directors of this company and the DC/PPP/Intenational Academy are then incorporated into the CFC Academy and run by Mark Smith and his colleagues in a proper professional manner.

Wouldn't that mean though that CFC would have to take over the debt?

The model must be preserved. Angry parents have to be compensated, venues have to be secured, coaches have to be happy.

The business should be run by Trustees, headed by a CFC Board member, who work for nowt. My choice would be Phil Taylor. And I suppose however unsavoury, he would have to get some money together to pay the debt and make the existing DC Directors an offer they can't refuse - as it was their idea and they own it.

This post has been edited by dim view: 28 May 2016 - 07:42 AM

[spireitenag]

dim view, on 28 May 2016 - 07:41 AM, said:

Wouldn't that mean though that CFC would have to take over the debt?

The model must be preserved. Angry parents have to be compensated, venues have to be secured, coaches have to be happy.

The business should be run by Trustees, headed by a CFC Board member, who work for nowt. My choice would be Phil Taylor. And I suppose however unsavoury, he would have to get some money together to pay the debt and make the existing DC Directors an offer they can't refuse - as it was their idea and they own it.

The only offer money wise I would want to see is:

Resign and we'll takeover and satisfy all the companies outstanding debts.

No one deserves to make a profit from this shambles.

[Goku]

Forever a Spireite, on 28 May 2016 - 12:40 AM, said:

I don't care about anyone else but me and my lad going nowhere near the Proact while Turnipe is there! My lads 12 and loves town like I do but he has to learn values and principles. You can still be a town fan without putting money in the Sheffield Mafias pocket! Turnipes recent interview last straw for me! I feel sorry for Danny and the lads or does he condone it perhaps he's part of Sheffield Mafia ! God knows what's hsppenning it's a mess that will only get worse. Brockwells quiet lol

Come on, this isn't cool, he's only 12 he won't be able to grasp half the stuff that's going on ATM.

[danblue]

freelander2, on 28 May 2016 - 06:48 AM, said:

I've absolutely no doubt that Sutcliffe will be the one left holding the baby.

Is LS as equaly bad as Turner in this debacle or is Turner the puppeteer? Has LS been fallen into line while CT pulls the strings? Is LS in so deep he has to dance to CT' s tune.
If LS was left to be left carrying the can, with Teflons non stick reputation, I'd immediately cut ties/resign/move to Mars/get as far away as possible.

TBH, I only skim over these posts as I'm more the football team than behind the scenes. Are people aiming more for CT (as they blame him) than LS or are they equal partners in this and therefore equally to blame?

[dim view]

danblue, on 28 May 2016 - 08:14 AM, said:

Is LS as equaly bad as Turner in this debacle or is Turner the puppeteer? Has LS been fallen into line while CT pulls the strings? Is LS in so deep he has to dance to CT' s tune.
If LS was left to be left carrying the can, with Teflons non stick reputation, I'd immediately cut ties/resign/move to Mars/get as far away as possible.

TBH, I only skim over these posts as I'm more the football team than behind the scenes. Are people aiming more for CT (as they blame him) than LS or are they equal partners in this and therefore equally to blame?

If I were owner I'd insist that my CEO had an impeccable CV, was anal about financial rigour, was risk averse on everything except for transfer investments where a certain amount of risk is unavoidable, and did not entertain shady characters. These people do exist.

[Wooden Spoon]

danblue, on 28 May 2016 - 08:14 AM, said:

Is LS as equaly bad as Turner in this debacle or is Turner the puppeteer? Has LS been fallen into line while CT pulls the strings? Is LS in so deep he has to dance to CT' s tune.
If LS was left to be left carrying the can, with Teflons non stick reputation, I'd immediately cut ties/resign/move to Mars/get as far away as possible.

TBH, I only skim over these posts as I'm more the football team than behind the scenes. Are people aiming more for CT (as they blame him) than LS or are they equal partners in this and therefore equally to blame?

Why would LS resign unless forced out? Why would CT leave CFC?




LS is an ex non league player, so wont have made any money as such from football. He isn't a name that can move because of his reputation. In football terms where else can he gain employment? For him, its here or Tesco's.




Extrapolate that to the root vegetable. He's a name, been a manager and CEO elsewhere, but failed at it. Until he came here he had been out of work and in the football wilderness. If he leaves CFC where else could he go? He wouldn't be employed as a manager anywhere, and if as a CEO he was booted out he would have 2 clubs where his tenure resulted in a massive increase in debts and termination of his employment. He would be out of the game, but possibly has enough money to retire.




In short, both men's incompetence and lack of ability means they wont leave CFC of their own accord. They cant, they have nowhere else to go.




LS will be the one who carries the can, while CT distances himself from the DC/PPP. He wont be going anywhere as he is protected by AC and DA. Until DA finds a buyer, we are stuck with the root vegetable and waiting for his next gaff.

[danblue]

a kick in the balls, on 28 May 2016 - 08:25 AM, said:

Why would LS resign unless forced out? Why would CT leave CFC?




LS is an ex non league player, so wont have made any money as such from football. He isn't a name that can move because of his reputation. In football terms where else can he gain employment? For him, its here or Tesco's.




Extrapolate that to the root vegetable. He's a name, been a manager and CEO elsewhere, but failed at it. Until he came here he had been out of work and in the football wilderness. If he leaves CFC where else could he go? He wouldn't be employed as a manager anywhere, and if as a CEO he was booted out he would have 2 clubs where his tenure resulted in a massive increase in debts and termination of his employment. He would be out of the game, but possibly has enough money to retire.




In short, both men's incompetence and lack of ability means they wont leave CFC of their own accord. They cant, they have nowhere else to go.




LS will be the one who carries the can, while CT distances himself from the DC/PPP. He wont be going anywhere as he is protected by AC and DA. Until DA finds a buyer, we are stuck with the root vegetable and waiting for his next gaff.

To me, this is the thing for LS. He must know if anything went/is going titty up, he will be the one out of the two left in the 'burning building' . CT will have his job for life as Allen's lap dog to fall back on as LS will have a, well...err....???
Now, I'm not defending LS- like I said in previous post, he could be equally to blame with everything- but I wouldn't want yo be thrown to the lions by CT.
I'd seriously just go before it gets worse for himself. It looks like it's only going one way. With some football experience he can retrain himself/ improve his qualifications and get a 'honest' job