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Posted 19 April 2016 - 09:21 PM

We usually park in the Donkey Derby no but tonight we parked in the tile place just further down. Got back to the car and had a parking ticket (all official in the plastic wrapper), but no other cars did from what I could see!
Has anyone else been ticketed/any problems parking there?
Cheers
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Posted 19 April 2016 - 09:23 PM

If it isn't council don't pay it.
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Posted 19 April 2016 - 09:26 PM

http://www.moneysavi...parking-tickets
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Posted 19 April 2016 - 10:01 PM

View Postdanblue, on 19 April 2016 - 09:21 PM, said:

We usually park in the Donkey Derby no but tonight we parked in the tile place just further down. Got back to the car and had a parking ticket (all official in the plastic wrapper), but no other cars did from what I could see!
Has anyone else been ticketed/any problems parking there?
Cheers


Putting something in plastic doesn't make it official.
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Posted 19 April 2016 - 10:06 PM

Without wanting to sound an bottom , it's a businesses private carpark, why would you park there, effectively on someone else's land?
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Posted 19 April 2016 - 10:09 PM

View Postdanblue, on 19 April 2016 - 09:21 PM, said:

We usually park in the Donkey Derby no but tonight we parked in the tile place just further down. Got back to the car and had a parking ticket (all official in the plastic wrapper), but no other cars did from what I could see!
Has anyone else been ticketed/any problems parking there?
Cheers

In sum:

If you have received a 'Penalty Charge Notice' ie from the Council or the Police, you need to pay it.
If you have received a 'Parking Charge Notice' ie issued by a private company, it can not be legally enforced (regardless of how official it looks) unless you are taken to court and they rule in favour of those who issued the ticket. Unless this happens they can not do a thing, even though they would likely arrange for a debt collection agency to call you etc. Of course they would need to find out your address first!!!

Assuming it is the latter you can chose to ignore it, or appeal it firstly via the operator and then (assuming your appeal is rejected) through POPLA. Even if POPLA rule in favour of the operator you can still chose to ignore and not pay the fine as POPLA can't enforce the fine.

I recently went through this and won my POPLA appeal against NCP Ltd. I'd suggest reading the link Marcia provided; it should all make sense.
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Posted 19 April 2016 - 10:36 PM

Just ignore all their letters, despite how threatening they start to get.

Had 9 months worth of them from lidl, even got a 'solicitors letter' which was just the same company trying to scare me

Not received anything else from them since January.
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Posted 20 April 2016 - 05:14 AM

View Postdanblue, on 19 April 2016 - 09:21 PM, said:

We usually park in the Donkey Derby no but tonight we parked in the tile place just further down. Got back to the car and had a parking ticket (all official in the plastic wrapper), but no other cars did from what I could see!
Has anyone else been ticketed/any problems parking there?
Cheers

We park there every game and never had a ticket.
And do as lindo says, i had one from doncaster airport, i had months of letters ect, phone calls from bayliff, nothing ever happened about it. Theres a organisation you mention to them and the crap there pants. I wouldnt worry about it
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Posted 20 April 2016 - 07:24 AM

Had one from Lidl once for apparently stopping over 2 hours when i was on my 1 hour lunch break! :rolleyes: I'd been into Lidl on Chatsworth Rd then to one of the shops on West Bars but the parking bloke only saw me coming back into the car park from West Bars so literally chased my car out of the car park to get my reg. This meant there was no ticket on the car but i received a notice in the post a week or so later. Bit of research including that link Marcia posted suggested how it would play out including the order the letters would arrive and just to ignore each one keeping them just in case. It happened exactly as planned including some ropey debt collector letter but after a couple of months all went quiet and it went away.

I think things have changed a little these days so worth checking but still stands that its all down to the parking people to prove that you've agreed to then broken the contract regarding parking there or something like that. I think they work on the basis a lot of folk will pay without checking as they make things look like official parking fines and demanding communication.
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Posted 20 April 2016 - 07:32 AM

View PostJonB, on 20 April 2016 - 07:24 AM, said:

Had one from Lidl once for apparently stopping over 2 hours when i was on my 1 hour lunch break! :rolleyes: I'd been into Lidl on Chatsworth Rd then to one of the shops on West Bars but the parking bloke only saw me coming back into the car park from West Bars so literally chased my car out of the car park to get my reg. This meant there was no ticket on the car but i received a notice in the post a week or so later. Bit of research including that link Marcia posted suggested how it would play out including the order the letters would arrive and just to ignore each one keeping them just in case. It happened exactly as planned including some ropey debt collector letter but after a couple of months all went quiet and it went away.

I think things have changed a little these days so worth checking but still stands that its all down to the parking people to prove that you've agreed to then broken the contract regarding parking there or something like that. I think they work on the basis a lot of folk will pay without checking as they make things look like official parking fines and demanding communication.

Lidl now have cameras on the entrance and exit, tried charging me £45 in "lost profits" for being 17 minutes late at 10pm, which then went up to £90 after 14 days lol
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Posted 20 April 2016 - 07:18 PM

View Postlindo-spireite, on 20 April 2016 - 07:32 AM, said:

Lidl now have cameras on the entrance and exit, tried charging me £45 in "lost profits" for being 17 minutes late at 10pm, which then went up to £90 after 14 days lol

As do wickes they photograph every car in and out with time anything over 2 hours they send a fine through the post
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Posted 20 April 2016 - 07:54 PM

View Postlindo-spireite, on 19 April 2016 - 10:36 PM, said:

Just ignore all their letters, despite how threatening they start to get.

Had 9 months worth of them from lidl, even got a 'solicitors letter' which was just the same company trying to scare me

Not received anything else from them since January.

Absolutely right ignore, bluff it out and tell them to take you to court and threaten to sue them for the stress and anguish. They'll soon back down.
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Posted 20 April 2016 - 08:01 PM

View Postdjs, on 20 April 2016 - 07:54 PM, said:

Absolutely right ignore, bluff it out and tell them to take you to court and threaten to sue them for the stress and anguish. They'll soon back down.

Correct
Ignore it They'll chase for awhile make a few threats, assuming that a % of people are weak and will crack.
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Posted 20 April 2016 - 08:05 PM

I enjoy getting a 'happy snap' of my car popping in and out of a prime location retail site.

Sadly for them they are never clear enough to show who's driving the thing should they ever have the balls to take me to court.

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 08:24 PM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 20 April 2016 - 08:05 PM, said:

I enjoy getting a 'happy snap' of my car popping in and out of a prime location retail site.

Sadly for them they are never clear enough to show who's driving the thing should they ever have the balls to take me to court.


Do these private companies make their money from most folk not having the spuds to ignore the letters and just pay up for peace of mind? We had one a couple of years back from the services at 29a. Binned it and a follow up letter then heard nothing since.
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Posted 20 April 2016 - 08:29 PM

View PostStoptalkingbol, on 20 April 2016 - 08:24 PM, said:

Do these private companies make their money from most folk not having the spuds to ignore the letters and just pay up for peace of mind? We had one a couple of years back from the services at 29a. Binned it and a follow up letter then heard nothing since.


Yes. I imagine their 'strike-rate' is fairly decent from ill-informed and fearful motorists. Not that it would probably need to be to cover costs and make a cheap profit.

All they have to do is put a sign up (the more vague the better) and then invest in a camera or two or employ a chap on minimum wage plus commission and Bob's your uncle.

I've probably ignored 20+ and get a perverted sense of satisfaction knowing it costs them money to send me scrap paper. Shame more of them aren't on Twitter so they can be taunted with images of their letters being set alight.

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