[Spireite-Karl]

Spire-Power, on 07 November 2015 - 12:23 AM, said:

Yes, it's important to impose ourselves from the beginning, get the first goal and not give them any encouragement. If we field a weakened side we are asking for trouble.

Agreed and that is my fear! IF we do the above we should be fine, though it doesn't fill me with great confidence from what I've witnessed so far this season and it's probably a good job we've not been drawn at home

Salford btw were fantastic from minute one to the last kick of the match and Nott's were embarrassingly awful. Their second goal was a real beauty and I jumped off the settee it was that special! As for County's front two, I have to agree with Azul, they were as bad as it gets (no touch, no desire, nothing!) and I'm glad we haven't got either on that showing and I used to be a fan of Stead's at that.

This post has been edited by Spireite-Karl: 07 November 2015 - 08:02 AM

[Westbars Spireite]

I'm pleased with that result. Warning posted.

[NOFX]

We tend to be slow starters which worries me. Dean saunders wasn't happy with the start of the second half against fleetwood

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

County were shockingly poor.

You'd have thought a front two of Stead and McLeod (who made E-B look like an Olympian athlete, by the way) would've meant plenty of service from the wings, however all Notts did was send long, pretty aimless punts from back to front. Indeed it was Salford playing the neater, more fluent stuff whilst the L2 outfit barely mustered an attempt on goal.

Our Nottingham neighbours spent big over the Summer recruiting a virtually new squad. On this evidence they'd have been better off signing the entire Salford line-up instead.

This post has been edited by MDCCCLXVI: 07 November 2015 - 09:35 AM

[dtp]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 06 November 2015 - 09:14 PM, said:

I think we should have signed him for one. Better and cheaper than Novak, he would have been our player and we'd have money over to get someone else in. You basing it on this one game as county fans thinks he's been very good?

And, I was always on the other side of the fence Ernie.

McCleod is the wrong side of 30 and cost £150k - that, alone, to me is £3k a week before you add on his wages.

The guy's playing in the wrong end of league 2 and doesn't look like going any higher during the remainder of his career.

[dtp]

Spireite-Karl, on 07 November 2015 - 08:01 AM, said:

Agreed and that is my fear! IF we do the above we should be fine, though it doesn't fill me with great confidence from what I've witnessed so far this season and it's probably a good job we've not been drawn at home

Salford btw were fantastic from minute one to the last kick of the match and Nott's were embarrassingly awful. Their second goal was a real beauty and I jumped off the settee it was that special! As for County's front two, I have to agree with Azul, they were as bad as it gets (no touch, no desire, nothing!) and I'm glad we haven't got either on that showing and I used to be a fan of Stead's at that.

"Fantastic" in so much as you enjoyed their long ball game?

Strange then that we appear to find every excuse for criticism if a town player passes the ball further than five yards.

Seriously, though, I thought Salford got it spot on by missing midfield out but having more players up top to challenge for the ball once it had been launched and then play their football in the final third - and it wasn't as if they had a giant up top either.

This, to me, was the basic difference- they committed men up front to challenge whereas PC's Plan B, or whoever's nowadays, still seemed to rely on just one or, at most, two players to beat five or six defenders.

[danblue]

MDCCCLXVI, on 07 November 2015 - 09:24 AM, said:

County were shockingly poor.

You'd have thought a front two of Stead and McLeod (who made E-B look like an Olympian athlete, by the way) would've meant plenty of service from the wings, however all Notts did was send long, pretty aimless punts from back to front. Indeed it was Salford playing the neater, more fluent stuff whilst the L2 outfit barely mustered an attempt on goal.

Our Nottingham neighbours spent big over the Summer recruiting a virtually new squad. On this evidence they'd have been better off signing the entire Salford line-up instead.

I know people criticize DS style of football- me personally I don't think it's as bad as people make out- but imagine watching the dross served up by Notts County week in week out. With the cash splashed on the squad I'd be highly disappointed.
BTW, I can't remember Saford keeper making a save- probably could have sat in the stands having a Bovril County were that bad

[Spireite-Karl]

dtp, on 07 November 2015 - 09:52 AM, said:

"Fantastic" in so much as you enjoyed their long ball game?

Strange then that we appear to find every excuse for criticism if a town player passes the ball further than five yards.

Seriously, though, I thought Salford got it spot on by missing midfield out but having more players up top to challenge for the ball once it had been launched and then play their football in the final third - and it wasn't as if they had a giant up top either.

This, to me, was the basic difference- they committed men up front to challenge whereas PC's Plan B, or whoever's nowadays, still seemed to rely on just one or, at most, two players to beat five or six defenders.

They ply their trade at the 7th level of English football, what did you expect them to play like... Barcelona
Town would have struggled against those lot last night as they were in your face from minute one, tackled hard yet fair, defended fantastically, played for each other and had an end product, doesn't take million pound players to win football matches when you have all this.

[dim view]

sophocles, on 06 November 2015 - 11:48 PM, said:

Sorry, I forgot what a delicate, sensitive soul you are. When you've finished sobbing in the corner maybe you would answer the question.

Yes, I still hold the same view. I would field our strongest team apart from SEB and Novak, who would be on the bench in case of emergency. Mani is on fire so, in my opinion, it presents a great opportunity for him. I don't think it amounts to disrespecting the opposition.

[fishini]

dim view, on 06 November 2015 - 10:49 PM, said:

How terribly hurtful. Only Fishini has exhibited the same level of wit. Are you related?. I haven't upset you have I?.

Obsessed. You sad thing. Once upon a time i would have called you an idiot

[dim view]

MDCCCLXVI, on 07 November 2015 - 09:24 AM, said:

County were shockingly poor.

That Aborah is a bluddy good player though. A Morsy replacement if ever I saw one.

They played into their hands by being too direct. CHs at that level relish a physical battle. It's the strength of their game. Notts should have played a PC 4-2-3-1 formation, keeping possession and giving their defenders nobody to mark, especially when Gary Neville ordered the pitch to be narrowed. Perhaps it's easier said than done though, as the pitch cut up a bit.

[Spireite-Karl]

dim view, on 07 November 2015 - 11:08 AM, said:

That Aborah is a bluddy good player though. A Morsy replacement if ever I saw one.

They played into their hands by being too direct. CHs at that level relish a physical battle. It's the strength of their game. Notts should have played a PC 4-2-3-1 formation, keeping possession and giving their defenders nobody to mark, especially when Gary Neville ordered the pitch to be narrowed. Perhaps it's easier said than done though, as the pitch cut up a bit.

Funny as I saw him as weak and gloating around instead of running up his sleeves. I wouldn't like to think we'd be going into battle with him in our midfield as we are struggling as it is now. We've all seen players who have good ability, but give you very little.. Mark Randall anyone?

[dtp]

Spireite-Karl, on 07 November 2015 - 10:37 AM, said:

They ply their trade at the 7th level of English football, what did you expect them to play like... Barcelona
Town would have struggled against those lot last night as they were in your face from minute one, tackled hard yet fair, defended fantastically, played for each other and had an end product, doesn't take million pound players to win football matches when you have all this.

Karl - I am actually in agreement with you.

But, I was just pointing out the difference between what was their "long-ball" game compared to the "long-ball" game often employed in the football league.

[frearsghost]

dtp, on 07 November 2015 - 09:52 AM, said:

"Fantastic" in so much as you enjoyed their long ball game?

Strange then that we appear to find every excuse for criticism if a town player passes the ball further than five yards.

Seriously, though, I thought Salford got it spot on by missing midfield out but having more players up top to challenge for the ball once it had been launched and then play their football in the final third - and it wasn't as if they had a giant up top either.

This, to me, was the basic difference- they committed men up front to challenge whereas PC's Plan B, or whoever's nowadays, still seemed to rely on just one or, at most, two players to beat five or six defenders.

They also narrowed the pitch by over a yard making it much easier for their defence to withstand the long balls into the box and, at the same time, creating less space for County to maneouvre. It was a crowded Salford box by design and it worked. Canny, and it helped them enormously.

[Tha Knows...]

dim view, on 07 November 2015 - 11:08 AM, said:

That Aborah is a bluddy good player though. A Morsy replacement if ever I saw one.

They played into their hands by being too direct. CHs at that level relish a physical battle. It's the strength of their game. Notts should have played a PC 4-2-3-1 formation, keeping possession and giving their defenders nobody to mark, especially when Gary Neville ordered the pitch to be narrowed. Perhaps it's easier said than done though, as the pitch cut up a bit.

I had exactly the same thought! He caught my eye on Player highlights of their home win against portsmouth last week. I was mainly watching Forest beat derby last night but Aborah stood out from what I saw of the Salford game.

Just found he is 28 (thought he would be younger) and signed a 2 year deal at county in the summer. Belgian same as Franck

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frearsghost, on 07 November 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

They also narrowed the pitch by over a yard making it much easier for their defence to withstand the long balls into the box and, at the same time, creating less space for County to maneouvre. It was a crowded Salford box by design and it worked. Canny, and it helped them enormously.

Sorry to be picky mate because I genuinely don't know the answer, but after this happened a lot in the past don't teams have to keep their pitch measurements the same for the whole season?

[sophocles]

dim view, on 07 November 2015 - 10:59 AM, said:

Yes, I still hold the same view. I would field our strongest team apart from SEB and Novak, who would be on the bench in case of emergency. Mani is on fire so, in my opinion, it presents a great opportunity for him. I don't think it amounts to disrespecting the opposition.

Well everybody is entitled to an opinion, but I personally would prefer to avoid the emergency in the first place instead of trying to rescue a situation after it's gone wrong. IMO that is approaching the game with a completely wrong attitude and asking for trouble. As for Mani being 'on fire', that's just a bit over the top on what I've seen of him so far (unless he ventured too close to a bonfire the other night). He shows some promise, but has a long way to go in order to be a consistently effective player at this level, along with Gboly and our other youngsters. I think I have more faith in DS than some other posters, and I have no doubt he will do the right thing on Monday - put out our strongest team, including our most experienced strikers, get the game under control, then bring on the likes of Mani only if we are safely well ahead within 20 minutes or so of the final whistle. I hope none of the FCUM players or coaches sees any of the arrogant, complacent and disrespectful predictions from some of our posters, because that would simply fire them up even more, if watching Salford v NC wasn't enough motivation.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

I'd be staggered if Saunders 'rests' players.

It's not as if he or his signings have enough credit in the bank to take any liberties - he must surely know any breathing space earned thanks to recent wins will soon vanish if things go wrong against FCUM.

Then I'm sure the Chairman will see the FA Cup as an opportunity to recoup some more cash. It's summat like eighteen grand just for beating an outfit three levels below us, without even mentioning what might be made in future rounds.

Best available eleven and a professional performance. Anything else is a major gamble.

[dim view]

sophocles, on 07 November 2015 - 02:42 PM, said:

As for Mani being 'on fire', that's just a bit over the top on what I've seen of him so far (unless he ventured too close to a bonfire the other night). He shows some promise, but has a long way to go in order to be a consistently effective player at this level...

'this level', being L1. He is strolling it at reserve level and scoring goals so I would stick him in at that level. No big deal though, just an opinion based on watching him. No need for personal insults.

[Wooden Spoon]

dim view, on 07 November 2015 - 10:59 AM, said:

. Mani is on fire