[FORZA AZZURRI]

Great action from iplayer now on utube

[plannerj]

FORZA AZZURRI, on 13 January 2016 - 08:15 PM, said:

Great action from iplayer now on utube

This makes it all the more clear that the sending off was unjustified. Here we have a player who is running the opposition ragged. He doesn't need to dive and to my mind, he hasn't, at very least he hasn't twice. On the second count, the referee was a mile away and hardly in a position to have a clear view. No pow wow with the linesman this time. No time to think things through. No, off you go! Poor display from an official who was all at sea and just wanted to make the headlines.

[60s 70s Spireite]

plannerj, on 13 January 2016 - 08:45 PM, said:

This makes it all the more clear that the sending off was unjustified. Here we have a player who is running the opposition ragged. He doesn't need to dive and to my mind, he hasn't, at very least he hasn't twice. On the second count, the referee was a mile away and hardly in a position to have a clear view. No pow wow with the linesman this time. No time to think things through. No, off you go! Poor display from an official who was all at sea and just wanted to make the headlines.

There is superb view of the first booking on the 'alternative away day' video on Player. It's clear that Bolly is fouled, as their player stands on his foot. I still suspect Bolly is the first home league player to be sent off for two dives, which in itself tells us a story.

[60s 70s Spireite]

60s 70s Spireite, on 13 January 2016 - 08:52 PM, said:

There is superb view of the first booking on the 'alternative away day' video on Player. It's clear that Bolly is fouled, as their player stands on his foot. I still suspect Bolly is the first home league player to be sent off for two dives, which in itself tells us a story.

To add to this, the red card is discussed in You are the ref, part 2 at about 8 min 35. (CPS look away now).
However they have not actually seen the two incidents, but correctly make the point 'how can the ref be absolutely sure'?
http://you-are-the-r...h-january-2016/

This post has been edited by 60s 70s Spireite: 13 January 2016 - 10:28 PM

[clarevoyant.]

60s 70s Spireite, on 13 January 2016 - 08:52 PM, said:

There is superb view of the first booking on the 'alternative away day' video on Player. It's clear that Bolly is fouled, as their player stands on his foot. I still suspect Bolly is the first home league player to be sent off for two dives, which in itself tells us a story.

So to summarise;-
Boli is having the game of his life.
He rides countless unpunished illegal attempts to halt his progress
He scores an excellent individual goal only to have it wrongly chalked off
His individual skill should have earned his side 2 penalties (lessons to be learnt on not over dramatising things though) only to come up against a ref (sic) who the previous week was made to look an idiot having wrongly awarded a pen for a blatant dive and was looking to make amends.
Instead of leaving the pitch to confidence boosting plaudits due to an excellent performance and desperate for the next game to carry on with this form he leaves as a villain wondering whether he'll be able to reclaim his place in the side.
He must be asking himself "what the f*** am I doing in this god damm country where people don't appear to understand soccer "

[60s 70s Spireite]

clarevoyant., on 13 January 2016 - 10:39 PM, said:

So to summarise;-
Boli is having the game of his life.
He rides countless unpunished illegal attempts to halt his progress
He scores an excellent individual goal only to have it wrongly chalked off
His individual skill should have earned his side 2 penalties (lessons to be learnt on not over dramatising things though) only to come up against a ref (sic) who the previous week was made to look an idiot having wrongly awarded a pen for a blatant dive and was looking to make amends.
Instead of leaving the pitch to confidence boosting plaudits due to an excellent performance and desperate for the next game to carry on with this form he leaves as a villain wondering whether he'll be able to reclaim his place in the side.
He must be asking himself "what the f*** am I doing in this god damm country where people don't appear to understand soccer "

All agreed. Though regarding the last sentence, Bolly has been in England since he was 8 or 9, so I am sure he knows all about our daft referees.

[Search & Destroy]

60s 70s Spireite, on 13 January 2016 - 10:49 PM, said:

All agreed. Though regarding the last sentence, Bolly has been in England since he was 8 or 9, so I am sure he knows all about our daft referees.

Is exaggeration the same as simulation?

[clarevoyant.]

Search and Destroy, on 13 January 2016 - 11:02 PM, said:

Is exaggeration the same as simulation?

What's this an Englishness test?

[dazcarrlegend]

That is a staggeringly good performance

[moondog]

FORZA AZZURRI, on 13 January 2016 - 08:15 PM, said:

Great action from iplayer now on utube

Are we trying to sell him ?

[Westbars Spireite]

moondog, on 14 January 2016 - 07:47 AM, said:

Are we trying to sell him ?

If he plays like that for six months I'm sure he'll sell himself. The fact the performance is being talked about as it is is that it's a massive uplift from his general contribution.

Until he can replicate it regularly he will be remain a curious case. The rest is down to him, with the management team's assistance.

[BigBlue]

Also noted is he isn't just a fair weather player. If you can still torment full backs on the wet sludgy pitches of winter and not look like your stood there freezing your nads off you'll go far in this country.

This post has been edited by BigBlue: 14 January 2016 - 09:04 AM

[eddymelt]

clarevoyant., on 13 January 2016 - 10:39 PM, said:

So to summarise;-
Boli is having the game of his life.
He rides countless unpunished illegal attempts to halt his progress
He scores an excellent individual goal only to have it wrongly chalked off
His individual skill should have earned his side 2 penalties (lessons to be learnt on not over dramatising things though) only to come up against a ref (sic) who the previous week was made to look an idiot having wrongly awarded a pen for a blatant dive and was looking to make amends.
Instead of leaving the pitch to confidence boosting plaudits due to an excellent performance and desperate for the next game to carry on with this form he leaves as a villain wondering whether he'll be able to reclaim his place in the side.
He must be asking himself "what the f*** am I doing in this god damm country where people don't appear to understand soccer "

A very, very good summary...

[boot]

I trust that the club is supplying video evidence to the relevant authorities to prove the injustice of the ban, although it can't be appealed against, and more importantly to highlight the poor performance of the referee. The rule that the injustice can't be appealed against because it is two yellows resulting in a red and a suspension is ludicrous. Can anybody explain the logic behind that?

This post has been edited by boot: 14 January 2016 - 01:36 PM

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

Sick of seeing players chuck themselves around like ballet dancers. I have friends who coach junior teams and this is being replicated by kids who think acting like a big girls blouse is something to aspire to.

As regards Gboly in particular, he goes down way too easy ( had done at least 3 times the week before). Beyond the fact that it's embarassing to see, it doesn't benefit us, as once you have a rep for it then referees won't often give genuine fouls because they think they're being mugged off. Just because someone treads on your toe it doesn't mean you have to go down like you've just been blasted with a 12 gauge shotgun.

He doesn't need to do it, and I hope that behind closed doors DW has had a quiet word in his shell-like.

[Search & Destroy]

KevinArnottsGoldenBoot, on 14 January 2016 - 01:46 PM, said:

Sick of seeing players chuck themselves around like ballet dancers. I have friends who coach junior teams and this is being replicated by kids who think acting like a big girls blouse is something to aspire to.

As regards Gboly in particular, he goes down way too easy ( had done at least 3 times the week before). Beyond the fact that it's embarassing to see, it doesn't benefit us, as once you have a rep for it then referees won't often give genuine fouls because they think they're being mugged off. Just because someone treads on your toe it doesn't mean you have to go down like you've just been blasted with a 12 gauge shotgun.

He doesn't need to do it, and I hope that behind closed doors DW has had a quiet word in his shell-like.

Yep cheating

[60s 70s Spireite]

KevinArnottsGoldenBoot, on 14 January 2016 - 01:46 PM, said:

Sick of seeing players chuck themselves around like ballet dancers. I have friends who coach junior teams and this is being replicated by kids who think acting like a big girls blouse is something to aspire to.

As regards Gboly in particular, he goes down way too easy ( had done at least 3 times the week before). Beyond the fact that it's embarassing to see, it doesn't benefit us, as once you have a rep for it then referees won't often give genuine fouls because they think they're being mugged off. Just because someone treads on your toe it doesn't mean you have to go down like you've just been blasted with a 12 gauge shotgun.

He doesn't need to do it, and I hope that behind closed doors DW has had a quiet word in his shell-like.

Have you ever tried running as fast as Bolly with someone stood on your foot?

[Lincs Spireite]

Part of the game nowadays unfortunately, if a player thinks he can gain something of an advantage for the team he will drop like a stone.

Not all players are built like a bulldozer.

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

60s 70s Spireite, on 14 January 2016 - 03:04 PM, said:

Have you ever tried running as fast as Bolly with someone stood on your foot?

Is that a joke question!?

He chucks himself on the floor. If you go to the match you will have seen this on plenty of ocasions. By all means support that kind of nonsense if you like. But don't be a hyporite and shout 'CHEAT'or moan when someone does it to us. Or be under any illusion that refs speak amongst themselves and know who is fond of rolling over and act accordingly.

An awful part of the modern game. The more people that get sent off for simulation and exaggeration the better in my opinion. Stamp it out of the game. It's embarassing to watch.

[JonB]

KevinArnottsGoldenBoot, on 14 January 2016 - 03:27 PM, said:

Is that a joke question!?

He chucks himself on the floor. If you go to the match you will have seen this on plenty of ocasions. By all means support that kind of nonsense if you like. But don't be a hyporite and shout 'CHEAT'or moan when someone does it to us. Or be under any illusion that refs speak amongst themselves and know who is fond of rolling over and act accordingly.

An awful part of the modern game. The more people that get sent off for simulation and exaggeration the better in my opinion. Stamp it out of the game. It's embarassing to watch.

But a ref has to be 100% certain they are "chucking themselves to the floor" and not sure you can say that about either occasion on Saturday.