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Fleetwood V Chesterfield

#161 User is offline   Ernie Ernie Ernie 

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:17 AM

View PostSpire-Power, on 01 November 2015 - 10:49 PM, said:

Good point HF, although O'Shea will probably never have a tackle in him he seems to be working better on the midfield side of his game and Gardner is tracking back more. Hopefully we will see Ariyibi and Simons develop their all round games too.
Regardless of who had been appointed as PC's successor I do wonder what fans expect this season following the loss of so many key players - the play offs??!
Purely guesswork but as I see it as we will win some and lose some, home results will improve and away results will fall back, and we will get enough points to stay up. I will be happy with that in all the circumstances. Anything else is a bonus.


Gardner is consistently attract d to the middle of the pitch and leaves his man out wide with loads of space
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:58 AM

View PostErnie Ernie Ernie, on 01 November 2015 - 09:46 PM, said:

Devitt, Brown,


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 08:19 AM

View PostSpire-Power, on 01 November 2015 - 10:08 PM, said:

He has had to do what he can to get reasonably good results fairly quickly, and so far he has done that. His way has been to gamble on unfit players with a good pedigree and it may turn out to be a good way. Should he have gambled on unknowns that may have a sell-on value but ended up delivering nothing? The sale of key players has obviously created a dilemma not of his choosing and he has chosen a way of dealing with that. He will be judged on how that goes, although some have already made their minds up. He has signed a few young uns - Donohue and Orrell spring to mind, Graham is 23 - so maybe one of those will make some money for the club, or someone else he will sign in the future. It's all a bit early to say imo.

You may be right that he needs time to find his team to fit his style of play, but some games were painful to watch. One that springs to mind was that home game against I think it was lowly Colchester, when they literally over-ran us and we were deep all second half when most folk expected us to batter them.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 09:02 AM

View PostBowzer spirey, on 02 November 2015 - 08:19 AM, said:

You may be right that he needs time to find his team to fit his style of play, but some games were painful to watch. One that springs to mind was that home game against I think it was lowly Colchester, when they literally over-ran us and we were deep all second half when most folk expected us to batter them.

'Overran us'? Are you on about the right game? Against Colchester we were down to 10 men early on, played really well to take a 3-1 lead, understandably tired and conceded late. I don't consider playing 10 v 11 for nearly the whole game and getting a draw as being overrun.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 09:07 AM

View Postsophocles, on 02 November 2015 - 09:02 AM, said:

'Overran us'? Are you on about the right game? Against Colchester we were down to 10 men early on, played really well to take a 3-1 lead, understandably tired and conceded late. I don't consider playing 10 v 11 for nearly the whole game and getting a draw as being overrun.

Their results after that game backed up DS's claim that Col U were in a false position at the bottom and I have to say they looked decent going forward
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 11:20 AM

View Postmetallilad, on 01 November 2015 - 01:40 PM, said:

How many of Cooks signings never made any contribution or not made something of themselves though?


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 03:46 PM

View PostSpire-Power, on 01 November 2015 - 10:08 PM, said:

He has had to do what he can to get reasonably good results fairly quickly, and so far he has done that. His way has been to gamble on unfit players with a good pedigree and it may turn out to be a good way. Should he have gambled on unknowns that may have a sell-on value but ended up delivering nothing? The sale of key players has obviously created a dilemma not of his choosing and he has chosen a way of dealing with that. He will be judged on how that goes, although some have already made their minds up. He has signed a few young uns - Donohue and Orrell spring to mind, Graham is 23 - so maybe one of those will make some money for the club, or someone else he will sign in the future. It's all a bit early to say imo.


I`m not disputing that, or the pedigree of the likes of SEB, I`m simply saying that the previous "model" was to source and recruit younger or lesser known players that can be in the first team, develop and have sell on value.....and now we don't appear to be doing that.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 04:06 PM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 02 November 2015 - 03:46 PM, said:

I`m not disputing that, or the pedigree of the likes of SEB, I`m simply saying that the previous "model" was to source and recruit younger or lesser known players that can be in the first team, develop and have sell on value.....and now we don't appear to be doing that.

Maybe he needed more time to replace the 4 he lost with sufficient quality, if he was only sourcing youngsters? Perhaps Paul Mitchell had not identified such replacements? DS would have had to have them already lined up as it was the end of the playing season. DS's stated priority was a striker, and we definitely needed one, and he lined up seb quickly .
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 04:15 PM

View Postmr. smith, on 02 November 2015 - 11:20 AM, said:

Eric nixon


He made a contribution to Cookies personal protection. The "muscle" in the entourage.

Class One knob.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 05:07 PM

View PostErnie Ernie Ernie, on 02 November 2015 - 07:17 AM, said:

Gardner is consistently attract d to the middle of the pitch and leaves his man out wide with loads of space

IMO because he's a right winger
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 05:09 PM

View PostTips M, on 02 November 2015 - 04:15 PM, said:

He made a contribution to Cookies personal protection. The "muscle" in the entourage.

Class One knob.

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:25 PM

View PostTips M, on 02 November 2015 - 04:15 PM, said:

He made a contribution to Cookies personal protection. The "muscle" in the entourage.

Class One knob.

Did PC forget to offer terms to Nixon, Carr & Lynch at Portsmouth? Mmmm
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:34 PM

View Postfreelander2, on 02 November 2015 - 06:25 PM, said:

Did PC forget to offer terms to Nixon, Carr & Lynch at Portsmouth? Mmmm


Long way from Carr's partner's house in Leeds to Pompey...

Seriously though, the size of his entourage - which also included Robbie Blake towards the end - speaks to just how much licence Cook was given at CFC.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:59 PM

View PostTips M, on 02 November 2015 - 04:15 PM, said:

He made a contribution to Cookies personal protection. The "muscle" in the entourage.

Class One knob.

elvis imporsonater more like WAGE THIEF

View Postfreelander2, on 02 November 2015 - 06:25 PM, said:

Did PC forget to offer terms to Nixon, Carr & Lynch at Portsmouth? Mmmm

are the lifts in portsmouth big enough for them all to urine in :unsure:

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on 02 November 2015 - 06:34 PM, said:

Long way from Carr's partner's house in Leeds to Pompey...

Seriously though, the size of his entourage - which also included Robbie Blake towards the end - speaks to just how much licence Cook was given at CFC.

OLD PALS ACT all urine in the same pot chris , good riddance ,looks as though cooks licence dried up with da
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:16 PM

View Postlindo-spireite, on 02 November 2015 - 05:07 PM, said:

IMO because he's a right winger


Even less reason to get attracted into the middle then I would have thought?
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:22 PM

View PostErnie Ernie Ernie, on 02 November 2015 - 07:16 PM, said:

Even less reason to get attracted into the middle then I would have thought?


plays on the left, naturally right footed so makes sense that he'd not be hugging the touchline.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 08:52 PM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 01 November 2015 - 12:25 AM, said:

Means nothing


League table lying, obviously.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 09:12 PM

h again said:

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League table lying, obviously.
Don't be such a foolish old duffer.

This post has been edited by a kick in the balls: 03 November 2015 - 09:25 PM

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 09:26 PM

View PostHalf Full, on 01 November 2015 - 12:08 PM, said:

It does as many on here myself included are full Of comparisons between Saunders and Cook and their differing styles. So if we can compare the two to criticise then we can do the same to find positives.

Made a late call to go yesterday, the temptation of a few ales in Blackpool swung it and bar the tram back from Fleetwood it was a good day. Lots of town missed the game and stayed in Blackpool but they missed a decent performance. Herd and Morsy controlled the game, and O'Shea was very good too! Saw a few decent bits from Fleetwood fans on our play, "Pass Pass pass..great to watch" was the pick and we did look good on the ball without doing a lot with it, I'd imagine we had 60% possession yesterday, albeit a lot of it in our own half. If we can up the tempo and find a little more incision going forward we would carve teams like Fleetwood to bits. Going to miss Morsy so much though.

Agree it was a decent performance. Herd man of the match for me really beginning to look a good signing. Works well with Morsy and it will be a shame if we lose one (or possibly both if Herds contact not extended) in the New Year. I think we are beginning to see the development of a decent first team. Lee has been outstanding, Evett and Raglan look solid and Wood sounds useful. Jones playing well and Drew is getting better as he gets fitter. Morsy and Herd robust and influential. SEB doing what he is paid for and taking the chances and putting himself about during the game. His pairing with Novak looks like it might pay dividends. I'm also impressed with the improvement and contributions from O'Shea and Gardner, in particular the former. We are also so much better from dead balls particularly the attacking ones. When we played the ball through midfield yesterday we looked a really useful side. Some of the Cook era interplay but with a focus on getting the ball forward and into the box which we did lack at times last season.
Still too many long high balls up to the forwards and the bench does not look strong enough to cover all areas. Good to see the younger players getting the opportunity but with the exception of Raglan I'm not convinced any are yet good enough to start. Credit must go to Saunders for much of this. To say otherwise is really churlish. As always the final league table will tell the truth but I'm beginning to see us looking like a decent side. Still work to do but going in the right direction


Sorry to be a bit late on this, but you've nailed it there. Only failure was Gardner, whose tracking back is not only ineffective, it's embarrassing, and if it doesn't improve it's going to cost us, even with a first choice fullback. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say he just had a bad day, but he was really poor in a team that played well for the most part. Simmons is the definition of 'big, raw lad' and just dashed about, but had a couple of good runs.
We were generally comfortable apart from a couple of scares from high balls late on, and if Novak had been playing we'd have strolled it, 'cos the service to SEB was poor. The midfield was solid, Herd better every game, and if we find a bit more quality to get the ball to SEB in the area, on the ground or in the air, he'll get twenty goals this season, because to me he looks fit, sharp and up for it despite lack of service.
And if he gets anything like his old scoring form back he'll go for big money, never mind bringing on youngsters.
Not a classic game, but not the worst I've seen lately. Things are looking better.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 11:34 PM

View Posth again, on 03 November 2015 - 09:26 PM, said:

Sorry to be a bit late on this, but you've nailed it there. Only failure was Gardner, whose tracking back is not only ineffective, it's embarrassing, and if it doesn't improve it's going to cost us, even with a first choice fullback. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say he just had a bad day, but he was really poor in a team that played well for the most part. Simmons is the definition of 'big, raw lad' and just dashed about, but had a couple of good runs.
We were generally comfortable apart from a couple of scares from high balls late on, and if Novak had been playing we'd have strolled it, 'cos the service to SEB was poor. The midfield was solid, Herd better every game, and if we find a bit more quality to get the ball to SEB in the area, on the ground or in the air, he'll get twenty goals this season, because to me he looks fit, sharp and up for it despite lack of service.
And if he gets anything like his old scoring form back he'll go for big money, never mind bringing on youngsters.
Not a classic game, but not the worst I've seen lately. Things are looking better.


Seb looks fit and sharp? Why planet are you on son?
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