[spireitetoo]

gloucestershireblue, on 28 December 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

1640 town fans!!

Some fiddlung of the figures.....must have been more....we and others didn't get issued a ticket at the turnstyles

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Norton Blue, on 28 December 2014 - 04:53 PM, said:

Maybe not akinb - though i've never asked him which he prefers - but he's not 'out of position' by playing there, as he's more than capable of doing so.

That's a bit like saying Clucas isn't playing out of position at left back. He's proved he's capable of doing it but......

[Westbars Spireite]

Norton Blue, on 28 December 2014 - 05:08 PM, said:

Yes, i scrape my knuckles on the ground too and get agressive when i cant get my way.

Shown up for lack of knowledge? Really? What pearl of wisdom did you manage to prove? Certainly not one about players positions.

You don't understand the meaning of 'playing out of position'.

Simple as that.

[Guest_freelander2_*]

I reckon that's a stonking result today. Delighted.

[Westbars Spireite]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 28 December 2014 - 05:13 PM, said:

That's a bit like saying Clucas isn't playing out of position at left back. He's proved he's capable of doing it but......

Exactly.

There would be a point when that would change but not yet.

[DMU Blue]

Take a point. They were crap. We lacked any creativity on the whole.

Jones needs to be started in the next game. He offers us an outlet.

We got a bit overrun in the middle in 442 but when Armand went off nothing stuck. Roberts was poor again, you know he's struggling for form when he tries to do too much.

Darikwa and Raglan outstanding. Clucas did well. Boco average. Doyle ran around lots.

Take a point. Another massive stadium 2/3s empty.

[Norton Blue]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 28 December 2014 - 05:13 PM, said:

That's a bit like saying Clucas isn't playing out of position at left back. He's proved he's capable of doing it but......

you could say Thierry Henry was always played out of position on the left wing, until he was bought by Arsenal and played 'out of position' up front. He was bought as a LM, and we know LM's cant play up front, just ask westbars 😉

People get too hung up on positional tags, and unfortunately it doesnt help with understanding the requirements of the game.

[Norton Blue]

Westbars Spireite, on 28 December 2014 - 05:18 PM, said:

You don't understand the meaning of 'playing out of position'.

Simple as that.

Ok WB. I do understand a player's capability is far more important than their FM positional tag, from which they dare not move for fear of death!

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Norton Blue, on 28 December 2014 - 05:27 PM, said:

you could say Thierry Henry was always played out of position on the left wing, until he was bought by Arsenal and played 'out of position' up front. He was bought as a LM, and we know LM's cant play up front, just ask westbars 😉

People get too hung up on positional tags, and unfortunately it doesnt help with understanding the requirements of the game.

The requirements are not always matched by capabilities. Just because a player can and does play a few matches in a different position it doesn't mean it is the one they are better at or more accustomed to. You couldn't argue that TH was played out of position on the left wing as at that point he had only ever played there and then he was converted full time like Talbot was to full back., By your simplistic view we could get all our outfield players to play in different roles and you would say they weren't out of position, it was just a requirement of the game for them to play elsewhere

[Tylerdurdencfc]

Ritchie h started out as a striker so technically he's always been played out of podium ever since according to some on here

[Wooden Spoon]

Norton Blue, on 28 December 2014 - 05:27 PM, said:

you could say Thierry Henry was always played out of position on the left wing, until he was bought by Arsenal and played 'out of position' up front. He was bought as a LM, and we know LM's cant play up front, just ask westbars 😉

People get too hung up on positional tags, and unfortunately it doesnt help with understanding the requirements of the game.

now your just being silly

[Bonnyman]

The only position ritchie has is the bench at his age technically he is out of position if he is on the pitch..well done to him for doing a job but it weakened the side dramatically.

This post has been edited by bonnyman: 28 December 2014 - 06:07 PM

[Westbars Spireite]

Norton Blue, on 28 December 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

Ok WB. I do understand a player's capability is far more important than their FM positional tag, from which they dare not move for fear of death!

I agree with you actually. It doesn't mean what I said isn't right though!

[Norton Blue]

Westbars Spireite, on 28 December 2014 - 06:25 PM, said:

I agree with you actually. It doesn't mean what I said isn't right though!

Lol

a kick in the balls, on 28 December 2014 - 06:03 PM, said:

now your just being silly

I know.... There was a give away

[Norton Blue]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 28 December 2014 - 05:52 PM, said:

The requirements are not always matched by capabilities. Just because a player can and does play a few matches in a different position it doesn't mean it is the one they are better at or more accustomed to. You couldn't argue that TH was played out of position on the left wing as at that point he had only ever played there and then he was converted full time like Talbot was to full back., By your simplistic view we could get all our outfield players to play in different roles and you would say they weren't out of position, it was just a requirement of the game for them to play elsewhere

EEE Re requirements v capabilities. Couldnt agree more. However Ritchie H has more than enough of the capabilities to match the requirements. I remember his trial game with us - funnily enough in CM ( Westbars i'm not making that up) - vs Buxton and he ran the show. The other midfielder was the young lad connor clifford who went to sounthend.

incidentally, before the game i was thinking, Clifford - sign, Humphries - dont bother. So so pleased Cooky went the other way.

[h again]

We rode our luck a bit too much for comfort today. I was surprised Armand was taken off - when you're playing without a midfield you need somebody up front to make something of high balls, because they ain't going to come through on the floor. Admittedly he wasn't very good, but he gives another dimension - in the second half they just won everything in the air easily and the ball kept coming back at us.
Not a bad point without Ryan and Morsy though - but a good illustration of how we'll miss them if we're daft enough to sell.

[Waller is my hero]

spireitetoo, on 28 December 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

Some fiddlung of the figures.....must have been more....we and others didn't get issued a ticket at the turnstyles

Looked a lot more to me aswell! There was never over 8000+ of their fans!!

[bullseyerob]

that's a cracking point against a team that's not won home league game since October so there due a home result sooner or later though we nearly lost it in last ten.so to follow back to back wins with a well earned but lucky draw I will tek that...results at this time of year usually define a season .unbeaten over xmas.can we now have a run in the second half like we did 94/95 season.

[Bobby Darling]

h again, on 28 December 2014 - 07:22 PM, said:

We rode our luck a bit too much for comfort today. I was surprised Armand was taken off - when you're playing without a midfield you need somebody up front to make something of high balls, because they ain't going to come through on the floor. Admittedly he wasn't very good, but he gives another dimension - in the second half they just won everything in the air easily and the ball kept coming back at us.
Not a bad point without Ryan and Morsy though - but a good illustration of how we'll miss them if we're daft enough to sell.

Armand was poor and didn't win anything in the air plus he was booked for being an idiot. We played much better in the second half as a result of the change. I would have settled for a point before the game but I thought they were one of the poorer sides that we have played. We struggled up front today. I thought that Doyle had one of his best all round games on Friday: today he failed to hold balls up and didn't look a threat.

[bullseyerob]

if anyone wants to be wound up like ive just been go on THE COVENTRY CITY FC WALL and see there tweets and how weve been slagged off.One clot said he wouldn't pay in washers to watch our shower.Another was insinuating we shouldn't be in the same division as them. My how the mighty have fallen and still think there famous.