[spireitetoo]

firedodger, on 29 April 2014 - 08:18 PM, said:

Genuine question, if not sailing then what?

Its been done to death and still no option has been sung......sailing it is then......fine by me.....

[firedodger]

spireitetoo, on 29 April 2014 - 08:24 PM, said:

Its been done to death and still no option has been sung......sailing it is then......fine by me.....

I agree, it'll always stand the test of time, football aside it's an anthem type song so fits the bill.
Was it this season we had the clamour for she sells sanctuary to be the run out music? That was a complete unmitigated flop that was, I'm afraid like it or not, cheesy anthem type songs work!

This post has been edited by firedodger: 29 April 2014 - 08:31 PM

[metallilad]

firedodger, on 29 April 2014 - 08:18 PM, said:

Genuine question, if not sailing then what?

I don't know Firedodger. I said earlier that the music I listen to ain't really gonna go down well with the old & young.
The thing that gets me about this is that we've got this big debate about singing a fourty year old song that was sung regularly thirty years ago, then disappeared and has now made a whimpering return in the past 2-3 yrs. Now it's been sung well one time there's an almighty great uproar to sing it all the time, because I point out that the club has moved great strides in the past 4-5 yrs, changed its whole identity compared to the old Saltergate years we should be looking to start new traditions by choosing a new anthem.
All of us as supporters wanted the club to move into the 21st century but a number of supporters are wanting to relive the 20th century by making themselves feel good because they remember standing on the Kop at Saltergate singing a song. There's going to be a crowd of approximately ten thousand on Saturday, of which you could say at a minimum there is going to be 30% of youngsters, so why don't we grasp this opportunity with both hands and re-write the traditions of our new club by choosing a new anthem. After all. We still keep the blue flag flying from Saltergate to Wembley which keeps our tradition/spiritual home doesn't it?

[Goku]

Yes so why does it hurt to have another method to remember Saltergate by?

[Tha Knows...]

metallilad, on 29 April 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

I don't know Firedodger. I said earlier that the music I listen to ain't really gonna go down well with the old & young.
The thing that gets me about this is that we've got this big debate about singing a fourty year old song that was sung regularly thirty years ago, then disappeared and has now made a whimpering return in the past 2-3 yrs. Now it's been sung well one time there's an almighty great uproar to sing it all the time, because I point out that the club has moved great strides in the past 4-5 yrs, changed its whole identity compared to the old Saltergate years we should be looking to start new traditions by choosing a new anthem.
All of us as supporters wanted the club to move into the 21st century but a number of supporters are wanting to relive the 20th century by making themselves feel good because they remember standing on the Kop at Saltergate singing a song. There's going to be a crowd of approximately ten thousand on Saturday, of which you could say at a minimum there is going to be 30% of youngsters, so why don't we grasp this opportunity with both hands and re-write the traditions of our new club by choosing a new anthem. After all. We still keep the blue flag flying from Saltergate to Wembley which keeps our tradition/spiritual home doesn't it?

Its just a good song for football

[ash_cfc]

Folk bang on about maintaining tradition in a football club, then when a song is sung.. That is something that was traditionally sang in the past gets sung, folk start moaning! Some miserable xxxx's about!

[metallilad]

Goku, on 29 April 2014 - 08:47 PM, said:

Yes so why does it hurt to have another method to remember Saltergate by?

Goku. How many years did you go to Saltergate and how many times did you sing Sailing?

[metallilad]

ash_cfc, on 29 April 2014 - 08:49 PM, said:

Folk bang on about maintaining tradition in a football club, then when a song is sung.. That is something that was traditionally sang in the past gets sung, folk start moaning! Some miserable xxxx's about!

I don't care if that comment is about me or not but the insult that you have posted onto a thread that has been a reasonable debate before you turn up is one that can be done without.

[Goku]

metallilad, on 29 April 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

Goku. How many years did you go to Saltergate and how many times did you sing Sailing?

Went for three or four years. A few times, not many. I don't care what reason we sing it as long as it sounds good tbh, did you go to Burton? Sounded brilliant.

[metallilad]

Goku, on 29 April 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

Went for three or four years. A few times, not many. I don't care what reason we sing it as long as it sounds good tbh, did you go to Burton? Sounded brilliant.

No. I didn't go to Burton.
I'm not trying to say that we shouldn't ever sing it (although looking through some of the posts it looks that way). I'm saying that to have it as an anthem when it's not been an anthem for twenty years is daft.
Why wasn't it sung when we won the championship four yrs ago?
Why wasn't it sung when we won the JPT?
Let's move with the times like we wanted the club to do.

[firedodger]

metallilad, on 29 April 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

I don't know Firedodger. I said earlier that the music I listen to ain't really gonna go down well with the old & young.
The thing that gets me about this is that we've got this big debate about singing a fourty year old song that was sung regularly thirty years ago, then disappeared and has now made a whimpering return in the past 2-3 yrs. Now it's been sung well one time there's an almighty great uproar to sing it all the time, because I point out that the club has moved great strides in the past 4-5 yrs, changed its whole identity compared to the old Saltergate years we should be looking to start new traditions by choosing a new anthem.
All of us as supporters wanted the club to move into the 21st century but a number of supporters are wanting to relive the 20th century by making themselves feel good because they remember standing on the Kop at Saltergate singing a song. There's going to be a crowd of approximately ten thousand on Saturday, of which you could say at a minimum there is going to be 30% of youngsters, so why don't we grasp this opportunity with both hands and re-write the traditions of our new club by choosing a new anthem. After all. We still keep the blue flag flying from Saltergate to Wembley which keeps our tradition/spiritual home doesn't it?

Like I say, it's hard to think about choosing a new anthem if nobody is coming up with any options. Again there was a lot of appetite for she sells sanctuary, but it just didn't work, aside from a nice bit of guitar work it's just not a football song. What we like won't necessarily translate into a football song, and like it or not sailing sounds good.

[azul]

metallilad, on 29 April 2014 - 09:13 PM, said:

Let's move with the times like we wanted the club to do.

And sing what? Just follow what the big boys are doing?

Genuine question, I'm easy, don't care if we sit there in complete silence

[firedodger]

azul, on 29 April 2014 - 09:29 PM, said:

And sing what? Just follow what the big boys are doing?

Genuine question, I'm easy, don't care if we sit there in complete silence

How about 9000 people doing sign language we are sailing?

[Goku]

metallilad, on 29 April 2014 - 09:13 PM, said:

No. I didn't go to Burton.
I'm not trying to say that we shouldn't ever sing it (although looking through some of the posts it looks that way). I'm saying that to have it as an anthem when it's not been an anthem for twenty years is daft.
Why wasn't it sung when we won the championship four yrs ago?
Why wasn't it sung when we won the JPT?
Let's move with the times like we wanted the club to do.

It was sung when we won the League. At Oxford away, very loudly IIRC

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[oh rodney rodney]

[quote name='metallilad'
im into rock + metal always have been always will be plus im a ol timer to some of u but me + my mate started sailing of at burton within seconds everybody started singin it ok its not everyones cup of tea but its always been a town song am sure theres loads of old school will be singin it saturday,

[metallilad]

azul, on 29 April 2014 - 09:29 PM, said:

And sing what? Just follow what the big boys are doing?

Genuine question, I'm easy, don't care if we sit there in complete silence

Azul.
I listen to music that isn't going to go down well with nearly all the public.
I just feel that we have an opportunity to stamp a whole new tradition onto our newly reborn club, to call a song that hasn't been sung religiously for twenty years "our anthem" is daft. Why do we want to live in the past?
We have an opportunity to start something that could stay with the club long after we have bit the bullet so why don't we?

[firedodger]

metallilad, on 29 April 2014 - 09:38 PM, said:

Azul.
I listen to music that isn't going to go down well with nearly all the public.
I just feel that we have an opportunity to stamp a whole new tradition onto our newly reborn club, to call a song that hasn't been sung religiously for twenty years "our anthem" is daft. Why do we want to live in the past?
We have an opportunity to start something that could stay with the club long after we have bit the bullet so why don't we?

Mate, again, suggestions?

[azul]

metallilad, on 29 April 2014 - 09:38 PM, said:

Azul.
I listen to music that isn't going to go down well with nearly all the public.
I just feel that we have an opportunity to stamp a whole new tradition onto our newly reborn club, to call a song that hasn't been sung religiously for twenty years "our anthem" is daft. Why do we want to live in the past?
We have an opportunity to start something that could stay with the club long after we have bit the bullet so why don't we?

The threads that discuss anthems descend in chaos with everyone suggesting their niche likes

Either adopt an old classic or a cheesy but relevant number that everyone knows but probably dislike

[firedodger]

azul, on 29 April 2014 - 09:51 PM, said:

The threads that discuss anthems descend in chaos with everyone suggesting their niche likes

Either adopt an old classic or a cheesy but relevant number that everyone knows but probably dislike

Exactly that, you're not stock, aitken or waterman are you?
Amarillo anyone?

[Norton Blue]

metallilad, on 29 April 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

so why don't we grasp this opportunity with both hands and re-write the traditions of our new club by choosing a new anthem. After all. We still keep the blue flag flying from Saltergate to Wembley which keeps our tradition/spiritual home doesn't it?

Rewriting tradition...... surely that would destroy it.. The reason a tradition generally survives is because it has history. You can't rewrite it.

Most modern songs would be terrible to have as an anthem IMO. you need something easy to sing, and simple rhythm. You'll be hard pressed to find a modern song that fits that bill.