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Posted 02 November 2015 - 09:44 PM

http://m.bbc.co.uk/s...otball/34699925

Some cracking signings over the summer and recently in Chris Eagles, Tom Pope, Leon Clarke etc and established quality like Soares, and yet Bury have a bottom four budget?

I don't begrudge them some success but something's not computing somewhere.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 09:50 PM

View PostBankrobber, on 02 November 2015 - 09:44 PM, said:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/s...otball/34699925

Some cracking signings over the summer and recently in Chris Eagles, Tom Pope, Leon Clarke etc and established quality like Soares, and yet Bury have a bottom four budget?

I don't begrudge them some success but something's not computing somewhere.


I'd agree but It does say Eagles "has come here for absolutely no money whatsoever"
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 10:05 PM

Their accounts show they lost £1.6M in the year to 31 May 2014.

Whatever the playing budget is, the financial results don't appear to support it.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 10:19 PM

View Postmoondog, on 02 November 2015 - 09:50 PM, said:

I'd agree but It does say Eagles "has come here for absolutely no money whatsoever"

Bet he will be scuttling off in January then ?
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 10:34 PM

They should have a bottom four budget on their crowds.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 07:44 AM

View Postmoondog, on 02 November 2015 - 09:50 PM, said:

I'd agree but It does say Eagles "has come here for absolutely no money whatsoever"

did he just fly in MARK ?? :windup
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 10:43 AM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 02 November 2015 - 10:05 PM, said:

Their accounts show they lost £1.6M in the year to 31 May 2014.

Whatever the playing budget is, the financial results don't appear to support it.


Who owns them now? Didn't the nevilles have something to do with them?
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 10:57 AM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 03 November 2015 - 10:43 AM, said:

Who owns them now? Didn't the nevilles have something to do with them?

There was some disquiet a while back about their owner and this David Conn article....

http://www.theguardi...shadow-recovery
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 11:17 AM

View Postazul, on 03 November 2015 - 10:57 AM, said:

There was some disquiet a while back about their owner and this David Conn article....

http://www.theguardi...shadow-recovery


Apparently got 7 CCJ's outstanding from May this year and didn't play Clarke the last game because they can't afford his appearance money. All seems a bit dodgy.

This post has been edited by spireiterob: 03 November 2015 - 11:22 AM

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 11:18 AM

Yeah, because Leon Clarke is in no way, shape or form a complete mercenary who will play for the highest bidder...
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 11:30 AM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 03 November 2015 - 10:43 AM, said:

Who owns them now? Didn't the nevilles have something to do with them?

Gary and Phil's dad, Neville Neville, was involved but dont think as an owner and neither of the other two had any involvement :-

Neville was a director of club Bury of the English Football League.[7][8] He was the spearhead and vice-chairman of the "save our shakers" appeal which was a bid to give financial assistance to the struggling football club after it had gone into administration.[8][9]

The campaign was "brilliantly orchestrated"[8] by Neville and he was praised for tirelessly organising supporters groups, giving media interviews and working closely with the administrators to arrange a deal to secure the club's safety.[8]


Not sure when he left there but he died back in August.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 11:37 AM

Didnt they try and sell their car parking spaces for ridiculous amounts of money recently?
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 11:39 AM

"My budget is in the bottom four of this league and that is a fact," Flitcroft told BBC Radio Manchester.
"That's off the Football League, that's what Financial Fair Play tells you the lists are out there, you can find them and that is where my budget is."


Where are these lists?

View PostTown_Fan, on 03 November 2015 - 11:37 AM, said:

Didnt they try and sell their car parking spaces for ridiculous amounts of money recently?

It was one of those investment schemes promising high returns for an investment of a few grand. The figures looked too good to be true, and the odds of Bury pulling a fast one and/or going into administration over the next few years are surely very short.

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 12:03 PM

It's a matter of time before they have the begging bowls out again.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 12:17 PM

View PostSiberian Spireite, on 03 November 2015 - 11:39 AM, said:

"My budget is in the bottom four of this league and that is a fact," Flitcroft told BBC Radio Manchester.
"That's off the Football League, that's what Financial Fair Play tells you the lists are out there, you can find them and that is where my budget is."


Where are these lists


They are out there somewhere, Chris Turnip is forever quoting them

Not sure they are in the public domain though
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 12:21 PM

View Postazul, on 03 November 2015 - 12:17 PM, said:

They are out there somewhere, Chris Turnip is forever quoting them

Not sure they are in the public domain though


They are allegedly circulated amongst clubs but I can't see how they can be accurate if they don't take into consideration bonuses that fall due at the end of the season.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 01:47 PM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 03 November 2015 - 12:21 PM, said:

They are allegedly circulated amongst clubs but I can't see how they can be accurate if they don't take into consideration bonuses that fall due at the end of the season.

I'm sure they'll give a good indicator and they get updated throughout the season. I think apart from your own the other clubs aren't disclosed

I wonder if the effect of the bonuses are sometimes exaggerated
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 02:00 PM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 03 November 2015 - 12:21 PM, said:

They are allegedly circulated amongst clubs but I can't see how they can be accurate if they don't take into consideration bonuses that fall due at the end of the season.




Clubs get a list of budgets but all apart from their own are anonymised



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Posted 03 November 2015 - 06:15 PM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 03 November 2015 - 12:03 PM, said:

It's a matter of time before they have the begging bowls out again.

Are their crowds improving with the current success ? Always seemed a lost cause in recent years.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 06:18 PM

View Postmoondog, on 03 November 2015 - 02:00 PM, said:

Clubs get a list of budgets but all apart from their own are anonymised


Blimey - is that a word, 'M'?

Phew.

Anyway, word is Eagles spent the Summer and Autumn pimping himself around demanding top dollar for his signature. Either he realised that wasn't gonna happen or Flitcroft is blowing it out his ass. Given other recruits I'd suggest the latter.
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