[sophocles]

 metallilad, on 15 April 2016 - 09:02 PM, said:

Ok.??? Where have I said that my choice of song is perfect? In fact where have I put a choice of song in????
I mentioned that we sing that the blue flag flies from Saltergate to Wembley, but never said that we HAVE to sing that.
"Sailing" is a cheesy seventies song and (like I said) we are now in a new era, stadium so why not let the new kop choose a new anthem? Sailing hasn't always been sung at our games so why are we wanting it now? Because the middle aged to old supporters are wanting to revisit the time they sung it that time at Saltergate when they were younger and it made them feel good.
Why don't they just listen to it when they sit on their Harley Davidson in the garage. #midlifecrisis

Seems to me you have a bit of a problem with age/being old. How old do you think something should be allowed to get before it's ditched for something new? Do we need to replace everything after a couple of years because it's old? CFC itself is way over 100 years old; do you want it liquidated because it's so old, and replaced with something more modern? Innovation and change is important to keep things fresh and alive, but there is also a need for traditions to be retained; as in life in general, it's all a question of balance. Sorry to point it out, but (if you're lucky), YOU will get old; as somebody once said, getting old isn't much to look forward to, but the alternative is even less attractive (or words to that effect).

[DerbySpireite59]

I can't recall us ever singing sailing at saltergate. We are spireites, super blues to the tune of sailing, yes, I think I recall. I like the togetherness and depth of meaning when we do sing sailing, being faithful to its correct lyrics. I think it may have surfaced soon after Rod Stewart gigged at the Proact. Or was it the B2net? Oh time does fly eh?

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

 metallilad, on 15 April 2016 - 09:02 PM, said:

Ok.??? Where have I said that my choice of song is perfect? In fact where have I put a choice of song in????
I mentioned that we sing that the blue flag flies from Saltergate to Wembley, but never said that we HAVE to sing that.
"Sailing" is a cheesy seventies song and (like I said) we are now in a new era, stadium so why not let the new kop choose a new anthem? Sailing hasn't always been sung at our games so why are we wanting it now? Because the middle aged to old supporters are wanting to revisit the time they sung it that time at Saltergate when they were younger and it made them feel good.
Why don't they just listen to it when they sit on their Harley Davidson in the garage. #midlifecrisis

West Ham are also ditching "we're forever blowing bubbles" when they move to their new ground as well.

[60s 70s Spireite]

 Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 15 April 2016 - 09:38 PM, said:

West Ham are also ditching "we're forever blowing bubbles" when they move to their new ground as well.

Presumably providing David Sullivan gives strict instructions to the stewards to jump on anyone who dare sing the opening bar? Or stop anyone over 45 trying to enter the ground. Mind it does date back to about 1918.

More likely you jest.

[metallilad]

 sophocles, on 15 April 2016 - 09:18 PM, said:

Seems to me you have a bit of a problem with age/being old. How old do you think something should be allowed to get before it's ditched for something new? Do we need to replace everything after a couple of years because it's old? CFC itself is way over 100 years old; do you want it liquidated because it's so old, and replaced with something more modern? Innovation and change is important to keep things fresh and alive, but there is also a need for traditions to be retained; as in life in general, it's all a question of balance. Sorry to point it out, but (if you're lucky), YOU will get old; as somebody once said, getting old isn't much to look forward to, but the alternative is even less attractive (or words to that effect).

The blue flag that flies high is from Saltergate to Wembley.
Why do you want to ignore that?
The rest you've said is just bo**ocks.
I've got no problem with getting old. I'm middle aged myself, stood on Saltergate kop when that song was being sung by a few because everybody else grew out of it, now a certain amount want it back? Just to keep a hold of a traditional song that was sung for a short while just to retain a youthful memory? The tradition is the blue flag. The future is the new "kop choir".
So what are you gonna do? Sit in the family stand listening to them sing a seventies cheesy pop song and tell your child that you used to sing it? Honestly. How many times can you remember it being sung in the nineties and noughties? It's not our "anthem" and never really has been.

[metallilad]

 Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 15 April 2016 - 09:38 PM, said:

West Ham are also ditching "we're forever blowing bubbles" when they move to their new ground as well.

They sing that song every home match and have done for years and years. We've only just started singing that song cos a middle aged midlife crisis victim wanted his youth back.

[metallilad]

Red dot jockeys are in force tonight.
Carry on folk, I've got hundreds of green uns to get rid of.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

 metallilad, on 15 April 2016 - 10:27 PM, said:

They sing that song every home match and have done for years and years. We've only just started singing that song cos a middle aged midlife crisis victim wanted his youth back.

Town sung sailing for quite a lot of years. Whether you me or anyone else likes it, the club needs an identity. I wanna go home and bla blas a shythole just doesn't cut it.

[metallilad]

 Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 15 April 2016 - 10:36 PM, said:

Town sung sailing for quite a lot of years. Whether you me or anyone else likes it, the club needs an identity. I wanna go home and bla blas a shythole just doesn't cut it.

Ive been going for over thirty years now and can honestly say that I didn't hear that song being sung before a match, during a match like "bubbles" or "walk alone" etc get sung. They are anthems, identities. A song that rears up once in a blue moon isn't an identity.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

 metallilad, on 15 April 2016 - 10:51 PM, said:

Ive been going for over thirty years now and can honestly say that I didn't hear that song being sung before a match, during a match like "bubbles" or "walk alone" etc get sung. They are anthems, identities. A song that rears up once in a blue moon isn't an identity.

I said we need one

[Middle East]

Not strictly anthems but I'm certainly hoping for a few renditions today of those quaint old folk songs us old un's used to enjoy like 'build a bonfire' and 'all Yorkshirmen are'.....if they're not too outdated of course!!!


God I hate the blunts COME ON YOU BLUES.......

[metallilad]

 Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 16 April 2016 - 06:13 AM, said:

I said we need one

"Town sung sailing for quite a lot of years."

That is what you started your post with and that's what I replied to. Where have I said that we shouldn't have an anthem or identity? Cos as far as I'm aware I haven't so your argument is a poor one this time.

[Nitrous Oxide]

It could be argued this is a pointless thread as the muppet who is in charge of prematch music will play whatever he wants right up to kick off, killing any chance of an atmospheric build up but I look forward to hearing Pete leading the choir, trying to sing over it.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

 metallilad, on 16 April 2016 - 06:36 AM, said:

"Town sung sailing for quite a lot of years."

That is what you started your post with and that's what I replied to. Where have I said that we shouldn't have an anthem or identity? Cos as far as I'm aware I haven't so your argument is a poor one this time.

You have implied sailing has come out of the blue which it hasn't it's been around for many years. I'm saying the club needs an identity whether that is sailing or not. It's the closest thing we have to one and anything new will take how long before it is embedded into the club? Very few new songs are generated nowadays and they are usually one line or 2 line chants that fade or finish before the rest of the crowd get time to join in. Atmosphere dies when people create brief bursts of songs as one the rest of the crowd don't know what is being chanted and two the 20 or so that make them up change the words. Eg you hav half singing Zidane and half singing Zlatan in the Novak song. It's very difficult to get the ground singing unless you involve some older songs. Some of our older fans in the west and east stands will know them better and might teach and encourage their kids to sing, especially on a derby day like today. I sit on the kop so hear the new ones and to be honest some of them are embarrassing. If you want the ground to rock then there has to be a mix of songs to encourage engagement the anti oldies message does exactly the opposite.

[DIFH]

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 Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 16 April 2016 - 09:15 AM, said:

You have implied sailing has come out of the blue which it hasn't it's been around for many years. I'm saying the club needs an identity whether that is sailing or not. It's the closest thing we have to one and anything new will take how long before it is embedded into the club? Very few new songs are generated nowadays and they are usually one line or 2 line chants that fade or finish before the rest of the crowd get time to join in. Atmosphere dies when people create brief bursts of songs as one the rest of the crowd don't know what is being chanted and two the 20 or so that make them up change the words. Eg you hav half singing Zidane and half singing Zlatan in the Novak song. It's very difficult to get the ground singing unless you involve some older songs. Some of our older fans in the west and east stands will know them better and might teach and encourage their kids to sing, especially on a derby day like today. I sit on the kop so hear the new ones and to be honest some of them are embarrassing. If you want the ground to rock then there has to be a mix of songs to encourage engagement the anti oldies message does exactly the opposite.

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[metallilad]

 Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 16 April 2016 - 09:15 AM, said:

You have implied sailing has come out of the blue which it hasn't it's been around for many years. I'm saying the club needs an identity whether that is sailing or not. It's the closest thing we have to one and anything new will take how long before it is embedded into the club? Very few new songs are generated nowadays and they are usually one line or 2 line chants that fade or finish before the rest of the crowd get time to join in. Atmosphere dies when people create brief bursts of songs as one the rest of the crowd don't know what is being chanted and two the 20 or so that make them up change the words. Eg you hav half singing Zidane and half singing Zlatan in the Novak song. It's very difficult to get the ground singing unless you involve some older songs. Some of our older fans in the west and east stands will know them better and might teach and encourage their kids to sing, especially on a derby day like today. I sit on the kop so hear the new ones and to be honest some of them are embarrassing. If you want the ground to rock then there has to be a mix of songs to encourage engagement the anti oldies message does exactly the opposite.

It's a song that should've been left back at Saltergate.........in the 80's.

Because the middle aged to old supporters are wanting to revisit the time they sung it that time at Saltergate when they were younger and it made them feel good.

I'm middle aged myself, stood on Saltergate kop when that song was being sung by a few because everybody else grew out of it, now a certain amount want it back?

We've only just started singing that song cos a middle aged midlife crisis victim wanted his youth back.



There are four different quotes there proving that I haven't implied that it's come out of the blue, admitted that it used to be sung occasionally in the eighties. Why wasn't it sung as "our anthem" when we were at Old Trafford? All those Wembley trips we've took? Was it our anthem when we were promoted during the Nicky Law era? What about when we stayed up after the Luton match? That would've been a great time to sing our club anthem.

Like I said. It was sung in the early eighties then dropped in the nineties and noughties. It's only been suggested now because a middle aged person wants to relive the days of old then get arsey when it's pointed out to them that a new generation of supporters could choose a new anthem.
Look. We sing a song that still mentions Saltergate in it even though we are in our new ground approx 2 miles away from the Proact so we still keep the nostalgia going, our spiritual home lives on. Most of us are family people now, look at our children to carry on supporting our club so why do people get upset when I suggest that we let our offspring choose an anthem for the new era of our club?

[DIFH]

 metallilad, on 16 April 2016 - 10:01 AM, said:

It's a song that should've been left back at Saltergate.........in the 80's.

Because the middle aged to old supporters are wanting to revisit the time they sung it that time at Saltergate when they were younger and it made them feel good.

I'm middle aged myself, stood on Saltergate kop when that song was being sung by a few because everybody else grew out of it, now a certain amount want it back?

We've only just started singing that song cos a middle aged midlife crisis victim wanted his youth back.



There are four different quotes there proving that I haven't implied that it's come out of the blue, admitted that it used to be sung occasionally in the eighties. Why wasn't it sung as "our anthem" when we were at Old Trafford? All those Wembley trips we've took? Was it our anthem when we were promoted during the Nicky Law era? What about when we stayed up after the Luton match? That would've been a great time to sing our club anthem.

Like I said. It was sung in the early eighties then dropped in the nineties and noughties. It's only been suggested now because a middle aged person wants to relive the days of old then get arsey when it's pointed out to them that a new generation of supporters could choose a new anthem.
Look. We sing a song that still mentions Saltergate in it even though we are in our new ground approx 2 miles away from the Proact so we still keep the nostalgia going, our spiritual home lives on. Most of us are family people now, look at our children to carry on supporting our club so why do people get upset when I suggest that we let our offspring choose an anthem for the new era of our club?

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[60s 70s Spireite]

 metallilad, on 16 April 2016 - 10:01 AM, said:

It's a song that should've been left back at Saltergate.........in the 80's.

Because the middle aged to old supporters are wanting to revisit the time they sung it that time at Saltergate when they were younger and it made them feel good.

I'm middle aged myself, stood on Saltergate kop when that song was being sung by a few because everybody else grew out of it, now a certain amount want it back?

We've only just started singing that song cos a middle aged midlife crisis victim wanted his youth back.



There are four different quotes there proving that I haven't implied that it's come out of the blue, admitted that it used to be sung occasionally in the eighties. Why wasn't it sung as "our anthem" when we were at Old Trafford? All those Wembley trips we've took? Was it our anthem when we were promoted during the Nicky Law era? What about when we stayed up after the Luton match? That would've been a great time to sing our club anthem.

Like I said. It was sung in the early eighties then dropped in the nineties and noughties. It's only been suggested now because a middle aged person wants to relive the days of old then get arsey when it's pointed out to them that a new generation of supporters could choose a new anthem.
Look. We sing a song that still mentions Saltergate in it even though we are in our new ground approx 2 miles away from the Proact so we still keep the nostalgia going, our spiritual home lives on. Most of us are family people now, look at our children to carry on supporting our club so why do people get upset when I suggest that we let our offspring choose an anthem for the new era of our club?

An observation. The reds seem to be going mostly to you, and the greens tend to be going to those who, in general, say it's the only hope we have of the whole home support singing as one. And this on a medium more suited to a younger generation than the old gits.

[DIFH]

 Nitrous Oxide, on 15 April 2016 - 08:09 PM, said:

We can join in and sing that with them.

We don't need goals we can start that one from the off.

Remember the spireites chanting ' Bond Out' at Burnley many years ago and we were roundly applauded by the home fans:unsure:

[metallilad]

We might as well change the words to "We are sinking".