[Norton Blue]

let's see what we have at the end of the week. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear something positive re another signing......

[Johnnyspireite7]

Norton Blue, on 21 June 2011 - 01:29 PM, said:

let's see what we have at the end of the week. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear something positive re another signing......

And I draw your attention to....... http://www.thecfss.c...showtopic=32355

This post has been edited by Johnnyspireite7: 21 June 2011 - 01:35 PM

[Younger]

Contract News: Crewe boss Dario Gradi still needs out-of-contract duo Clayton Donaldson and Byron Moore to decide about their futures.

/\ sky sports

[JDogg]

RPL42YEARS, on 20 June 2011 - 09:36 PM, said:

Moondog - success is success - B&HA prove the model fees and frees - size of club is ireelevant - this just affects the scale not the model. Re Radio Deedah - no chance to chase today as busy in London. Home tomorrow so I'll get on it.

JDogg - in the end his agent will have made sure the Champ teams know all about him.

Ernie Ernie Ernie - what am amazing peice of revisionism - suddenly Davies is a freak show one-off and Donaldson is better and JS will go the extra mile as opposed to keep CD! I wonder how many board members buy this?

And??? I'll bet my house on the fact his agent did but that doesn't mean anyone of them were willing to take a punt on him which is more fool them if Davies can get a Championship side. Not that i'm saying Davies shouldn't but they are very simular size, skill & speed wise.

And as for the whole fees thing i get the impression that Shezza isn't against paying fees for the player but its the ridiculous agents fees he dosen't agree with.

[RPL42YEARS]

JDogg - I think we might be in violent agreement - if Champ clubs are not interested it will be for a reason. If its no age, and yes 27-28 isn't ancient, then it must be because they have doubts about him being a championship quality player.

Re fees - I expect we are paying signing on fees. I doubt we want to pay agents fees. I just wonder if fees paid to club and agent are flip sides of the same coin.

Anyhow I hope we get Doanladson as I struggle to see any other proven goal scorers.

[dim view]

Norton Blue, on 21 June 2011 - 01:29 PM, said:

let's see what we have at the end of the week. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear something positive re another signing......

Incomings on thursday.

[fishini]

Suprised that we are not now in the blue square league now and I am utterly amazed we won the league title. afterall we did not pay a single fee for any player they were all freebies. By the dark angels thinking they must all be hopeless

[RPL42YEARS]

Fishini - do you think that one way of doing business will always deliver success? Even when the situations change - L1 is tougher with a significant number of bigger fish (no pun intended)? Without repeating myself some of the L2 in take won't hack it in L1. Having the option to bring in frees and fee players would make JS's objective more achievable.

[JDogg]

RPL42YEARS, on 21 June 2011 - 04:04 PM, said:

JDogg - I think we might be in violent agreement - if Champ clubs are not interested it will be for a reason. If its no age, and yes 27-28 isn't ancient, then it must be because they have doubts about him being a championship quality player.

Re fees - I expect we are paying signing on fees. I doubt we want to pay agents fees. I just wonder if fees paid to club and agent are flip sides of the same coin.

Anyhow I hope we get Doanladson as I struggle to see any other proven goal scorers.

Look at the size of the clubs in the Championship, their either big clubs with huge fan bases or club's with chairmen that dont mind spending the cash. With that being said most clubs in that league have the means to purchase a player that is proven at that level or higher not to mention the free agents knocking about that would easily cope in that division ie Phillps etc. So it would be a brave manager to take a punt on Donaldson when they could just has easily sign someone thats been there & done that in that league.

Now i'm not saying that Donaldson is good enough for the Championship cos i haven't seen enough of him but that doesn't mean that he's not. I personally think Davies is a big gamble for Hill at Barnsley & not many managers will be willing to risk it when nobody is safe in that league just ask Sheff Poo!

If a club deserves a fee thats fair & i'm sure Shezza is ok with that. If a free agent wants a signing on fee then ditto. But if a agent wants thousands for doing F all then Shezza is right to tell them to jog on! agent

This post has been edited by JDogg: 21 June 2011 - 08:07 PM

[RPL42YEARS]

JDogg, on 21 June 2011 - 08:07 PM, said:

Look at the size of the clubs in the Championship, their either big clubs with huge fan bases or club's with chairmen that dont mind spending the cash. With that being said most clubs in that league have the means to purchase a player that is proven at that level or higher not to mention the free agents knocking about that would easily cope in that division ie Phillps etc. So it would be a brave manager to take a punt on Donaldson when they could just has easily sign someone thats been there & done that in that league.

Now i'm not saying that Donaldson is good enough for the Championship cos i haven't seen enough of him but that doesn't mean that he's not. I personally think Davies is a big gamble for Hill at Barnsley & not many managers will be willing to risk it when nobody is safe in that league just ask Sheff Poo!

If a club deserves a fee thats fair & i'm sure Shezza is ok with that. If a free agent wants a signing on fee then ditto. But if a agent wants thousands for doing F all then Shezza is right to tell them to jog on! agent

I have to agree that even I object to paying these so and so's

[fishini]

RPL42YEARS, on 21 June 2011 - 07:11 PM, said:

Fishini - do you think that one way of doing business will always deliver success? Even when the situations change - L1 is tougher with a significant number of bigger fish (no pun intended)? Without repeating myself some of the L2 in take won't hack it in L1. Having the option to bring in frees and fee players would make JS's objective more achievable.

You have got it into your head the fees means quality. You are so wrong

[Goku]

fishini, on 22 June 2011 - 05:41 PM, said:

You have got it into your head the fees means quality. You are so wrong

Wuh oh! Prepare for the market value speech.

[Johnnyspireite7]

Haslandboi, on 22 June 2011 - 05:42 PM, said:

Wuh oh! Prepare for the market value speech.

What again?

[RPL42YEARS]

Johnnyspireite7, on 22 June 2011 - 06:05 PM, said:

What again?

Sorry chaps but as in life, an in the long run, you get what you pay for. Football is no different. To paint the extremes - Manager A buys all his players and Manager B can only go with frees (inc ooc). 99 times in 100 A will have a better squad and more success than B. Do you dispute this?

[JDogg]

RPL42YEARS, on 22 June 2011 - 06:22 PM, said:

Sorry chaps but as in life, an in the long run, you get what you pay for. Football is no different. To paint the extremes - Manager A buys all his players and Manager B can only go with frees (inc ooc). 99 times in 100 A will have a better squad and more success than B. Do you dispute this?

Yes i do cos it just as black & white as how you see!

[RPL42YEARS]

Spire 12345 (Rotherham 0), on 22 June 2011 - 06:25 PM, said:

You are quite correct Rob,

I mean look at man u, man city, Chelsea,Barcelona, qpr, Crawley, etc etc

Look at arsenal , not spending and falling away from those who do fast.

You are generally right in what your saying, however it does not guarantee success does it??

Agreed there are no guarantees. I guess in my time Man Utd ending up in the old Division 2 is perhaps the most obvious example.

[dim view]

dim view, on 21 June 2011 - 04:45 PM, said:

Incomings on thursday.

so, who is it/are they?
moles must be hibernating.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

RPL42YEARS, on 22 June 2011 - 06:22 PM, said:

Sorry chaps but as in life, an in the long run, you get what you pay for. Football is no different. To paint the extremes - Manager A buys all his players and Manager B can only go with frees (inc ooc). 99 times in 100 A will have a better squad and more success than B. Do you dispute this?

And our record signing Jason Lee bringing us undoubted success. Let's have another 11 like him