[calvin plummers socks]

edmonds200, on 20 January 2015 - 07:48 PM, said:

Either Chris Turner doesn't know whats been going on or he is deliberately trying to paint Rommy in a black picture.

FACTS
Rommy had been offered a derisory offer back in November. Rommy was seeing what other players in the squad were on and just couldn't sign what was on offer. He felt he was equal to certain squad players that were nowhere near the first team. Thats all. He wasn't being greedy and never expected to match the earnings of even the top 10 earners in the squad.

He never has posted on any social media site.

He had at least 1 very good offer back in August but wanted to stay at CFC because of the way they play football and because of the Paul Cook factor. He was actually in my car when he was persuaded not to sign for Bristol Rovers because Drew Talbot was going to be out for months and he was promised a contract by the end of that window. It never materialised.

He does have an ongoing building development plan in Plymouth but is not under financial pressure due to assurances by me. He just wanted a fair deal. He is far too proud for me or anyone to sub him which is why he took the job at Jacksons. At that time he wasn't starting games and taking home just over £1000 per month! He then had too endure being called Pie man by the chief exec!!

Even last Thursday when he was with me in Plymouth for his planning decision he was desperate to sign for CFC. They were going to call him by 12 o clock but never did. All the time the agent from India was pressuring him strongly. It wasn't until Friday morning when he met CFC before they travelled to Swindon that an acceptable offer was made but it was too late. CFC had had since August and it wasn't until Bradford, Scunthorpe, Yeovil and India offered a good contract did CFC take him seriously.
He was a very popular member of the squad and well respected. Garry Roberts even offered to pay him not to go to jacksons so that he was fresh for matches as he viewed him as an important cog in the team and wanted to ensure he picked up win bonuses!

Rommy has already told me not to post on this site before and will be furious that I have but I can't stand by and watch a very good friends character be assassinated by people who do not know him or the facts. If he was offered what he is worth he would be back in a shot after his Indian adventure if paul Cook is still at Chesterfield. He genuinely would still be a Spierite if he had been treated with the respect he deserves. Good Luck on Saturday and for the rest of the season.

Good post.

How can Chria Turner call anyone Pie Man . A tad ironic no?

[Guest_freelander2_*]

edmonds200, on 20 January 2015 - 07:48 PM, said:

Either Chris Turner doesn't know whats been going on or he is deliberately trying to paint Rommy in a black picture.

FACTS
Rommy had been offered a derisory offer back in November. Rommy was seeing what other players in the squad were on and just couldn't sign what was on offer. He felt he was equal to certain squad players that were nowhere near the first team. Thats all. He wasn't being greedy and never expected to match the earnings of even the top 10 earners in the squad.

He never has posted on any social media site.

He had at least 1 very good offer back in August but wanted to stay at CFC because of the way they play football and because of the Paul Cook factor. He was actually in my car when he was persuaded not to sign for Bristol Rovers because Drew Talbot was going to be out for months and he was promised a contract by the end of that window. It never materialised.

He does have an ongoing building development plan in Plymouth but is not under financial pressure due to assurances by me. He just wanted a fair deal. He is far too proud for me or anyone to sub him which is why he took the job at Jacksons. At that time he wasn't starting games and taking home just over £1000 per month! He then had too endure being called Pie man by the chief exec!!

Even last Thursday when he was with me in Plymouth for his planning decision he was desperate to sign for CFC. They were going to call him by 12 o clock but never did. All the time the agent from India was pressuring him strongly. It wasn't until Friday morning when he met CFC before they travelled to Swindon that an acceptable offer was made but it was too late. CFC had had since August and it wasn't until Bradford, Scunthorpe, Yeovil and India offered a good contract did CFC take him seriously.
He was a very popular member of the squad and well respected. Garry Roberts even offered to pay him not to go to jacksons so that he was fresh for matches as he viewed him as an important cog in the team and wanted to ensure he picked up win bonuses!

Rommy has already told me not to post on this site before and will be furious that I have but I can't stand by and watch a very good friends character be assassinated by people who do not know him or the facts. If he was offered what he is worth he would be back in a shot after his Indian adventure if paul Cook is still at Chesterfield. He genuinely would still be a Spierite if he had been treated with the respect he deserves. Good Luck on Saturday and for the rest of the season.

Thank you for posting.

[moondog]

h again, on 20 January 2015 - 07:39 PM, said:

After a close season in which no interest was shown in him whatsoever? After the first couple of months of the new season, ditto? After he'd been chucked out by a Plymouth team that said he couldn't hack it? After lots of criticism by the fans of a L2 team where he'd struggled to get a game?
And then offered a contract by a high-flying side in L1, under a Manager he'd always worked well with, and he still wouldn't sign because he thought he could do better?
Pull the other one. He was waiting for the Indian season is the only logical conclusion.

So why wasnt he off on 1st January then ? he's missed the entireity of the Indian pre season and a couple of weeks on a better wage

[h again]

freelander2, on 20 January 2015 - 07:46 PM, said:

Leam Richardson gave an interview recently, stating that a contract offer had been on the table for a few months and if Boco wanted to sign it, it was there. If the contract offer was P poor, why would any player, especially one that's done OK, sign it approaching a transfer window?

There are some extremely naive people.

Because if he didn't he could be out on his ear at any time, and particularly during a transfer window if the gaffer signed new players.
And because he wasn't likely to get any offers in the transfer window when he hadn't had any in the close season or at any time since, and had been a failure at Plymouth in L2.
The bloke had every incentive to sign whatever was put in front of him, and try to earn better by his performances.
Unless there was something else. Trip to India, perhaps?

[valemadness]

edmonds200, on 20 January 2015 - 07:48 PM, said:

Either Chris Turner doesn't know whats been going on or he is deliberately trying to paint Rommy in a black picture.

FACTS
Rommy had been offered a derisory offer back in November. Rommy was seeing what other players in the squad were on and just couldn't sign what was on offer. He felt he was equal to certain squad players that were nowhere near the first team. Thats all. He wasn't being greedy and never expected to match the earnings of even the top 10 earners in the squad.

He never has posted on any social media site.

He had at least 1 very good offer back in August but wanted to stay at CFC because of the way they play football and because of the Paul Cook factor. He was actually in my car when he was persuaded not to sign for Bristol Rovers because Drew Talbot was going to be out for months and he was promised a contract by the end of that window. It never materialised.

He does have an ongoing building development plan in Plymouth but is not under financial pressure due to assurances by me. He just wanted a fair deal. He is far too proud for me or anyone to sub him which is why he took the job at Jacksons. At that time he wasn't starting games and taking home just over £1000 per month! He then had too endure being called Pie man by the chief exec!!

Even last Thursday when he was with me in Plymouth for his planning decision he was desperate to sign for CFC. They were going to call him by 12 o clock but never did. All the time the agent from India was pressuring him strongly. It wasn't until Friday morning when he met CFC before they travelled to Swindon that an acceptable offer was made but it was too late. CFC had had since August and it wasn't until Bradford, Scunthorpe, Yeovil and India offered a good contract did CFC take him seriously.
He was a very popular member of the squad and well respected. Garry Roberts even offered to pay him not to go to jacksons so that he was fresh for matches as he viewed him as an important cog in the team and wanted to ensure he picked up win bonuses!

Rommy has already told me not to post on this site before and will be furious that I have but I can't stand by and watch a very good friends character be assassinated by people who do not know him or the facts. If he was offered what he is worth he would be back in a shot after his Indian adventure if paul Cook is still at Chesterfield. He genuinely would still be a Spierite if he had been treated with the respect he deserves. Good Luck on Saturday and for the rest of the season.

So what you're saying is he signed for this Indian team between Thursday lunchtime and Friday morning. Tbf if he'd really wanted to stay here and as you say the contract offered Friday was good, and he hadn't signed for India, then it wasn't too late. It's starting to sound a bit like last summer when he was signing for us and then at the last minute turned round and signed for Plymouth.

[dim view]

h again, on 20 January 2015 - 07:49 PM, said:

In this case, logic would suggest that Mr.Turner would not accuse somebody of letting Cookie down if he hadn't discussed the matter with Cookie - as he must do, if only to discuss a replacement.

well, let's see if PC endorses that view when he is interviewed. In the past, he's described Boco as a mate. I'm sure the subject won't be embargoed, will it?.

[moondog]

h again, on 20 January 2015 - 07:49 PM, said:

It's up to the individual to decide which is the more likely scenario. We all know nothing, so we have to apply a bit of logic based on our assumptions of how things work.
In this case, logic would suggest that Mr.Turner would not accuse somebody of letting Cookie down if he hadn't discussed the matter with Cookie - as he must do, if only to discuss a replacement.

I think the point is a CEO playing a key role in the recruitment of players shouldn't be publicly slagging them off for not accepting a contract offer

[Guest_freelander2_*]

edmonds200, on 20 January 2015 - 07:48 PM, said:

Either Chris Turner doesn't know whats been going on or he is deliberately trying to paint Rommy in a black picture.

FACTS
Rommy had been offered a derisory offer back in November. Rommy was seeing what other players in the squad were on and just couldn't sign what was on offer. He felt he was equal to certain squad players that were nowhere near the first team. Thats all. He wasn't being greedy and never expected to match the earnings of even the top 10 earners in the squad.

He never has posted on any social media site.

He had at least 1 very good offer back in August but wanted to stay at CFC because of the way they play football and because of the Paul Cook factor. He was actually in my car when he was persuaded not to sign for Bristol Rovers because Drew Talbot was going to be out for months and he was promised a contract by the end of that window. It never materialised.

He does have an ongoing building development plan in Plymouth but is not under financial pressure due to assurances by me. He just wanted a fair deal. He is far too proud for me or anyone to sub him which is why he took the job at Jacksons. At that time he wasn't starting games and taking home just over £1000 per month! He then had too endure being called Pie man by the chief exec!!

Even last Thursday when he was with me in Plymouth for his planning decision he was desperate to sign for CFC. They were going to call him by 12 o clock but never did. All the time the agent from India was pressuring him strongly. It wasn't until Friday morning when he met CFC before they travelled to Swindon that an acceptable offer was made but it was too late. CFC had had since August and it wasn't until Bradford, Scunthorpe, Yeovil and India offered a good contract did CFC take him seriously.
He was a very popular member of the squad and well respected. Garry Roberts even offered to pay him not to go to jacksons so that he was fresh for matches as he viewed him as an important cog in the team and wanted to ensure he picked up win bonuses!

Rommy has already told me not to post on this site before and will be furious that I have but I can't stand by and watch a very good friends character be assassinated by people who do not know him or the facts. If he was offered what he is worth he would be back in a shot after his Indian adventure if paul Cook is still at Chesterfield. He genuinely would still be a Spierite if he had been treated with the respect he deserves. Good Luck on Saturday and for the rest of the season.

When questioned on the Boco arrangement, both Paul Cook & Leam Richardson appeared to be OK with the agreement, fair assumption?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

h again, on 20 January 2015 - 07:16 PM, said:

All this is quite honestly unbelievable. Nobody knows damn-all about what's gone on but you're all falling over yourselves to blame Chris Turner.
For a start I find something a bit suspicious about a footballer who doesn't want to sign a contract, even for six months. The only reason for not doing so is if there's something better on the table elsewhere, which there obviously wasn't in this country. Therefore Boco had a very good idea he was off to India, which he has a perfect right to do, but didn't tell PC about it, which would have been the honest approach but would mean he might not have got so many games and therefore less money. Nothing illegal, and all in the player's interest, but it would have been more honest to have told PC the situation instead of leaving at short notice when he was a member of the first team and leaving PC, who has been more than good to him over the years, to pick up the pieces.
Good player, and I'd have liked to have kept him, but a loose cannon when it comes to reliability, as has been demonstrated over the years.
And do you all honestly think Mr. Turner would have said Boco was letting PC down if Cookie hadn't been bending his ear about it - and quite rightly.
I know as little about it is as any one of you, but the above represents a far more likely scenario, given the way the world works, than any other. But a witch hunt is so much more fun.
Pathetic.

Well someone knew enough to report that Rommy was off to India last Saturday.

And how do you know he 'didn't want to sign a contract'? A definitive assertion based on what? He'd rather be working part-time at Jacksons?

Then "...a loose cannon when it comes to reliability, as has been demonstrated over the years"? When? Isn't this the same player who's been in and out the side without complaint and given his all when called upon?

If you choose to accept 'Teflon' Turner's comments as gospel, dismissing the idea that he might, just perhaps, be putting another pro-Club spin on events, then that's your prerogative.

However I reckon many will view this attempt to portray Rommy Boco as some manipulative and dishonest mercenary "pathetic".

[h again]

calvin plummers socks, on 20 January 2015 - 07:56 PM, said:

Good post.

How can Chria Turner call anyone Pie Man . A tad ironic no?

Because he worked in a pie factory?

Deadly insult of friendly banter? Sort of thing any of the other players might have said in fun, isn't it?

[calvin plummers socks]

h again, on 20 January 2015 - 08:10 PM, said:

Because he worked in a pie factory?

Deadly insult of friendly banter? Sort of thing any of the other players might have said in fun, isn't it?

Changing room banter is one thing- Chris 'eaten all the pies' Turner is no longer in the changing room-he's up in the boardroom.

[dim view]

edmonds200, on 20 January 2015 - 07:48 PM, said:

Even last Thursday when he was with me in Plymouth for his planning decision he was desperate to sign for CFC. They were going to call him by 12 o clock but never did. All the time the agent from India was pressuring him strongly. It wasn't until Friday morning when he met CFC before they travelled to Swindon that an acceptable offer was made but it was too late.

This isn't right. There is no way a professional footballer preparing to play one of the biggest matches of the season would be allowed to travel to Plymuff on a Thursday, then back to town, then back down to Swindon on a Friday.

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dim view, on 20 January 2015 - 08:12 PM, said:

This isn't right. There is no way a professional footballer preparing to play one of the biggest matches of the season would be allowed to travel to Plymuff on a Thursday, then back to town, then back down to Swindon on a Friday.

Perhaps Jane & Trev gave him the afternoon off!

[h again]

dim view, on 20 January 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

well, let's see if PC endorses that view when he is interviewed. In the past, he's described Boco as a mate. I'm sure the subject won't be embargoed, will it?.

"I'm disappointed that Romy decided to leave us. He was a member of the first team, had been offered a contract, and we're sorry to lose him at this moment with a big game coming up".

You don't slag somebody off in a public interview, though Cookie might go a bit further than the above. If you cam make your feelings known through a third party, so much the better.

[moondog]

dim view, on 20 January 2015 - 08:12 PM, said:

This isn't right. There is no way a professional footballer preparing to play one of the biggest matches of the season would be allowed to travel to Plymuff on a Thursday, then back to town, then back down to Swindon on a Friday.

perfectly possible when he isn't under contract

[edmonds200]

It was too late Vale Madness because Bharat said they would withdraw the offer if it wasn't signed by close of play Thursday so he emailed it across on Thursday afternoon. He was waiting for a call from CFC all Thursday but only got calls from leam and Roberts. I think Cookie only called him eventually after 5pm when we were in the planning decision meeting. On the Friday CFC said they could find a way to get out of Bharat contract but Rommy rightly thought it was too late as CFC had had 6 months to sort him out. He was gutted as he wanted to play Saturday at Derby and help CFC get to championship. I have had lots of Plymouth Players live in my flats but he is the most genuine and honest guys you could meet. Just ask his Jackson colleagues!

[h again]

moondog, on 20 January 2015 - 08:06 PM, said:

I think the point is a CEO playing a key role in the recruitment of players shouldn't be publicly slagging them off for not accepting a contract offer

He didn't criticise him for not accepting a contract - he criticised him for letting Cookie down.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

edmonds200, on 20 January 2015 - 08:17 PM, said:

It was too late Vale Madness because Bharat said they would withdraw the offer if it wasn't signed by close of play Thursday so he emailed it across on Thursday afternoon. He was waiting for a call from CFC all Thursday but only got calls from leam and Roberts. I think Cookie only called him eventually after 5pm when we were in the planning decision meeting. On the Friday CFC said they could find a way to get out of Bharat contract but Rommy rightly thought it was too late as CFC had had 6 months to sort him out. He was gutted as he wanted to play Saturday at Derby and help CFC get to championship. I have had lots of Plymouth Players live in my flats but he is the most genuine and honest guys you could meet. Just ask his Jackson colleagues!

Oh well he's gone now so you can jog on, he's nothing to do with town anymore. Thanks and good luck to him but that's about it. I'm more interested in who will be the replacement

[Goku]

thanks for posting that, edmonds. sad if true but i'm not so sure everything matches up

This post has been edited by Goku: 20 January 2015 - 08:23 PM

[Mr Mercury]

So we help him pick up his career after he initially snubbed us, before trying to change the clubs mind, and move to Plymouth, and when that fails we take him on, then he's off to India, for whatever reason, but if that doesn't work out he'd love to play here again?
Am I missing something here? But he had chance to sign for us in the summer of 2013, he didn't , he's had chance to sign for us again, up until last week, but again he hasn't, but he might like to try again if he returns from India..sorry folks, and I can understand the indignation from some, especially given CTs recent record, but on the Boco issue it seems far more cloudy than either side wish to paint, anyway he's not going to sign , so can we move on!