[Goku]

I reckon they might be dropping the kit off

[Nerima Spireite]

azul, on 24 April 2015 - 03:10 PM, said:

What is the Bristol team bus doing at the stadium this early, we haven't moved the kickoff forward have we?

Keith was actually right the first time - it's actually the Portsmouth bus incognito donning the spare red clown noses/wigs CT has lent them from his wardrobe to get in unnoticed...

[JonB]

Anyone know if Bristol have dropped the kit off yet?

[h again]

Nerima Spireite, on 24 April 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

PC: "This can't be termed a long term project because if we keep being successful we are going to run out of money." Sorry - I might be being rather thick but can someone decode this for me?

You can only go so far on crowds of CFC's size.
That 'so far' is probably the middle of the Championship for a very limited period if we're very lucky. After that it'll be down again, and PC will have a relegation on his record.
He can do better than that. Sad, but fact of life.

[moondog]

azul, on 24 April 2015 - 03:10 PM, said:

What is the Bristol team bus doing at the stadium this early, we haven't moved the kickoff forward have we?

They are now at Ringwood Hall

[clarevoyant.]

moondog, on 24 April 2015 - 04:37 PM, said:

They are now at Ringwood Hall

Anyone know the chef??

[spire77]

Stop deluding yourselves, gutted as I am, PC will be going to Portsmouth. I really hope I'm wrong but he would be a fool to turn it down and stay here with his hands tied. This club has no ambition, never has and never will.

[plannerj]

Zytok, on 24 April 2015 - 12:18 PM, said:

Call me stupid but I still don't get why being successful = no money though. Surely promotion to the championship does not inherently cost us more money to run the club unless we splurge on transfer fees/big wages? I know the bonuses knee-capped us last season (made no money from Paintpot trophy etc). Is this why we can't afford to go up? Forced to give the players massive promotion bonuses and pay rises that would cripple us next season?
Just so disappointing that this week should be a celebration of everything it means being a Chesterfield fan but seems increasingly like the reality is that we're still a tin-pot club with tin-pot ideas. Easy to see where Phil's words came from as it seems he presumably heard whispers of all this a few days before most.
As said in another thread, I'm starting to wonder why we bothered moving from Saltergate if the new ground comes with the same limitations as the old one just with much higher costs.

Anyone with common sense knows that if we had stopped at Saltergate, we wouldn't have had the increase in support and, consequently, even less revenue to fund the Club's development. Get over Saltergate; we all hold it in affection but in latter years it was a dump. If you had seen the dressing rooms, for example, you would wonder why any half-decent player would have joined us. It was a major achievement that some did!

This post has been edited by plannerj: 24 April 2015 - 04:52 PM

[azul]

Dema Reborn, on 24 April 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

Lad across street saw it as well dropping kit off.....

Phew

Thought they had brought the game forward so PC could be at the MAnsfield game \

[azul]

spire77, on 24 April 2015 - 04:47 PM, said:

Stop deluding yourselves, gutted as I am, PC will be going to Portsmouth. I really hope I'm wrong but he would be a fool to turn it down and stay here with his hands tied. This club has no ambition, never has and never will.

Can't agree with that

Even the Sky pundits were scratching their heads wondering why the orange one at Southend would be tempted given his clubs position when he was being linked

[frearsghost]

plannerj, on 24 April 2015 - 04:51 PM, said:

Anyone with common sense knows that if we had stopped at Saltergate, we wouldn't have had the increase in support and, consequently, even less revenue to fund the Club's development. Get over Saltergate; we all hold it in affection but in latter years it was a dump. If you had seen the dressing rooms, for example, you would wonder why any half-decent player would have joined us. It was a major achievement that some did!

The option of staying at Saltergate was based on the ground being redeveloped.

[Dancingwilldoit]

spire77, on 24 April 2015 - 04:47 PM, said:

Stop deluding yourselves, gutted as I am, PC will be going to Portsmouth. I really hope I'm wrong but he would be a fool to turn it down and stay here with his hands tied. This club has no ambition, never has and never will.

So just how much would you be prepared to put in the kitty to allow us to afford the type of players that will make us an ambitious club?
Its real easy to spend other peoples money isn't it.

[Search & Destroy]

Just control the outgoings would be a starting point

[jamie_bolsover]

If we control the outgoings by cutting playing staff the club get slaughtered.
If we cut the non playing staff such as corporate employees then the service diminishes and we lose the additional income.
We sell players that cost us nothing for almost a million quid to cut some of the losses, we get slaughtered (even though it's perfectly normal for a club of our size to sell, indeed many bigger clubs)

We clamour for championship football, we could be on the cusp, a problem and a major one is that the gates we command, on the back of two wonderful seasons, with an excellent product, can at times barely attract 6,000 home fans, yet many call for a top end L1 budget.

Not going to happen, we have to punch above our weight in every department, sell one good player to make way for two or three promising players, it's just the way it is.
To bemoan Allen, the man who has put in more than anyone to me seems very harsh, there's more than him on the board. The man had a five year championship plan, many laughed, but here we are, an uphill task but within reach. Won two titles under two different managers since we moved ground, the former of which can't get out of L2 at a bigger club than us. Both managers must be genius' to achieve such highs with no support from the board :-)
Or maybe the budgets applied aren't that bad and are about right for a club of our size??

It seems to me Allen is in a no win situation, we win three trophies in five years and gain our highest league position in donkeys years and folk moan about financial losses whilst other moan we aren't spending enough.

[newboldsteve]

spire77, on 24 April 2015 - 04:47 PM, said:

Stop deluding yourselves, gutted as I am, PC will be going to Portsmouth. I really hope I'm wrong but he would be a fool to turn it down and stay here with his hands tied. This club has no ambition, never has and never will.

its you whose deluding yourself cause the club as ambition . just cause da not going to throw money at getting promotion don't mean we don't want to go up

[Wooden Spoon]

jamie_bolsover, on 24 April 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

If we control the outgoings by cutting playing staff the club get slaughtered.
If we cut the non playing staff such as corporate employees then the service diminishes and we lose the additional income.
We sell players that cost us nothing for almost a million quid to cut some of the losses, we get slaughtered (even though it's perfectly normal for a club of our size to sell, indeed many bigger clubs)

We clamour for championship football, we could be on the cusp, a problem and a major one is that the gates we command, on the back of two wonderful seasons, with an excellent product, can at times barely attract 6,000 home fans, yet many call for a top end L1 budget.

Not going to happen, we have to punch above our weight in every department, sell one good player to make way for two or three promising players, it's just the way it is.
To bemoan Allen, the man who has put in more than anyone to me seems very harsh, there's more than him on the board. The man had a five year championship plan, many laughed, but here we are, an uphill task but within reach. Won two titles under two different managers since we moved ground, the former of which can't get out of L2 at a bigger club than us. Both managers must be genius' to achieve such highs with no support from the board :-)
Or maybe the budgets applied aren't that bad and are about right for a club of our size??

It seems to me Allen is in a no win situation, we win three trophies in five years and gain our highest league position in donkeys years and folk moan about financial losses whilst other moan we aren't spending enough.

Jamie, we had a turnover of over £6,000,000 and lost over £1,000,000. The wage bill for players wasn't huge.

[DIFH]

a kick in the balls, on 24 April 2015 - 07:35 PM, said:

Jamie, we had a turnover of over £6,000,000 and lost over £1,000,000. The wage bill for players wasn't huge.

Will the CEO explain to the shareholders.

[Search & Destroy]

jamie_bolsover, on 24 April 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

If we control the outgoings by cutting playing staff the club get slaughtered.
If we cut the non playing staff such as corporate employees then the service diminishes and we lose the additional income.
We sell players that cost us nothing for almost a million quid to cut some of the losses, we get slaughtered (even though it's perfectly normal for a club of our size to sell, indeed many bigger clubs)

We clamour for championship football, we could be on the cusp, a problem and a major one is that the gates we command, on the back of two wonderful seasons, with an excellent product, can at times barely attract 6,000 home fans, yet many call for a top end L1 budget.

Not going to happen, we have to punch above our weight in every department, sell one good player to make way for two or three promising players, it's just the way it is.
To bemoan Allen, the man who has put in more than anyone to me seems very harsh, there's more than him on the board. The man had a five year championship plan, many laughed, but here we are, an uphill task but within reach. Won two titles under two different managers since we moved ground, the former of which can't get out of L2 at a bigger club than us. Both managers must be genius' to achieve such highs with no support from the board :-)
Or maybe the budgets applied aren't that bad and are about right for a club of our size??

It seems to me Allen is in a no win situation, we win three trophies in five years and gain our highest league position in donkeys years and folk moan about financial losses whilst other moan we aren't spending enough.

Can't agree sorry, Bristol City Sheffield United, Barnsley Bradford Preston, MK Seindon Coventry then us isn't it?
9 th best gates? 365 day income, high ticket prices, tiny budget and we have to find £1m in player sales to survive.

How do the others get on with no player sales?

[lindave]

Nerima Spireite, on 24 April 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

PC: "This can't be termed a long term project because if we keep being successful we are going to run out of money." Sorry - I might be being rather thick but can someone decode this for me?

And me.