[moondog]

calvin plummers socks, on 20 January 2015 - 03:18 PM, said:

Don't see why Boco has let anyone down if he was on a match to match contract?
I'm guessing the Indian deal has been in pipeline for a while though? (When I went it took ages to get a visa and a 5 hour wait in an industrial estate near Southall to pick it up)!
You can't just jet off over there without a bit of planning I don't think?

correct I've always fancied a trip to Goa but have been put off by the visa process

[Spireite82]

Obviously CT feels that Boco has let the club down. As a supporter he hasn't let me down; I think he's always given 100% when he's played. He isn't irreplaceable but I think he will be missed as he was a very strong utility player. IMO there are a few players on our books that I'd let go before Boco if I could choose...

If he's been given a better contract in India than the one(s) we've offered him, then I day good luck to him.

As supporters aren't privy to the full details, I think it's quite unprofessional for CT to publicly say he's let Paul Cook down...

[dim view]

Spireite82, on 20 January 2015 - 05:58 PM, said:

Obviously CT feels that Boco has let the club down. As a supporter he hasn't let me down; I think he's always given 100% when he's played. He isn't irreplaceable but I think he will be missed as he was a very strong utility player....

His attributes are almost identical to Drew's.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

>Ahem<

'Well it seems we've now paid a far higher price for not tying him down on a proper contract - he's apparently signed for a club in INDIA!'

Posted that last Saturday ('A Tale Of Two Players') and the bloke who passed it on, good old 'Deepthroat' himself, paints a very different picture to the one the Club/Turner seem to be peddling.

According to him Rommy is a polite, hardworking and unassuming chap who's been asking CFC for something more permanent for months. Only to be repeatedly snubbed. Then January arrived and a number of foreign outfits, alongside Bradford, displayed an interest. At which point CFC suddenly started talking deals. However Rommy subsequently signed the dotted line best for him, as anyone would, which means we've lost a L1 standard player who we could've kept if a modest salary had been offered earlier.

And is it true Rommy Boco has been accused of making critical comments on social media? The story I'm told says he doesn't even subscribe to the platform in question.

It doesn't surprise me that the CEO is now trying to smear someone who's contributed to our success this season, but I'll allow everyone to decide for themselves who to believe.

[Westbars Spireite]

moondog, on 20 January 2015 - 12:08 PM, said:

Totally out of order for Turner to attack Boco. He's got every right to turn down a contract. which ought to have been offered to him in August when his stock was low

He doesn't know when to shut his mouth and when not to. He hasn't let anyone down. If anything he's left Jackson in the lurch meaning the afternoon shift rota needs re-doing. But not CFC.

This post has been edited by Westbars Spireite: 20 January 2015 - 06:44 PM

[h again]

All this is quite honestly unbelievable. Nobody knows damn-all about what's gone on but you're all falling over yourselves to blame Chris Turner.
For a start I find something a bit suspicious about a footballer who doesn't want to sign a contract, even for six months. The only reason for not doing so is if there's something better on the table elsewhere, which there obviously wasn't in this country. Therefore Boco had a very good idea he was off to India, which he has a perfect right to do, but didn't tell PC about it, which would have been the honest approach but would mean he might not have got so many games and therefore less money. Nothing illegal, and all in the player's interest, but it would have been more honest to have told PC the situation instead of leaving at short notice when he was a member of the first team and leaving PC, who has been more than good to him over the years, to pick up the pieces.
Good player, and I'd have liked to have kept him, but a loose cannon when it comes to reliability, as has been demonstrated over the years.
And do you all honestly think Mr. Turner would have said Boco was letting PC down if Cookie hadn't been bending his ear about it - and quite rightly.
I know as little about it is as any one of you, but the above represents a far more likely scenario, given the way the world works, than any other. But a witch hunt is so much more fun.
Pathetic.

[calvin plummers socks]

h again, on 20 January 2015 - 07:16 PM, said:

All this is quite honestly unbelievable. Nobody knows damn-all about what's gone on but you're all falling over yourselves to blame Chris Turner.
For a start I find something a bit suspicious about a footballer who doesn't want to sign a contract, even for six months. The only reason for not doing so is if there's something better on the table elsewhere, which there obviously wasn't in this country. Therefore Boco had a very good idea he was off to India, which he has a perfect right to do, but didn't tell PC about it, which would have been the honest approach but would mean he might not have got so many games and therefore less money. Nothing illegal, and all in the player's interest, but it would have been more honest to have told PC the situation instead of leaving at short notice when he was a member of the first team and leaving PC, who has been more than good to him over the years, to pick up the pieces.
Good player, and I'd have liked to have kept him, but a loose cannon when it comes to reliability, as has been demonstrated over the years.
And do you all honestly think Mr. Turner would have said Boco was letting PC down if Cookie hadn't been bending his ear about it - and quite rightly.
I know as little about it is as any one of you, but the above represents a far more likely scenario, given the way the world works, than any other. But a witch hunt is so much more fun.
Pathetic.

It's all opinions - to call one that differs pathetic is a bit odd.

[Beelzebub]

calvin plummers socks, on 20 January 2015 - 07:18 PM, said:

It's all opinions - to call one that differs pathetic is a bit odd.

Not really, there has been far too much character assassination on here recently, a real witch hunt, it really is pathetic behaviour especially when based on hearsay and tittle tattle. Cyber bullying, I think it's called. Some usually (relatively) sensible posters seem to be getting involved too. They should know better.

[moondog]

h again, on 20 January 2015 - 07:16 PM, said:

All this is quite honestly unbelievable. Nobody knows damn-all about what's gone on but you're all falling over yourselves to blame Chris Turner.
For a start I find something a bit suspicious about a footballer who doesn't want to sign a contract, even for six months. The only reason for not doing so is if there's something better on the table elsewhere, which there obviously wasn't in this country. Therefore Boco had a very good idea he was off to India, which he has a perfect right to do, but didn't tell PC about it, which would have been the honest approach but would mean he might not have got so many games and therefore less money. Nothing illegal, and all in the player's interest, but it would have been more honest to have told PC the situation instead of leaving at short notice when he was a member of the first team and leaving PC, who has been more than good to him over the years, to pick up the pieces.
Good player, and I'd have liked to have kept him, but a loose cannon when it comes to reliability, as has been demonstrated over the years.
And do you all honestly think Mr. Turner would have said Boco was letting PC down if Cookie hadn't been bending his ear about it - and quite rightly.
I know as little about it is as any one of you, but the above represents a far more likely scenario, given the way the world works, than any other. But a witch hunt is so much more fun.
Pathetic.

It seems to me Boco was totally up front he didn't sign the eventually offered contract because he thought he could do better elsewhere. If his move was a surprise to the club it shows he didn't try to use the Indian offer to improve the club's offer which many players would have done, all of the indications are he was given a take it or leave it contract and he chose to leave it

[Westbars Spireite]

Who's being cyber-bullied? That's quite a claim.

[h again]

calvin plummers socks, on 20 January 2015 - 07:18 PM, said:

It's all opinions - to call one that differs pathetic is a bit odd.

The opinions may or may not be correct. The attitude that seeks a scapegoat on no evidence is the pathetic bit.

[SpireiteFitzy]

h again, on 20 January 2015 - 07:16 PM, said:

All this is quite honestly unbelievable. Nobody knows damn-all about what's gone on but you're all falling over yourselves to blame Chris Turner.
For a start I find something a bit suspicious about a footballer who doesn't want to sign a contract, even for six months. The only reason for not doing so is if there's something better on the table elsewhere, which there obviously wasn't in this country. Therefore Boco had a very good idea he was off to India, which he has a perfect right to do, but didn't tell PC about it, which would have been the honest approach but would mean he might not have got so many games and therefore less money. Nothing illegal, and all in the player's interest, but it would have been more honest to have told PC the situation instead of leaving at short notice when he was a member of the first team and leaving PC, who has been more than good to him over the years, to pick up the pieces.
Good player, and I'd have liked to have kept him, but a loose cannon when it comes to reliability, as has been demonstrated over the years.
And do you all honestly think Mr. Turner would have said Boco was letting PC down if Cookie hadn't been bending his ear about it - and quite rightly.
I know as little about it is as any one of you, but the above represents a far more likely scenario, given the way the world works, than any other. But a witch hunt is so much more fun.
Pathetic.

Isn't that a bit contradictory. You slam people for blaming Turner when they have no idea what's going on but then go on to paint a picture of Boco, also with the same lack of knowledge, and then claim it to be the more likely scenario.

[calvin plummers socks]

Westbars Spireite, on 20 January 2015 - 07:27 PM, said:

Who's being cyber-bullied? That's quite a claim.

I think he means Turner- ah bless him

[h again]

moondog, on 20 January 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

It seems to me Boco was totally up front he didn't sign the eventually offered contract because he thought he could do better elsewhere. If his move was a surprise to the club it shows he didn't try to use the Indian offer to improve the club's offer which many players would have done, all of the indications are he was given a take it or leave it contract and he chose to leave it

After a close season in which no interest was shown in him whatsoever? After the first couple of months of the new season, ditto? After he'd been chucked out by a Plymouth team that said he couldn't hack it? After lots of criticism by the fans of a L2 team where he'd struggled to get a game?
And then offered a contract by a high-flying side in L1, under a Manager he'd always worked well with, and he still wouldn't sign because he thought he could do better?
Pull the other one. He was waiting for the Indian season is the only logical conclusion.

This post has been edited by h again: 20 January 2015 - 07:41 PM

[Bonnyman]

You would think we had lost ronaldo not a journeyman player who could not hit a cows a55 with a banjo.

[Westbars Spireite]

h again, on 20 January 2015 - 07:39 PM, said:

After a close season in which no interest was shown in him whatsoever? After the first couple of months of the new season, ditto? After he'd been chucked out by a Plymouth team that said he couldn't hack it? After lots of criticism by the fans of a L2 team where he'd struggled to get a game?
And then offered a contract by a high-flying side in L1, under a Manager he'd always worked well with, and he still wouldn't sign because he thought he could do better?
Pull the other one.

Why else didn't he sign it? What other logical explanation is there?

[Exharboroughspireite]

A mountain out of a mole hill. A decent player who put a good shift in. He's off somewhere new, fair play to him for trotting out for us whilst pie packing. In 20 years time when I'm reminiscing about the top players I have seen in the blue shirt, Boco won't be in there. He wasn't the messiah, just a hardworking bloke who never really let us down. Let's all calm down a little.

This post has been edited by Exharboroughspireite: 20 January 2015 - 07:46 PM

[Guest_freelander2_*]

Leam Richardson gave an interview recently, stating that a contract offer had been on the table for a few months and if Boco wanted to sign it, it was there. If the contract offer was P poor, why would any player, especially one that's done OK, sign it approaching a transfer window?

There are some extremely naive people.

[edmonds200]

Either Chris Turner doesn't know whats been going on or he is deliberately trying to paint Rommy in a black picture.

FACTS
Rommy had been offered a derisory offer back in November. Rommy was seeing what other players in the squad were on and just couldn't sign what was on offer. He felt he was equal to certain squad players that were nowhere near the first team. Thats all. He wasn't being greedy and never expected to match the earnings of even the top 10 earners in the squad.

He never has posted on any social media site.

He had at least 1 very good offer back in August but wanted to stay at CFC because of the way they play football and because of the Paul Cook factor. He was actually in my car when he was persuaded not to sign for Bristol Rovers because Drew Talbot was going to be out for months and he was promised a contract by the end of that window. It never materialised.

He does have an ongoing building development plan in Plymouth but is not under financial pressure due to assurances by me. He just wanted a fair deal. He is far too proud for me or anyone to sub him which is why he took the job at Jacksons. At that time he wasn't starting games and taking home just over £1000 per month! He then had too endure being called Pie man by the chief exec!!

Even last Thursday when he was with me in Plymouth for his planning decision he was desperate to sign for CFC. They were going to call him by 12 o clock but never did. All the time the agent from India was pressuring him strongly. It wasn't until Friday morning when he met CFC before they travelled to Swindon that an acceptable offer was made but it was too late. CFC had had since August and it wasn't until Bradford, Scunthorpe, Yeovil and India offered a good contract did CFC take him seriously.
He was a very popular member of the squad and well respected. Garry Roberts even offered to pay him not to go to jacksons so that he was fresh for matches as he viewed him as an important cog in the team and wanted to ensure he picked up win bonuses!

Rommy has already told me not to post on this site before and will be furious that I have but I can't stand by and watch a very good friends character be assassinated by people who do not know him or the facts. If he was offered what he is worth he would be back in a shot after his Indian adventure if paul Cook is still at Chesterfield. He genuinely would still be a Spierite if he had been treated with the respect he deserves. Good Luck on Saturday and for the rest of the season.

[h again]

SpireiteFitzy, on 20 January 2015 - 07:37 PM, said:

Isn't that a bit contradictory. You slam people for blaming Turner when they have no idea what's going on but then go on to paint a picture of Boco, also with the same lack of knowledge, and then claim it to be the more likely scenario.

It's up to the individual to decide which is the more likely scenario. We all know nothing, so we have to apply a bit of logic based on our assumptions of how things work.
In this case, logic would suggest that Mr.Turner would not accuse somebody of letting Cookie down if he hadn't discussed the matter with Cookie - as he must do, if only to discuss a replacement.