[brockwell-spireite]

a kick in the balls, on 31 March 2016 - 10:00 PM, said:

Do you think Dennis Bingham is someone CFC ought to be wary of?

i think DB has no more to do with CFC if the statement is anything to go by, i still don't think i know everything that certain members of this board do when it comes to him, mind you... it appears to be a full time job for the "sleuths" on here!

[Wooden Spoon]

Mr Mercury, on 31 March 2016 - 10:02 PM, said:

Don't you think it's strange that an International company in the oil trade can only be contacted by sending them an online message and then hoping they get in touch with you?

The resident root vegetable clearly thinks this is the normal way international trade is carried out

[brockwell-spireite]

Stockholm Spireite, on 31 March 2016 - 10:07 PM, said:

Just bear with me, I know they've been re-branded as the New York Red Bulls, but I have a pal in the "front office" over there.

I'll drop him a line and report back, either here or by PM to those who are in contact with the club.

about what? whether he played for the metro stars? what has that got to do with anything? have i missed something?

Mr Mercury, on 31 March 2016 - 10:02 PM, said:

Don't you think it's strange that an International company in the oil trade can only be contacted by sending them an online message and then hoping they get in touch with you?

i can honestly say i have never done any business in the oil trade so industry norms wouldn't be an area of expertise for me!

[Wooden Spoon]

brockwell-spireite, on 31 March 2016 - 10:08 PM, said:

i think DB has no more to do with CFC if the statement is anything to go by, i still don't think i know everything that certain members of this board do when it comes to him, mind you... it appears to be a full time job for the "sleuths" on here!

your doing very well at not answering questions directly when it comes to Bingham.




Do you think he is someone CFC should be wary of?

[brockwell-spireite]

a kick in the balls, on 31 March 2016 - 10:16 PM, said:

your doing very well at not answering questions directly when it comes to Bingham.




Do you think he is someone CFC should be wary of?

As i said, i don't know half as much as certain people on this board, i follow the threads on here now and theres certainly some questions to answer regarding name changes and business addresses... i still don't see any evidence that he was trying to take over CFC though i think thats a massive leap if the evidence on here is all i have to go on.

[moondog]

brockwell-spireite, on 31 March 2016 - 10:21 PM, said:

As i said, i don't know half as much as certain people on this board, i follow the threads on here now and theres certainly some questions to answer regarding name changes and business addresses... i still don't see any evidence that he was trying to take over CFC though i think thats a massive leap if the evidence on here is all i have to go on.

Nobody has said he was trying to take over the club at this stage, but what's your take on the sponsorship?

[Mr Mercury]

brockwell-spireite, on 31 March 2016 - 10:11 PM, said:

about what? whether he played for the metro stars? what has that got to do with anything? have i missed something?



i can honestly say i have never done any business in the oil trade so industry norms wouldn't be an area of expertise for me!

Ok then, so don't you think it's strange that any company, even small local businesses, never mind ones claiming to be multi national, touting custom, can only be contacted by sending an online message then hoping they get back to you.
Even my window cleaner has a buisness card with both an e mail address and a home and mobile number were you can talk directly with him.

[brockwell-spireite]

moondog, on 31 March 2016 - 10:26 PM, said:

So are you saying Bingham works in the oil trade ?

how do you get that from my answer? i have no idea!

[moondog]

Mr Mercury, on 31 March 2016 - 10:32 PM, said:

Ok then, so don't you think it's strange that any company, even small local businesses, never mind ones claiming to be multi national, touting custom, can only be contacted by sending an online message then hoping they get back to you.
Even my window cleaner has a buisness card with both an e mail address and a home and mobile number were you can talk directly with him.

and what business would prefer to say more about its financial stability than what it actually does ?

[brockwell-spireite]

Mr Mercury, on 31 March 2016 - 10:32 PM, said:

Ok then, so don't you think it's strange that any company, even small local businesses, never mind ones claiming to be multi national, touting custom, can only be contacted by sending an online message then hoping they get back to you.
Even my window cleaner has a buisness card with both an e mail address and a home and mobile number were you can talk directly with him.

LOTS of companies have very basic email addresses and websites just for an online presence... i don't know the first thing about the oil business... but if i were to speculate i'm not sure how much business is done by companies searching for each other online.. and i will say again...because it seems some people misintepret very easily.. i have no idea about the oil business or Royal Pearl's business!

moondog, on 31 March 2016 - 10:36 PM, said:

and what business would prefer to say more about its financial stability than what it actually does ?

surely you have checked the companies accounts? what do they say?

didn't you say to me the other day along the lines of you didnt think it was a leap to suggest he was trying to build up confidence within the club with a view to taking it over?

This post has been edited by brockwell-spireite: 31 March 2016 - 10:48 PM

[Guest_freelander2_*]

The numbers involved shouldn't have come as any surprise


Source: http://www.mbnews.it...pitalizzazione/

Date: 12/12/14

*Translated Article*


The Soccer Monza is Dennis Bingham, but there is the "yellow" on recapitalization

The English entrepreneur Dennis Bingham is now the new owner Associazione Calcio Monza Brianza 1912. However, it remains unclear whether he will be again tomorrow. The white and clubs, in fact, has not yet been recapitalised for 1 million and 158,270 euro, as required for extraordinary shareholders' meeting.

Bingham, owner of Royal Pearl International Llc (transport and services company based in Oman), had long been in negotiations with compatriot Anthony Armstrong-Emery, who hoped to the last to solve the financial problems of its multinational Ecohouse Group, and then to restore the path of '99 Boys sodality. At about 32 hours after the deadline for recapitalization, who a year and seven months ago bought the Monza doing dreaming, more thanks to "shoot" in effect to concrete facts, thousands of fans had to raise the white flag and accept that the company does not start towards bankruptcy or liquidation. He had tried to convince Bingham to leave 50% of LuckySeven, the company that until now was the owner of the football club, but the fellow did not want to divide the Monza with an investigation for serious tax and administrative offenses. And at the end LuckySeven, including the attic in the central offshore IV Novembre, remained letterhead to "AAE", while Bingham bought directly the AC Monza Brianza 1912 for one euro, also noting the debts, which seems to circumvent around 2 million and 200 thousand euro. the deal was closed around 16 in a law firm in Milan in the presence of various lawyers and notaries. Of the three members of the Board of Directors was present at Monza the only managing director Cristiano Perrotti, while the president was connected from the usual hotels in Ras Al-Khaimah, United Arab Emirates, and the CEO Carlo Maurizio Prada, already resigned from loads the day before , was in Piedmont for professional commitments. At 16:44 Bingham posted to their Facebook profile with a picture of the present table full of documents and the inscription "President", as if to announce the change of ownership happened Monza. To become president must convene a Shareholders' Meeting as a shareholder and "crown himself." As for Prada and Perrotti, is likely to be replaced in the Board by former footballer italoaustraliano Maurizio Antonio, called "Morris", Pagniello and Piervittorio Belfanti both multitasking and entrepreneurs both former owners of Trento in 1921 (failed under their management.) on the good end of the change of ownership, however, hangs a "sword of Damocles": tomorrow the period for subscription of the capital increase and any actions ( in total 120 thousand) not subscribed by Bingham in the exercise of option rights they may be subscribed by third parties within the additional period of 15 days.

The "rumors" circulating are worrying: the British entrepreneur was seeking a legal way to defer the recapitalization. Stuff from "Superhero" of finance. The mortals are wondering how you could have to get around than in black and white in the minutes of the Extraordinary Shareholders' Meeting filed in the Commercial Register. Here are the key points: "The subscription of the capital increase should take place within a period of 15 days starting from the enrollment of this resolution in the Commercial Register and its publication in the Company's website; the increase in capital is indivisible; any shares not subscribed by the shareholder in the exercise of option rights may be subscribed by third parties, within the additional period of 15 days from the failure to exercise the right of option within the period granted by or otherwise surrender to it; when subscriptions will i perform these payments as if law and therefore for the whole with respect to the share premium and at least 25% with respect to the capital . " Therefore, given that the share capital shall be reconstituted to 120 thousand euro, by tomorrow Bingham should be paid at least 1 million and 068,270 euro , while only the remaining 90 thousand euro would be admitted the delay. The three main roped that pointed to the subscription of the capital increase next week they feel crushed and in some cases are imbufalite. we are talking about the Lombardy and Veneto composed mainly of a wine entrepreneur Padua (with activities in the Treviso) and a property developer, the Brianza, which has to guide the entrepreneur multitasking Pierluigi Brivio and he sees in the team's cousin Mario Rocca, president of Cave Rock (concrete), and Davide Luciano, owner of CMB Real Estate, the Italian-Swiss formed mainly dall'elvetica FGR General Enterprise (asset management), from Persichetti Group (construction) and Angelo Narducci Prisma Construction and ingaggerebbe as technical director of the Chiasso the current coach and former player from Bari, Juventus, Barcelona and AC Milan, as well as world champion with the national team, Gianluca Zambrotta. it is not possible that someone unleashed a legal battle to shed light on this ambiguous change of ownership. It is certain that in the coming days if they see some good. The recapitalization delayed, even if it were permissible, would drag with it serious problems, starting from the use of the first funds. By next Tuesday, in fact, employees should collect the salaries of September and October in order not to incur penalties now. The move would also help to stop the commissioning procedure initiated by the players arrears on 6 November. But then who would stop most numerous creditors who in recent weeks have postponed their bankruptcy petitions hoping Dicembrino recapitalization? And the City would the courage to postpone once again a strong stance against those who do not respect the commitments? Only last Thursday was approved in a Council resolution by which you establish a new coating of claims of Monza. "the new owner of the club must now show goodwill - warns the managing director of Sport, Silvano Appiani - we do not make fun: we want certainties. It is also the good name of the city. " All this hubbub swoops among others on the team behind the home games against Arezzo (Sunday at 16) and against Torres (recovering Wednesday at 14:30) : coach Fulvio Pea has the difficult task of clearing the head and legs of the players on what happens to Monzelli sports center in the coming days.

[moondog]

brockwell-spireite, on 31 March 2016 - 10:38 PM, said:

LOTS of companies have very basic email addresses and websites just for an online presence... i don't know the first thing about the oil business... but if i were to speculate i'm not sure how much business is done by companies searching for each other online.. and i will say again...because it seems some people misintepret very easily.. i have no idea about the oil business or Royal Pearl's business!



surely you have checked the companies accounts? what do they say?

the accounts can't be checked because there is no trace of the company beyond the website and an advertising hoarding at our stadium. The company registration number quoted on the website just like the address isn't valid

[Mr Mercury]

brockwell-spireite, on 31 March 2016 - 10:38 PM, said:

LOTS of companies have very basic email addresses and websites just for an online presence... i don't know the first thing about the oil business... but if i were to speculate i'm not sure how much business is done by companies searching for each other online.. and i will say again...because it seems some people misintepret very easily.. i have no idea about the oil business or Royal Pearl's business!



surely you have checked the companies accounts? what do they say?

Give me one example of a reputable company that can only be contacted in this way, I'll bet you can't.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 31 March 2016 - 10:44 PM

[moondog]

brockwell-spireite, on 31 March 2016 - 10:38 PM, said:

LOTS of companies have very basic email addresses and websites just for an online presence... i don't know the first thing about the oil business... but if i were to speculate i'm not sure how much business is done by companies searching for each other online.. and i will say again...because it seems some people misintepret very easily.. i have no idea about the oil business or Royal Pearl's business!



surely you have checked the companies accounts? what do they say?

didn't you say to me the other day along the lines of you didnt think it was a leap to suggest he was trying to build up confidence within the club with a view to taking it over?

Yes I did offer my opinion on what I believed this was leading up to

[brockwell-spireite]

Mr Mercury, on 31 March 2016 - 10:43 PM, said:

Give me one example of a reputable company that can only be contacted in this way, I'll bet you can't.

if i wasn't watching peaky blinders i could probably find at least one...

reading the translated version of these articles could give an asprin a headache!!

[azul]

a kick in the balls, on 29 March 2016 - 11:06 PM, said:

Cheers. He will be getting a call tomorrow.

Add to that, where isnTooley? A true CFC man, a part time but committed journo? Why have we had no questioned from him? Surely this really is an issue that Tooleys should be all over

Did you contact John Croot?

[Wooden Spoon]

azul, on 01 April 2016 - 12:11 AM, said:

Did you contact John Croot?

Yeah, he wasn't available

[Eastander]

a kick in the balls, on 01 April 2016 - 05:51 PM, said:

Yeah, he wasn't available

What a surprise !

[azul]

It'll be an exciting read in the programme tomorrow as "Liam Sutcliffe talks about the new international faces at CFC Village"

Bad publicity, not a chance, not where CT and LS are concerned - Loud and Proud

This post has been edited by azul: 02 April 2016 - 01:14 AM

[Wooden Spoon]

brockwell-spireite said:

1459462911[/url]' post='1198550']
As i said, i don't know half as much as certain people on this board, i follow the threads on here now and theres certainly some questions to answer regarding name changes and business addresses... i still don't see any evidence that he was trying to take over CFC though i think thats a massive leap if the evidence on here is all i have to go on.

The take over issue wasn't the question I asked.

Is Dennis Bingham someone CFC ought to be wary of?