[Goku]

It's nice watching someone else being abused by Jonny

[newboldsteve]

Spire-Heights, on 11 October 2015 - 07:35 PM, said:

Question is tho, would you swap SEB for Doyle now.

O'Neil or Darikwa ?
Herd or Ryan ?
Simons or Roberts ?
SEB or Doyle ?
Novak or Clucas

after watching them this last month I wouldn't swap any of them but hindsight a great thing

[jonnythespireite]

newboldsteve, on 11 October 2015 - 07:33 PM, said:

say what you want its true

Are you Walton Spireites second log in?? It's got to be a wind up.

[Middle East]

Goku, on 11 October 2015 - 07:55 PM, said:

It's nice watching someone else being abused by Jonny

I will happily abuse you if you are feeling left out...

...and youre not too busy boiling your head or taking drugs that is!

This post has been edited by Middle East: 11 October 2015 - 08:07 PM

[jonnythespireite]

Goku, on 11 October 2015 - 07:55 PM, said:

It's nice watching someone else being abused by Jonny

It comes to summat when he's United me and thee !!!!

Middle East, on 11 October 2015 - 07:56 PM, said:

I will happily abuse you if you are feeling left out...

Is it me but does That sound a bit Jimmy savillle??

Goku, on 11 October 2015 - 07:55 PM, said:

It's nice watching someone else being abused by Jonny

I've not abused you for ages, you get touchy...

[Middle East]

jonnythespireite, on 11 October 2015 - 08:02 PM, said:

It comes to summat when he's United me and thee !!!!


Is it me but does That sound a bit Jimmy savillle??


I've not abused you for ages, you get touchy...

It's just you..

This post has been edited by Middle East: 11 October 2015 - 08:03 PM

[newboldsteve]

jonnythespireite, on 11 October 2015 - 07:53 PM, said:

If you say so ......

Foooook me. I'm glad my head doesn't work like yours. Can you not see that pretty much everyone who's replied to your tripe thinks you're an absolute clown?

what 3 or 4 out of a few thousand bobs board members well done

[Wooden Spoon]

newboldsteve, on 11 October 2015 - 07:28 PM, said:

We started last season with doyle and armand and every single one of you would have swapped them for ebanks and novac

TBH I`d have swapped Armand for a tray of chips and gravey

[newboldsteve]

start a poll up dave allen in out the club will see who agrees with who you set of clowns

[Westbars Spireite]

I admire newboldsteve's commitment to his argument (whatever it actually is).

a kick in the balls, on 11 October 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

TBH I`d have swapped Armand for a tray of chips and gravey

I'd have swapped him for the tray.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

newboldsteve, on 11 October 2015 - 07:33 PM, said:

say what you want its true

Steve.

It's true that Dave Allen has been terrific for Chesterfield FC. His investment provided the stadium, facilities, players and managers that delivered league titles, Wembley visits, play offs and some of the best football ever witnessed from a Town side. I'm grateful for that as I believe are most other Town fans.

However he's also made mistakes.

The debt has risen every year since our first at the new place and all because of decisions he's taken, losses suffered on his watch. The four year deal for Sheridan with no failure clauses; standing by that manager when he was taking us down; the costs of replacing him and his staff; the supposedly unforeseen bills regarding the ground fit-out; the million quid in the red despite the JPT, promotion and summer gigs. Sure he's put money in to underwrite all that but it was his fault.

Then there're the player sales.

Now if you can't join the dots between the Chairman's constant narrative about paying down the debt, Paul Cook's dissatisfaction over the budget, what Phil Tooley tried to tell us towards the end last season, what Cook's said in the interview reproduced elsewhere on here, Allen's irritation over supposedly unsustainable crowd levels, the losses in the official accounts, the CEO and a friendly journalist effectively touting players and then those players being sold, well, that's your choice. And are you seriously saying someone as strong minded, perhaps stubborn as DA couldn't insist players fulfil their contracts if he wanted them to? That he'd allow anyone to do anything against his will? That's certainly not the Dave Allen I know, the bloke so pugnacious at Hillsborough and since. Sure football's increasingly weighted towards players these days but we wouldn't be the first club to hold them to the deals they signed.

Saunders? Again you're entitled to your opinion, however 'not far off'? The only thing he's 'not far off' is being the worst Town manager in living memory. Sooner or later even Allen will realise that and axe him, thereby negating much of the debt reduction achieved this summer.

Finally I hope you'll note I've posted in a reasonable and civilised manner. No tired old taunts about 'so called fans', accusations of substance abuse or other name calling. Please reciprocate.

Cheers, Chris.

This post has been edited by MDCCCLXVI: 11 October 2015 - 08:25 PM

[Heavy_Soul]

Westbars Spireite, on 11 October 2015 - 08:16 PM, said:

I admire newboldsteve's commitment to his argument (whatever it actually is).



I'd have swapped him for the tray.

I'd have swapped him for the paper the tray is wrapped in.

[calvin plummers socks]

^ stay classy guys

[Goku]

Middle East, on 11 October 2015 - 07:56 PM, said:

I will happily abuse you if you are feeling left out...

Ooo I didn't know you felt that way about me

[Middle East]

Goku, on 11 October 2015 - 08:30 PM, said:

Ooo I didn't know you felt that way about me

I don't jonny does though...

[mattthespireite]

newboldsteve, on 10 October 2015 - 08:21 PM, said:

hahahah just remind me again of any chairman who as done more for this club than da or brought it has much success

has and as

[newboldsteve]

MDCCCLXVI, on 11 October 2015 - 08:17 PM, said:

Steve.

It's true that Dave Allen has been terrific for Chesterfield FC. His investment provided the stadium, facilities, players and managers that delivered league titles, Wembley visits, play offs and some of the best football ever witnessed from a Town side. I'm grateful for that as I believe are most other Town fans.

However he's also made mistakes.

The debt has risen every year since our first at the new place and all because of decisions he's taken, losses suffered on his watch. The four year deal for Sheridan with no failure clauses; standing by that manager when he was taking us down; the costs of replacing him and his staff; the supposedly unforeseen bills regarding the ground fit-out; the million quid in the red despite the JPT, promotion and summer gigs. Sure he's put money in to underwrite all that but it was his fault.

Then there're the player sales.

Now if you can't join the dots between the Chairman's constant narrative about paying down the debt, Paul Cook's dissatisfaction over the budget, what Phil Tooley tried to tell us towards the end last season, what Cook's said in the interview reproduced elsewhere on here, Allen's irritation over supposedly unsustainable crowd levels, the losses in the official accounts, the CEO and a friendly journalist effectively touting players and then those players being sold, well, that's your choice. And are you seriously saying someone as strong minded, perhaps stubborn as DA couldn't insist players fulfil their contracts if he wanted them to? That he'd allow anyone to do anything against his will? That's certainly not the Dave Allen I know, the bloke so pugnacious at Hillsborough and since. Sure football's increasingly weighted towards players these days but we wouldn't be the first club to hold them to the deals they signed.

Saunders? Again you're entitled to your opinion, however 'not far off'? The only thing he's 'not far off' is being the worst Town manager in living memory. Sooner or later even Allen will realise that and axe him, thereby negating much of the debt reduction achieved this summer.

Finally I hope you'll note I've posted in a reasonable and civilised manner. No tired old taunts about 'so called fans', accusations of substance abuse or other name calling. Please reciprocate.

Cheers, Chris.

I do agree things aren't going well and mistakes have been made but some on here call for the board to go is ridicules. any business man is not going to hold players to contracts and throw away 3 to 4 mill in fees that could bring in players or pay off debt, well what would you do in that position if it was your money. paul cook was trying to leave last September . and saunders I was with giving him a chance till his interview yesterday now I hope he goes asap

[Waller is my hero]

newboldsteve, on 11 October 2015 - 08:54 PM, said:

I do agree things aren't going well and mistakes have been made but some on here call for the board to go is ridicules. any business man is not going to hold players to contracts and throw away 3 to 4 mill in fees that could bring in players or pay off debt, well what would you do in that position if it was your money. paul cook was trying to leave last September . and saunders I was with giving him a chance till his interview yesterday now I hope he goes asap

That interview could be his downfall....i wonder what the press..CT & DA thought

CT & DA have seriously messed up here.....however we aren't the only club!! Brentford & Swindon spring to mind

[newboldsteve]

Waller is my hero, on 11 October 2015 - 09:03 PM, said:

That interview could be his downfall....i wonder what the press..CT & DA thought

CT & DA have seriously messed up here.....however we aren't the only club!! Brentford & Swindon spring to mind

every club picks a bad manager from time to time but its not worth wanting them out the club

[warfey is a spireite]

jonnythespireite, on 11 October 2015 - 08:02 PM, said:

It comes to summat when he's United me and thee !!!!


Is it me but does That sound a bit Jimmy savillle??


I've not abused you for ages, you get touchy...

bottoms up chaps , bottoms up , go for it josh lol