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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:59 AM

I wonder if we are, as Southampton have done in the last few seasons, and that is disbanding a succesful team and in essence selling the players at a time when their price is at its peak as far as the club is concerned?
It is a big gamble but would this type of tactic if succesful over the coming seasons be a long term way of debt reduction.
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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:07 AM

View PostTorto coruchéu, on 12 May 2015 - 09:59 AM, said:

I wonder if we are, as Southampton have done in the last few seasons, and that is disbanding a succesful team and in essence selling the players at a time when their price is at its peak as far as the club is concerned?
It is a big gamble but would this type of tactic if succesful over the coming seasons be a long term way of debt reduction.


Big difference between selling players for £20M plus and replacing them with £8M ones, as opposed to selling very good L1 players and replacing them with non-league rough diamonds and L2 players. The latter process is more risky!
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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:14 AM

View PostTorto coruchéu, on 12 May 2015 - 09:59 AM, said:

I wonder if we are, as Southampton have done in the last few seasons, and that is disbanding a succesful team and in essence selling the players at a time when their price is at its peak as far as the club is concerned?
It is a big gamble but would this type of tactic if succesful over the coming seasons be a long term way of debt reduction.

Would work if we had Les Reed perhaps as CEO. I have posted about his philosophy before- as told to Gary Neville in a newspaper article published in January.

Reed tells me: “We have a whole department for the recruitment of players, but it struck me some years ago that when a manager leaves, that’s when the club reacts and starts looking for a new one. I think we should be as diligent with that, because of the turnover of managers these days.

Whether they are fired or attracted to another club, as with Mauricio [Pochettino], you have to be as far ahead with potential coaches as potential players. So I’m always tracking managers and coaches. What’s their style of play, how successful are they, what’s their personality like – so you can be ahead of the game. So I’m always looking at five or six potential managers who have already impressed me. It’s made it quicker. We’re not having off the wall discussions

I don’t have the owner appointing a manager and saying: ‘By the way, you’ve got to work with this sporting director.’ I control that whole process. It makes it a lot easier. I’m able to tell them we’re looking to keep them in the job for as long as possible - as opposed to somebody who’s looking over their shoulder and almost looking for reasons to move them on.”


Full article: http://www.telegraph...er-is-over.html
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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:29 AM

View Postbrianclose, on 12 May 2015 - 10:07 AM, said:

Big difference between selling players for £20M plus and replacing them with £8M ones, as opposed to selling very good L1 players and replacing them with non-league rough diamonds and L2 players. The latter process is more risky!


There's been no evidence yet that your latter process will actually be the case. Our generally poor squad fillers all seem to have come from one place seemingly sanctioned by the management team.
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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:36 AM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 12 May 2015 - 10:14 AM, said:

Would work if we had Les Reed perhaps as CEO. I have posted about his philosophy before- as told to Gary Neville in a newspaper article published in January.

Reed tells me: "We have a whole department for the recruitment of players, but it struck me some years ago that when a manager leaves, that's when the club reacts and starts looking for a new one. I think we should be as diligent with that, because of the turnover of managers these days.

Whether they are fired or attracted to another club, as with Mauricio [Pochettino], you have to be as far ahead with potential coaches as potential players. So I'm always tracking managers and coaches. What's their style of play, how successful are they, what's their personality like – so you can be ahead of the game. So I'm always looking at five or six potential managers who have already impressed me. It's made it quicker. We're not having off the wall discussions

I don't have the owner appointing a manager and saying: 'By the way, you've got to work with this sporting director.' I control that whole process. It makes it a lot easier. I'm able to tell them we're looking to keep them in the job for as long as possible - as opposed to somebody who's looking over their shoulder and almost looking for reasons to move them on."


Full article: http://www.telegraph...er-is-over.html


On the other hand we have Chris Turner who states w/e "I have no other thoughts about who is manager other than Paul Cook at this moment in time".
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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:49 AM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 12 May 2015 - 10:14 AM, said:

Would work if we had Les Reed perhaps as CEO. I have posted about his philosophy before- as told to Gary Neville in a newspaper article published in January.

Reed tells me: “We have a whole department for the recruitment of players, but it struck me some years ago that when a manager leaves, that’s when the club reacts and starts looking for a new one. I think we should be as diligent with that, because of the turnover of managers these days.

Whether they are fired or attracted to another club, as with Mauricio [Pochettino], you have to be as far ahead with potential coaches as potential players. So I’m always tracking managers and coaches. What’s their style of play, how successful are they, what’s their personality like – so you can be ahead of the game. So I’m always looking at five or six potential managers who have already impressed me. It’s made it quicker. We’re not having off the wall discussions

I don’t have the owner appointing a manager and saying: ‘By the way, you’ve got to work with this sporting director.’ I control that whole process. It makes it a lot easier. I’m able to tell them we’re looking to keep them in the job for as long as possible - as opposed to somebody who’s looking over their shoulder and almost looking for reasons to move them on.”


Full article: http://www.telegraph...er-is-over.html


Good Post. We also, I assume, don't have a "Ron Koeman" (sp?) coming in to take the reins...
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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:51 AM

View PostZeus, on 12 May 2015 - 10:36 AM, said:

On the other hand we have Chris Turner who states w/e "I have no other thoughts about who is manager other than Paul Cook at this moment in time".

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 11:06 AM

View PostTorto coruchéu, on 12 May 2015 - 09:59 AM, said:

I wonder if we are, as Southampton have done in the last few seasons, and that is disbanding a succesful team and in essence selling the players at a time when their price is at its peak as far as the club is concerned?
It is a big gamble but would this type of tactic if succesful over the coming seasons be a long term way of debt reduction.


Although Southampton have by far and away the best scouting system in the land - especially Academy level
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Posted 13 May 2015 - 08:39 AM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 12 May 2015 - 10:14 AM, said:

Would work if we had Les Reed perhaps as CEO. I have posted about his philosophy before- as told to Gary Neville in a newspaper article published in January.

Reed tells me: “We have a whole department for the recruitment of players, but it struck me some years ago that when a manager leaves, that’s when the club reacts and starts looking for a new one. I think we should be as diligent with that, because of the turnover of managers these days.

Whether they are fired or attracted to another club, as with Mauricio [Pochettino], you have to be as far ahead with potential coaches as potential players. So I’m always tracking managers and coaches. What’s their style of play, how successful are they, what’s their personality like – so you can be ahead of the game. So I’m always looking at five or six potential managers who have already impressed me. It’s made it quicker. We’re not having off the wall discussions

I don’t have the owner appointing a manager and saying: ‘By the way, you’ve got to work with this sporting director.’ I control that whole process. It makes it a lot easier. I’m able to tell them we’re looking to keep them in the job for as long as possible - as opposed to somebody who’s looking over their shoulder and almost looking for reasons to move them on.”


Full article: http://www.telegraph...er-is-over.html

So much for that theory of finding a manager who will play the same kind of football then.
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Posted 13 May 2015 - 08:42 AM

View PostTorto coruchéu, on 12 May 2015 - 09:59 AM, said:

I wonder if we are, as Southampton have done.....


.....going straight from L1 to the premiership? WOO HOO!!! YAY!!!! some good news at last!!!
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Posted 13 May 2015 - 11:58 AM

View PostBlue95, on 12 May 2015 - 10:51 AM, said:

Great guy is Chris


"Dean is the only choice we thought of for manager". Totally absurd. Whether it's true or not, he should have been among a pool of candidates.
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