[starsky72]

Westbars Spireite, on 05 May 2015 - 08:15 PM, said:

1/10 is about as close as it gets on these to shutting the book. No one would touch that price without inside info surely and even then it's hardly worth the risk.

The "snippet" was passed onto the guys that frequent Owlerton while the price was still decent and their bets were probably the cause of the price tumbling.

[Dreaming Spire]

azul, on 05 May 2015 - 07:58 PM, said:

If he does eventually go to Portsmouth they'll be a few eyebrows raised, not just in this area

Fail there and his stock will drop alarmingly

Along with most, I'm very reluctant to believe and accept that all this might somehow be true, ESPECIALLY AT THIS CRUCIAL TIME !!! ..... But the only thing that I am absolutely CONVINCED about is that PC would surely be making the worst mistake of his career if he went to Portsmouth.

Quite apart from the appalling hypocrisy, in terms of his rhetoric about 'Loyalty' etc,etc, it's just unbelievable that he might even consider such a retrograde move and just at a time when his stock is probably at its pinnacle so far in his managerial career. For heavens sake, he is being coveted by MUCH BIGGER CLUBS right now and for good reason. So, surely the guy must realise this ! .... OR DOES HE ??? Nah, surely he does !

..... I can only wonder now, if something really shattering, in terms of next seasons player budget etc has been revealed to him by the powers that be and that it must have completely done his head in .... to such an extent that he's had a real bellyfull of it and just wants out !??

It's still 'Crystal Ball' time, really .... Well, either that or something to do with a load of other spherical objects, hopefully.

This post has been edited by Dreaming Spire: 05 May 2015 - 08:42 PM

[DerbySpireite59]

I'll sing "Paul Cook's barmy army" 'til the day he departs. He'll go one day anyway, and there's no point getting het up over when and how. I'm just loving it at the moment, and refuse to let anything sour the moment, as it's been 35 years since we've been this close to tier 2. Also, i don't throw the loyalty card on to the table. After all john sheridan got a raw deal in my opinion. Nof doing so bad at plymouth eh?

[metallilad]

Wasn't there a quote on the Bridge Inn night when Mr Cook stated that he didn't want to manage a club higher in the leagues due to the budget requirements being astronomical.
It might be the reason why he's chosen a lower "bigger" club to go to rather than a higher "bigger" club.



At least it's not a local rival.

This post has been edited by metallilad: 05 May 2015 - 08:35 PM

[calvin plummers socks]

I love Cookie- I think he is the best thing to happen to Town.
However if he leaves us for Portsmouth I hope he does terribly and is sacked within a couple of months.

There is a thing called loyalty and honour and sometimes the grass is not always greener. Greed is definitely not good and sometimes it is a habit in football of biting you in the a ss.

If he dos badly at Pompey I guess it means CT has cashed in his chips at the right time.
One thing is certain though- if Cookie does go CT will become the most hated man North of Watford Gap (well maybe after Oyston)

[Misnomer]

starsky72, on 05 May 2015 - 08:28 PM, said:

The "snippet" was passed onto the guys that frequent Owlerton while the price was still decent and their bets were probably the cause of the price tumbling.

You have to be joking?

[Bankrobber]

So, that seems to be that then, the way i read it.

What a thoroughly depressing way to enter into the most important period in the clubs recent history. Thanks Paul, Thanks Chris, Thanks Portsmouth, Thanks Dave and the rest of the board. Only we could manage to allow a rip roaring success of a manager who's under contract, leave to a team one possibly two divisions below. Embarrassing isn't the word.

Of course, if it's now known at the club that PC is off shortly, what are we doing about hiring a new manager? Or does the CEO and the rest of the board need to see the play offs and their summer holidays out of the way before starting to look in to that? Perhaps we need to put the word out first via some local media guy that we might be in the market...

[moondog]

starsky72, on 05 May 2015 - 08:28 PM, said:

The "snippet" was passed onto the guys that frequent Owlerton while the price was still decent and their bets were probably the cause of the price tumbling.

It's certainly the case that the Sheffield based guests on Biggs show knew the score which Biggs confirmed

[Spireite-Karl]

derbyspireite52, on 05 May 2015 - 08:31 PM, said:

I'll sing "Paul Cook's barmy army" 'til the day he departs. He'll go one day anyway, and there's no point getting het up over when and how. I'm just loving it at the moment, and refuse to let anything sour the moment, as it's been 35 years since we've been this close to tier 2. Also, i don't throw the loyalty card on to the table. After all john sheridan got a raw deal in my opinion. Nof doing so bad at plymouth eh?

For the size of Plymouth and their fan base as a league four side, scrapping 7th spot isn't doing that well tbh. Burton and Bury did well!

[Tylerdurdencfc]

Tylerdurdencfc, on 26 April 2015 - 07:19 PM, said:

It was a done deal when phil t obviously broke the news in a round about way a few days ago, it was B****Y obvious....bookies don't go 1/3 on or whatever without any knowledge of these things. They don't get beat due to the contacts they have. People need to realise it's a done deal but nothing has been said. It will just be about finalising the compensation package and finishing the season.

Hopefully I'm totally wrong but I very very much doubt it.

I posted this the other week, guys it's time to open our eyes, like others have now said this was done weeks ago....it's just about waiting until after the play-offs etc...

In that video posted, you can see he puts his hand out as if to say don't mention it when mark Halsey starts to mention cook leaving, then like someone else says he gets flushed as air he's forgot the official line etc.

The reason why Cook went out on the odds the others day is the potential interest from derby, then straight back in when they realised mclaren doesn't want the Newcastle job and is staying put.....

The bookies aren't wrong and 1/10 is about a certain as it gets in these things.

PT spelt it out the other week and people still won't accept it....


If I'm wrong then fair play I will be one of the happiest on here....however 99percent he's gone...just face up to it.

It's being kept quiet so that the club and players and management can focus on the task at hand and I hope we go up if we did I'd target the Brentford manager.

[Westbars Spireite]

Evatt's post Sheffield United interview seemed to hint he thought that a promotion was what was needed to keep PC.

Not even that will do it seems. If he does go I do want to hear his side of the story though.

[Cartman]

no matter what anyone says there is no loyalty in football - except from fans

more ridiculous over reactions on here

all managers and players are doing it for a job, if they think they can get a better job elsewhere then they will go for it - as most of us would in our line of work

no matter what the summer holds PC and the players will want a Wembley promotion on their CVs and they have got us so far so should be allowed to finish the season without people mardying about wanting him to go now etc etc

would have thought PC could do better than Pompey but there is no denying that it is an attractive job for any manager, big fanbase, big budget for league 2 and the potential to move through the leagues should off field problems be finally sorted

people will always look after themselves and their careers first and so they should - it is a weird position for us to be in for other clubs to actively want to take our manager from us

we should all simply be happy to have had our best season in over 30 years, still have the chance of promotion, to have watched some fantastic football and very good players and whatever happens in the summer happens - if PC goes then hopefully someone takes over who can carry on the good work

enjoy the play offs and leave the moaning until there is something to moan about

[azul]

Tylerdurdencfc, on 05 May 2015 - 08:37 PM, said:

I posted this the other week, guys it's time to open our eyes, like others have now said this was done weeks ago....it's just about waiting until after the play-offs etc...

In that video posted, you can see he puts his hand out as if to say don't mention it when mark Halsey starts to mention cook leaving, then like someone else says he gets flushed as air he's forgot the official line etc.

The reason why Cook went out on the odds the others day is the potential interest from derby, then straight back in when they realised mclaren doesn't want the Newcastle job and is staying put.....

The bookies aren't wrong and 1/10 is about a certain as it gets in these things.

PT spelt it out the other week and people still won't accept it....


If I'm wrong then fair play I will be one of the happiest on here....however 99percent he's gone...just face up to it.

It's being kept quiet so that the club and players and management can focus on the task at hand and I hope we go up if we did I'd target the Brentford manager.

But it isn't working

[moondog]

Dreaming Spire, on 05 May 2015 - 08:28 PM, said:

Along with most, I'm very reluctant to believe and accept that all this might somehow be true, ESPECIALLY AT THIS CRUCIAL TIME !!! ..... But the only thing that I am absolutely CONVINCED about is that PC would surely be making the worst mistake of his career if he went to Portsmouth.

Quite apart from the appalling hypocrisy, in terms of his rhetoric about 'Loyalty' etc,etc, it's just unbelievable that he might even consider such a retrograde move and just at a time when his stock is probably at its pinnacle so far in his managerial career. For heavens sake, he is being coveted by MUCH BIGGER CLUBS right now and for good reason. So, surely the guy must realise this ! .... OR DOES HE ??? Nah, surely he does !

..... I can only wonder now, if something really shattering, in terms of next seasons player budget etc has been revealed to him by the powers that be and that it must have completely done his head in .... to such an extent that he's had a real belly full of it and just wants out !??

It's still 'Crystal Ball' time, really .... Well, either that or something to do with a load of other spherical objects, hopefully

My take and it's only speculation on my part is that this less to do with budgets and more DA's determination to get as much of his money back as possible by selling Morsy, Clucas et al in the summer rather than re-investing the proceeds

[azul]

moondog, on 05 May 2015 - 08:40 PM, said:

My take and it's only speculation on my part is that this less to do with budgets and more DA's determination to get as much of his money back as possible by selling Morsy, Clucas et al in the summer rather than re-investing the proceeds

I agree, it does make you wonder what will happen after that.

[Misnomer]

Cartman, on 05 May 2015 - 08:38 PM, said:

no matter what anyone says there is no loyalty in football - except from fans

more ridiculous over reactions on here

all managers and players are doing it for a job, if they think they can get a better job elsewhere then they will go for it - as most of us would in our line of work

no matter what the summer holds PC and the players will want a Wembley promotion on their CVs and they have got us so far so should be allowed to finish the season without people mardying about wanting him to go now etc etc

would have thought PC could do better than Pompey but there is no denying that it is an attractive job for any manager, big fanbase, big budget for league 2 and the potential to move through the leagues should off field problems be finally sorted

people will always look after themselves and their careers first and so they should - it is a weird position for us to be in for other clubs to actively want to take our manager from us

we should all simply be happy to have had our best season in over 30 years, still have the chance of promotion, to have watched some fantastic football and very good players and whatever happens in the summer happens - if PC goes then hopefully someone takes over who can carry on the good work

enjoy the play offs and leave the moaning until there is something to moan about

I agree with most of what you put; however, PC chose to set himself away from the norm, pouring out endless rhetoric, mainly centered around loyalty.....that's why folk are annoyed.

[Blue95]

Shame really, thought Cook was a breath of fresh air and had more loyalty than that. He's just like the rest of them 💔

[Sheffield Blue]

Cartman, on 05 May 2015 - 08:38 PM, said:

no matter what anyone says there is no loyalty in football - except from fans

more ridiculous over reactions on here

all managers and players are doing it for a job, if they think they can get a better job elsewhere then they will go for it - as most of us would in our line of work

no matter what the summer holds PC and the players will want a Wembley promotion on their CVs and they have got us so far so should be allowed to finish the season without people mardying about wanting him to go now etc etc

would have thought PC could do better than Pompey but there is no denying that it is an attractive job for any manager, big fanbase, big budget for league 2 and the potential to move through the leagues should off field problems be finally sorted

people will always look after themselves and their careers first and so they should - it is a weird position for us to be in for other clubs to actively want to take our manager from us

we should all simply be happy to have had our best season in over 30 years, still have the chance of promotion, to have watched some fantastic football and very good players and whatever happens in the summer happens - if PC goes then hopefully someone takes over who can carry on the good work

enjoy the play offs and leave the moaning until there is something to moan about

Completely agree about loyalty in football. Its hard to stomach but sadly its true. Everyone comes and goes except fans.

Part of me wonders if your board let it be known that we had made an approach in a last ditch attempt to use you the fans to pull at cooks heart strings and persuade him to stay?

[DerbySpireite59]

Spireite-Karl, on 05 May 2015 - 08:36 PM, said:

For the size of Plymouth and their fan base as a league four side, scrapping 7th spot isn't doing that well tbh. Burton and Bury did well!

Fair viewpoint. I still think that js got a raw deal from cfc, and us fans. I think he could have turned it around. To be honest though, the biggest changes needed were with the youth set up and centre of excellence, which PC has effected, with full support of CT and DA.

[turrhall]

I feel uncomfortable casting aspersions on PC until his leaving is a published fact. If that happens, then I'll see how I feel then. Disappointed no doubt, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.