[Andy Spireite]

Steve Fletcher was sat just in front of me today scouting for Bournemouth and he kept asking questions about Raglan. He seemed very impressed.

[azul]

Andy Spireite, on 22 November 2014 - 08:11 PM, said:

Steve Fletcher was sat just in front of me today scouting for Bournemouth and he kept asking questions about Raglan. He seemed very impressed.

Amazed how composed Raglan looked. Thought I'd wait to the Barnsley game before making up my mind but I have now.

He'll take some shifting if he continues along those lines

[jonnythespireite]

Sabreman, on 22 November 2014 - 07:58 PM, said:

Raglan was outstanding, as others have said the pass for the second goal was a stunner as was Doyles touch, powder puff I was saying about our attacking players then Doyle pops up with two world class finishes. Ten yard over the bar, that's what I as thinking for the first go on you can admit it so were you.
Banks is not good enough for L1 i'm afraid as for Armand, well you will get those that will say he is raw, needs game time etc, etc the simple truth is he is crap. Cooky why did you take O'Shea off to bring him on. Let us all stop kidding ourselves, a fish out of water, clueless, was looking at the linesman more than the ball or his fellow players.

I'm not turning this into anArmands better than O'Shea post, he isn't, but jay was very poor today. Wasteful in possession and lacking application out of it.

[dim view]

azul, on 22 November 2014 - 08:17 PM, said:

Amazed how composed Raglan looked. Thought I'd wait to the Barnsley game before making up my mind but I have now.

He'll take some shifting if he continues along those lines

I like his bravery. Frightened of nowt when attacking the ball, even bordering on reckless. Reminded me of Bomber.

[Sabreman]

dim view, on 22 November 2014 - 08:23 PM, said:

I like his bravery. Frightened of nowt when attacking the ball, even bordering on reckless. Reminded me of Bomber.

He looks a class act in the making, fearless today absolutely outstanding

[Bonnyman]

dim view, on 22 November 2014 - 07:58 PM, said:

Somebody buy this man a drink. He's started watching the match at last. Jimmy Ryan in my opinion had one of his best ever games for the club. Head and shoulders above 'owt they'd got in that area. Also, whoever the tactical genius was that switched Raglan and Evo around also needs a round of applause. I think that was me wasn't it?.

You can buy me the drink ...i look forward to meeting you j will buy you one in return.

[dim view]

bonnyman, on 22 November 2014 - 06:47 PM, said:

Banks does not make himself available forvthe ball if you watch morsy he offers his hand begging to get on it , banks is not a brave enough player he also imo isnt quick enough to play advanced..not good enough to make the step up imo.

I think PC summed up the situation accurately on Player. We are seeing a player whose confidence has gone. That alone makes a huge difference because they are trying to drum in to Ollie that he is good enough to command the ball. To do that, he has to be confident enough not to worry about making mistakes.

[Valley Blues]

Raglan was very good last week, as myself and a handful of others on this board stated, yet it was still being suggested as recently as yesterday that he would / should be left out for the superior player in Georg, our loanee. I said yesterday that Raglan should start every time over Georg as Raglan is our player and there is no real difference in class to warrant a loan player taking precedence. Well, I might have to change that view slightly because on this showing there is, potentially, a big difference in class and Charlie comes out on top. Well played young man.

[dim view]

Valley Blues, on 22 November 2014 - 08:46 PM, said:

there is no real difference in class to warrant a loan player taking precedence. ....

there is actually. Georg can play LHS better than Evo, Charlie, or Hirdy. I would never play Charlie LHS, but maybe Evo or Hird can cope there especially if we can use Georg's wages for another position.

[Walton Spireite]

I thought Raglan was man of the match. An excellent performance.

[dtp]

mhgreats, on 22 November 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Raglan stepped up today - to the list of O'Shea, Ryan, Lee and Doyle I would add Tendayi.

Raglan was excellent but I thought Ryan had his best game in ages and was my MOM. Tendayi was, again, very good and from where I was got booked for a good tackle and winning the ball. Similarly, why was Ryan booked when their man wasn't even spoken to for a professional foul to stop Roberts getting into the penalty area in the first half?

Thought Armand did what was required - Barnsley were in the accendancy but when he came on he started to win headers against their centre backs and prevented the ball coming straight back again thus giving our defence breathing space. I think he is being unfairly criticised as he was sent on to do a job for the team and he did it.

Disappointments for me were Roberts wastefulness, O'Shea preferring to beat one man to many rather than getting a shot away, Jones not clearing the ball with power which resulted in their goal.

Nevertheless, a really good performance and another very good game.

[Valley Blues]

dim view, on 22 November 2014 - 09:06 PM, said:

there is actually. Georg can play LHS better than Evo, Charlie, or Hirdy. I would never play Charlie LHS, but maybe Evo or Hird can cope there especially if we can use Georg's wages for another position.

I have seen nothing better in Georg than we have seen from Raglan in the last couple of games. Raglan looked excellent yesterday, composed, strong, confident. I'm not saying that Georg is not a decent player at this level and was definitely needed but IMO Raglan has now staked his claim for one of the CH spots and should be playing ahead of a loanee.

[dim view]

Valley Blues, on 23 November 2014 - 10:48 AM, said:

IMO Raglan has now staked his claim for one of the CH spots and should be playing ahead of a loanee...

..this is what folks fail to understand. The devil is in the detail here. Raglan cannot stake a claim for either one of the CH spots. He's much weaker, at the moment, on his left. So you can't send Georg home on the basis that his place is under threat from Charlie.

[Bonnyman]

Valley Blues, on 23 November 2014 - 10:48 AM, said:

I have seen nothing better in Georg than we have seen from Raglan in the last couple of games. Raglan looked excellent yesterday, composed, strong, confident. I'm not saying that Georg is not a decent player at this level and was definitely needed but IMO Raglan has now staked his claim for one of the CH spots and should be playing ahead of a loanee.

Getting raglan up to this standard so quickly deserves a big pat on the back to paul mitchell for spotting him its a hit and miss policy getting players from non league the biggest mystery for me is gardner i dont know how a player who can go past the opposition for fun who also has the physique of a proper footballer can not do it as of yet against swindon he started like ronaldo and finished like ronald mcdonald..bizzarre...got to be some money to be made sorting out these headbangers..im off on a psychology course asap.

[Valley Blues]

dim view, on 23 November 2014 - 11:01 AM, said:

..this is what folks fail to understand. The devil is in the detail here. Raglan cannot stake a claim for either one of the CH spots. He's much weaker, at the moment, on his left. So you can't send Georg home on the basis that his place is under threat from Charlie.

He seemed perform well enough in this position yesterday and I didn't see Raglan looking weak because his left peg is for standing on. I'm not sure if you are saying that Cookie has cocked up as we have a shed full of CH players, none of who are suited to playing on the left side. Raglan may have a preferred side to play but I didn't see it hinder him yesterday, or last week at Crewe.

[lindo-spireite]

bonnyman, on 23 November 2014 - 11:05 AM, said:

Getting raglan up to this standard so quickly deserves a big pat on the back to paul mitchell for spotting him its a hit and miss policy getting players from non league the biggest mystery for me is gardner i dont know how a player who can go past the opposition for fun who also has the physique of a proper footballer can not do it as of yet against swindon he started like ronaldo and finished like ronald mcdonald..bizzarre...got to be some money to be made sorting out these headbangers..im off on a psychology course asap.

absolutely baffling, the guy has everything technically required to be our main threat, I don't understand why he can't be that guy

[dim view]

Valley Blues, on 23 November 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

He seemed perform well enough in this position yesterday and I didn't see Raglan looking weak because his left peg is for standing on. I'm not sure if you are saying that Cookie has cocked up as we have a shed full of CH players, none of who are suited to playing on the left side. Raglan may have a preferred side to play but I didn't see it hinder him yesterday, or last week at Crewe.

Let's start again.
Raglan has been outstanding on the RHS. Evo played LHS.

[Westbars Spireite]

lindo-spireite, on 23 November 2014 - 11:38 AM, said:

absolutely baffling, the guy has everything technically required to be our main threat, I don't understand why he can't be that guy

Football is at least 50% in the head. If that bit ain't right, it won't click.

[dim view]

bonnyman, on 23 November 2014 - 11:05 AM, said:

im off on a psychology course asap.

It's easy. There's nowt up with Gardner. There's only 1 place available and O'Shea has got the shirt. You can't drop Clucas, who to me is making more progress than anybody, or Roberts.

yours faithfully
Hannibal Lector.

[h again]

dim view, on 23 November 2014 - 11:50 AM, said:

It's easy. There's nowt up with Gardner. There's only 1 place available and O'Shea has got the shirt. You can't drop Clucas, who to me is making more progress than anybody, or Roberts.

yours faithfully
Hannibal Lector.

O'Shea has the shirt, but for how long? I know I'll be attacked for being anti, which I'm not, but there has to be more end product. He shows some delightful touches, but doesn't get in the game enough and there's very rarely much at the end in the way of a pass or a shot.
Yesterday it was also very noticeable in the second half that he doesn't do much in the way of closing down. Every one of their attacks was down their left, and it was putting Darikwa under tremendous pressure throughout. Jimmy Ryan was unbelievably good in helping out, limiting his own effectiveness a bit, but they didn't get much help. At least when Armand came on we were defending from the front a bit by reducing their monopoly on winning easy headers to get their left wing moving again.
So Jimmy Ryan was my MoM by a mile, doing the work of two men and probably three, but Darikwa and Raglan were superb, as was Evatt. Jones almost had day off, and nearly showed his appreciation by scoring.