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JIMBO, on 22 November 2014 - 08:28 PM, said:

STEVE FLETCHER there today,scouting for Bournemouth....wonder if they were watching Doyle

Fletch show us ur guns. Didn't realise he was there until last minute when he stood up in front of me to leave. Was funny seeing Geoff hall blocking Andy Cole from getting out of the car park after as well. He had window down asking him to shift his traffic cone but wasn't budging.

[dtp]

djs, on 22 November 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

Raglan's pass will hit its target possibly 1 time in say 7, not saying that it wasn't one hell of a pass, but keeping possession has got to be the way forward for this team! In other words 'tippy tappy' as you put it. It frustrates the opposition, draws them out and creates space behind a defensive midfield formation and the likes of Roberts and JoS thrive on and Doyler feeds off them both. There is a place for the long ball but it is a bit of a lottery when they reach around about the target. Today our numbers came up twice, and that'll do for me.

We had a lot of tippy tappy possession today. Roberts had a lot of the ball and numerous stray passes. O''Shea still can't resist the temptation to try to beat one more man and failed. We scored "no" goals via possession football and the so-called flair of Roberts and O'Shea but we got "two" goals from more direct play.

This proves nothing other than, at times, good long balls forward should be mixed into our style of play.

[Tha Knows...]

Tyrion, on 22 November 2014 - 08:40 PM, said:

Official MOTM today, well deserved he was tireless

Yeh, he has to keep his place because sometimes a young player breaks through and maintains the standard, simply because he is a good player

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Steve Fletcher was, as always, a top bloke today.

[ELTON 2020]

MDCCCLXVI, on 22 November 2014 - 10:09 PM, said:

Steve Fletcher was, as always, a top bloke today.

why a top bloke....did nowt for us......

[BurySpireite]

Elton John 1866, on 23 November 2014 - 12:58 AM, said:

why a top bloke....did nowt for us......

Because the extent of a man's worth goes beyond his footballing contribution to a certain football team? Maybe, I dunno...

[Sabreman]

BurySpireite, on 23 November 2014 - 01:44 AM, said:

Because the extent of a man's worth goes beyond his footballing contribution to a certain football team? Maybe, I dunno...

Indeed, Fletch is down to earth, very respectful, polite, very well spoken a credit to himself, his family and his profession like Chris has said a top bloke.

[BodieUK]

Elton John 1866, on 23 November 2014 - 12:58 AM, said:

why a top bloke....did nowt for us......

He was a key part in a very strong attack with Jack Lester and Jamie Ward when he was with us. If i remember rightly Jack got 27ish goals and not quite sure how Jamie Ward got but it must have been pretty hard - Both clearly loved playing with Fletch - especially Jack.

We could have quite easily gone up that season based on goals scored however defensively we were poor.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Sabreman, on 23 November 2014 - 05:09 AM, said:

Indeed, Fletch is down to earth, very respectful, polite, very well spoken a credit to himself, his family and his profession like Chris has said a top bloke.

Exactly.

In whatever capacity his visit may've been, he was more than happy to engage with everyone that spoke to him.

[whittman]

Sabreman, on 23 November 2014 - 05:09 AM, said:

Indeed, Fletch is down to earth, very respectful, polite, very well spoken a credit to himself, his family and his profession like Chris has said a top bloke.

Agreed he spoke very well at half-time about his season with us saying that we should have gone up with the number of goals that we scored

He was very proud of the fact that he was on the team sheet 39 times in the league that season either starting or sub

[lindo-spireite]

Fletch has said before that he loved playing in that team, just a "shame we had a **** defence"

[h again]

djs, on 23 November 2014 - 10:30 AM, said:

Another hoofball advocate, sorry I don't buy it! How many were played today? A dozen or more? And two paid off one of which was nodded on by a defender. Which sustains the lottery connection. I don't decry the tactic if there's a garentee that there's a product at the end, but it's soooo boring watching the ball being lumped forward from the back time and again as in the past!
It really gets my goat too when folk boo and show disapproval at our passing game. The keeping of possession in a vital part of our game now, looking for the incisive pass, looking for a chink in the armour of very organised defences in this league. If it's played across the back four for a few minutes so what! While we have the ball they ain't got it and can't hurt us. At one point Tendi could have got a cross in but didn't cos Doyle and Clucas were the only two in there, outnumbered 6 to 2 in the middle, so brought it back to start again and try something different and got a real chorus of disapproving shouts and catcalls from the stands. I love the way we are playing ATM. And I say carry on the way we do it now!

There's a lot of truth in that, but sometimes the passing game isn't going to work out and then something a bit different is needed. We never looked like breaking Crewe down after the first 15 minutes, because they just put nine men behind the ball and kept us out of their penalty area, and although we aren't going to meet many like that we do need an option.
Which is why Armand came back. Against Crewe it cried out for somebody to cross the ball to, if only to get it into their penalty area for a change and give them something else to think about.
Shame, but yesterday I don't think there was a single cross to Armand in the time he was on. The principle still applies though.

[dtp]

djs, on 23 November 2014 - 10:30 AM, said:

Another hoofball advocate, sorry I don't buy it! How many were played today? A dozen or more? And two paid off one of which was nodded on by a defender. Which sustains the lottery connection. I don't decry the tactic if there's a garentee that there's a product at the end, but it's soooo boring watching the ball being lumped forward from the back time and again as in the past!
It really gets my goat too when folk boo and show disapproval at our passing game. The keeping of possession in a vital part of our game now, looking for the incisive pass, looking for a chink in the armour of very organised defences in this league. If it's played across the back four for a few minutes so what! While we have the ball they ain't got it and can't hurt us. At one point Tendi could have got a cross in but didn't cos Doyle and Clucas were the only two in there, outnumbered 6 to 2 in the middle, so brought it back to start again and try something different and got a real chorus of disapproving shouts and catcalls from the stands. I love the way we are playing ATM. And I say carry on the way we do it now!

I am assuming you can read and understand what you read!

I said words to the effect that "good long balls should be mixed into our style of play".

This neither advocates "hoof ball" nor criticises our "passing game" but merely that a good "long pass" should be mixed into our style of play.

I agree with you on the Tendayi incident by the way. The stature of our forwards and the lack of numbers getting into the box does not make crossing the ball always a good option. Not long after it was noticeable that when Tendayi pulled one back straight to the feet of O'Shea he barely got any praise for it either.

[dim view]

h again, on 23 November 2014 - 01:04 PM, said:

There's a lot of truth in that, but sometimes the passing game isn't going to work out and then something a bit different is needed. We never looked like breaking Crewe down after the first 15 minutes, because they just put nine men behind the ball and kept us out of their penalty area, and although we aren't going to meet many like that we do need an option.
Which is why Armand came back. Against Crewe it cried out for somebody to cross the ball to, if only to get it into their penalty area for a change and give them something else to think about.
Shame, but yesterday I don't think there was a single cross to Armand in the time he was on. The principle still applies though.

Just watching the highlights and listening to the commentators describe the Barnsley team, this was a top notch serious performance by us against Championship standard players none of whom stood out. So, I for one won't be criticising Armand or Banks too much.

I particularly like the way their smart ass defenders know about Doyle's weakness on his left foot, show him left, but still can do absolutely nowt about his finish.

[Sammy Spireite]

MDCCCLXVI, on 22 November 2014 - 10:09 PM, said:

Steve Fletcher was, as always, a top bloke today.

Must have been the day for random old boys as Jack Lester and Tom Curtis were both at the game yesterday.

[Cartman]

djs, on 22 November 2014 - 06:20 PM, said:

Someone on Peak said he's worth 2.5mil, I think that's wishful thinking! But he's now worth a lot more than I thought he'd ever be!! I wonder who'll come knocking?

I'm not usually one to over value our players

But Doyle has proven he can score a lot of goals at this level, he also did ok in the Scotch Premier League

And if Assombalonga is worth 6 million for scoring 20 odd goals in L1 then £2.5 million is not out of the realms of possibility

[azul]

Cartman, on 23 November 2014 - 02:31 PM, said:

I'm not usually one to over value our players

But Doyle has proven he can score a lot of goals at this level, he also did ok in the Scotch Premier League

And if Assombalonga is worth 6 million for scoring 20 odd goals in L1 then £2.5 million is not out of the realms of possibility

Getting Doyle contracted for another year turned out to be very astute and well timed by PC

[Cartman]

azul, on 23 November 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

Getting Doyle contracted for another year turned out to be very astute and well timed by PC

agreed, always thought he looked a decent player and one who would work hard and never went along with some of the criticism Doyle got last year, but never expected him to do something like this, 19 in 20 games, best scoring rate of any Town striker as long as I have been watching! Just shows what a bit of confidence can do for a player, the 2 goals yesterday were quality finishes.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Cartman, on 23 November 2014 - 02:31 PM, said:

I'm not usually one to over value our players

But Doyle has proven he can score a lot of goals at this level, he also did ok in the Scotch Premier League

And if Assombalonga is worth 6 million for scoring 20 odd goals in L1 then £2.5 million is not out of the realms of possibility

So that's 5 million for Morsy and 2.5 million for Doyle we reckon we are getting on here, lol what debt problem we've sorted it