[h again]

lindo-spireite, on 09 January 2016 - 11:17 PM, said:

Yes you did, can't be bothered to read back though.

I said nothing of the sort, as you very well know. Oldest trick in the book making accusations and then saying you can't be bothered to look back.

[Stoptalkingbol]

valemadness, on 09 January 2016 - 11:08 PM, said:

Do you actually know the difference? Sports science and medicine is rehab, fitness conditioning is to try and prevent the players having the rehab. Legal requirement to have a qualified sports science person, which is why Rodger came in and took over from Jamie. I'm not see why you can't see the difference between the roles, or do you think we should get rid of Mal and Jamie, leaving Rodger to do conditioning and physio/rehab for 28 senior players plus the physio/rehab for the youth team and academy as well? You are an absolute plank.

Name calling from a moderator of all people. Tut tut!

[RichThomps1]

h again, on 09 January 2016 - 11:24 PM, said:

I said nothing of the sort, as you very well know. Oldest trick in the book making accusations and then saying you can't be bothered to look back.

Yes you did h when you were banging on about having 3 fitness coaches.

[Guest_freelander2_*]

valemadness, on 09 January 2016 - 11:08 PM, said:

Do you actually know the difference? Sports science and medicine is rehab, fitness conditioning is to try and prevent the players having the rehab. Legal requirement to have a qualified sports science person, which is why Rodger came in and took over from Jamie. I'm not see why you can't see the difference between the roles, or do you think we should get rid of Mal and Jamie, leaving Rodger to do conditioning and physio/rehab for 28 senior players plus the physio/rehab for the youth team and academy as well? You are an absolute plank.

Just a point of correction:

It's a requirement to have a fully qualified (MCSP / SRP) Chartered Physiotherapist who can diagnose & treat injuries.

[Between The Sticks]

calvin plummers socks, on 09 January 2016 - 11:09 PM, said:

Are you guys taking the mick here or something?
We have 1 fitness coach (Mal Purchase)- regarded as one of the best in the business.

1 physio- Roger Wylde- this is a legal requirement-we have to have one-every club does.

1 sports therapist -Jamie Hewitt- a club legend who has been here for 20+ years. A requirement for any club having a Category standard Academy.

None will be expensive (don't know how much they are paid obviously but from experience the highest paid will 'only' be on £30k ish)

We probably sp*nk more on fines.

None of these can be or should be cut- ask any of the players and they will say they are indispensable

[Between The Sticks]

It is not that the club HAS to have a Physio, but that a qualified Physio has to be in attendance. The requirements for the Football League clubs differ from that of the Premier League in that the Premier League HAVE to employ a Physio.

[calvin plummers socks]

Between The Sticks, on 10 January 2016 - 08:27 AM, said:

It is not that the club HAS to have a Physio, but that a qualified Physio has to be in attendance. The requirements for the Football League clubs differ from that of the Premier League in that the Premier League HAVE to employ a Physio.

No every football league club has to have one.
You think we can do without?

[DIFH]

Stoptalkingbol, on 09 January 2016 - 11:40 PM, said:

Name calling from a moderator of all people. Tut tut!

Plenty of planks on bobs board - think she hit the nail on the head. 😀😁😂

[Between The Sticks]

calvin plummers socks, on 10 January 2016 - 08:42 AM, said:

No every football league club has to have one.
You think we can do without?

[dalekpete]

Interesting that one of the things Chris Morgan commented on upon joining us was that he was astonished at how well conditioned the squad was.

[DIFH]

That's surprising considering Atkinson back ground

[trickytrevsfanclub]

calvin plummers socks, on 09 January 2016 - 11:09 PM, said:

Are you guys taking the mick here or something?
We have 1 fitness coach (Mal Purchase)- regarded as one of the best in the business.

1 physio- Roger Wylde- this is a legal requirement-we have to have one-every club does.

1 sports therapist -Jamie Hewitt- a club legend who has been here for 20+ years. A requirement for any club having a Category standard Academy.

None will be expensive (don't know how much they are paid obviously but from experience the highest paid will 'only' be on £30k ish)

We probably sp*nk more on fines.

None of these can be or should be cut- ask any of the players and they will say they are indispensable

You do Jamie a disservice? He's actually been at the club over 30 years and made his first team debut all the way back in 1985. He had a brief spell in the wilderness at Donny but even so it's a pretty impressive statistic in modern football.

[DIFH]

trickytrevsfanclub, on 10 January 2016 - 12:21 PM, said:

You do Jamie a disservice? He's actually been at the club over 30 years and made his first team debut all the way back in 1985. He had a brief spell in the wilderness at Donny but even so it's a pretty impressive statistic in modern football.

He said 20+ now that might be 30 yrs

[calvin plummers socks]

trickytrevsfanclub, on 10 January 2016 - 12:21 PM, said:

You do Jamie a disservice? He's actually been at the club over 30 years and made his first team debut all the way back in 1985. He had a brief spell in the wilderness at Donny but even so it's a pretty impressive statistic in modern football.

Stand corrected!
Apologies - there's no bigger fan of Jamie than me!

dalekpete, on 10 January 2016 - 12:03 PM, said:

Interesting that one of the things Chris Morgan commented on upon joining us was that he was astonished at how well conditioned the squad was.

Good to hear!

[Spireite-Karl]

calvin plummers socks, on 10 January 2016 - 12:57 PM, said:

Stand corrected!
Apologies - there's no bigger fan of Jamie than me!

Maybe so, just don't go on Mastermind and chose him as your specialist subject

[Wooden Spoon]

h again said:

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I didn't, and I don't know. But we're losing money, the Chairman is still putting his hand in his pocket for running expenses, and we aren't going to cash in on any players for the foreseeable future.
You work it out.

calvin plummers socks, on 05 January 2016 - 01:41 PM, said:

lol I would never call him a 'mere' physio (thats what I qualified at Uni in).
Some staff may be dispensable but the physio, Jamie and a fitness pro certainly aren't.
There'll be a club doctor as well (but at lower league clubs it's usually on a consultancy/match by match basis


I realise it's a sensitive subject, which is why I put the 'physio' in inverted commas, and not the 'mere'.

No staff are dispensable in their own minds, but when the solids hit the fan, something has to give.

calvin plummers socks, on 05 January 2016 - 06:21 AM, said:

Now I know you're on a wind up!
Who do yo think should do these jobs then- unused subs??

A physio is a legal FA requirement

Jamie is (I believe) now looking after the Academy and reserves (vital to ensure their injuries are managed and looked after).

Mal Purchase is the S&C coach. Every club has a fitness coach now - again vital as its 2015 not 1976.

That's 3 members of staff- the average club physio earns around £30k a year- now that's not going to break a club.


Fair enough - like I said, you're the one who knows about these things. But sometime in the near future the club is going to have to take a much harder look at staffing levels, and you can be sure that every post then will prove to be just like these - indispensable. That's where the really difficult decisions start - it's called Management.

[DIFH]

a kick in the balls, on 10 January 2016 - 01:32 PM, said:

calvin plummers socks, on 05 January 2016 - 01:41 PM, said:

lol I would never call him a 'mere' physio (thats what I qualified at Uni in).
Some staff may be dispensable but the physio, Jamie and a fitness pro certainly aren't.
There'll be a club doctor as well (but at lower league clubs it's usually on a consultancy/match by match basis


I realise it's a sensitive subject, which is why I put the 'physio' in inverted commas, and not the 'mere'.

No staff are dispensable in their own minds, but when the solids hit the fan, something has to give.

calvin plummers socks, on 05 January 2016 - 06:21 AM, said:

Now I know you're on a wind up!
Who do yo think should do these jobs then- unused subs??

A physio is a legal FA requirement

Jamie is (I believe) now looking after the Academy and reserves (vital to ensure their injuries are managed and looked after).

Mal Purchase is the S&C coach. Every club has a fitness coach now - again vital as its 2015 not 1976.

That's 3 members of staff- the average club physio earns around £30k a year- now that's not going to break a club.


Fair enough - like I said, you're the one who knows about these things. But sometime in the near future the club is going to have to take a much harder look at staffing levels, and you can be sure that every post then will prove to be just like these - indispensable. That's where the really difficult decisions start - it's called Management.

That 30k is less than we pay to have the pitch relayed each season.

[calvin plummers socks]

a kick in the balls, on 10 January 2016 - 01:32 PM, said:

calvin plummers socks, on 05 January 2016 - 01:41 PM, said:

lol I would never call him a 'mere' physio (thats what I qualified at Uni in).
Some staff may be dispensable but the physio, Jamie and a fitness pro certainly aren't.
There'll be a club doctor as well (but at lower league clubs it's usually on a consultancy/match by match basis


I realise it's a sensitive subject, which is why I put the 'physio' in inverted commas, and not the 'mere'.

No staff are dispensable in their own minds, but when the solids hit the fan, something has to give.

calvin plummers socks, on 05 January 2016 - 06:21 AM, said:

Now I know you're on a wind up!
Who do yo think should do these jobs then- unused subs??

A physio is a legal FA requirement

Jamie is (I believe) now looking after the Academy and reserves (vital to ensure their injuries are managed and looked after).

Mal Purchase is the S&C coach. Every club has a fitness coach now - again vital as its 2015 not 1976.

That's 3 members of staff- the average club physio earns around £30k a year- now that's not going to break a club.


Fair enough - like I said, you're the one who knows about these things. But sometime in the near future the club is going to have to take a much harder look at staffing levels, and you can be sure that every post then will prove to be just like these - indispensable. That's where the really difficult decisions start - it's called Management.

Ok well we've established those 3 posts are part and parcel of a football club (how about goalkeeping coach? CEO? Media guy? Head of catering? Ebanks-Blake lol).
It's not very tasteful to discuss people losing jobs). Hopefully no one will have to - certainly when we make £3 million in a year from player sales.

[tedspireite]

KevinArnottsGoldenBoot, on 09 January 2016 - 03:16 PM, said:

SEB is waste of our budget imo.

He's not banging them in, he does'nt look that bothered about playing for us. I don't think he's as fit as he should be, and I'm not sure paying someone like him - fairly 'relaxed' - way more than the rest of the team is good for morale taking all the above into account.

Rather see the 4k a week better spent. Still got skills, just don't think he's good value.

[Wooden Spoon]

calvin plummers socks said:

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Ok well we've established those 3 posts are part and parcel of a football club (how about goalkeeping coach? CEO? Media guy? Head of catering? Ebanks-Blake lol).
It's not very tasteful to discuss people losing jobs). Hopefully no one will have to - certainly when we make £3 million in a year from player sales.

Apologies, I didn't make it clear. Those replies to your posts are from the court jester. I copied and pasted them to show he had indeed suggested they were not indispensable.