[SocraticCFC]

This is a relatively new ploy, which only seems to happen when their team is leading and/or they are under pressure. Keepers who suddenly develop a mulitple hernia, severe knew arthritis,torn hamstrings, multiple tears to calf muscle, dislocated knee caps etc are a blight on the game. This footballing fungus is only, it appears to me, a recent keeping canker.
Points from this - yesterday, their 'keeper' did this a number of times. I wonder how much this disease has spread through the game.

Surely, we have got to destroy this new 'cheating phenonemon' - I'm sure it is new - as I and others pay money to watch the equivaolent of 90mins football - not 84 because of lack of appropriate injury time added on. The Q is how do the authorities tackle such abuse of the game?

[Hibbo98]

Always thought that another player should be designated to go off the pitch for 30 secs if the keeper needs the physio on. Still won’t solve the wider issue but at least there’s a slight deterrent there

[Exharboroughspireite]

Hibbo98, on 12 May 2025 - 10:16 AM, said:

Always thought that another player should be designated to go off the pitch for 30 secs if the keeper needs the physio on. Still won’t solve the wider issue but at least there’s a slight deterrent there

suggested something similar but for longer - 3 minutes for example. also would ban all players from going to the touchline.

[Goku]

Not sure of the solution but something must be done, it's farcical. I don't sense any sort of appetite from those in power to address it, though. Is there a way for fans to contact the FA and raise this as an issue? Don't mean to sound all Karen-esque but fuck me it's killing the game.

[JonB]

Dont think it needs to be as complicated as removing players...just stop players running en masse to the touchline for instructions by the officials doing their jobs and it will stop happening.

[Goku]

JonB, on 12 May 2025 - 10:20 AM, said:

Dont think it needs to be as complicated as removing players...just stop players running en masse to the touchline for instructions by the officials doing their jobs and it will stop happening.

This would be an improvement but not a complete fix because teams don't just use this to get instructions across, they use it to take the steam out of the game, so you could still have the keeper going down for a few minutes and achieve that objective even if you do stop players running to the touchline and speaking with staff.

[dim view]

What's needed is that the ref's report should include the number of occurrences and then an admin bod or A.I. at the FA can collate them. Then punish on a tot up basis.

[Exharboroughspireite]

Goku, on 12 May 2025 - 10:24 AM, said:

This would be an improvement but not a complete fix because teams don't just use this to get instructions across, they use it to take the steam out of the game, so you could still have the keeper going down for a few minutes and achieve that objective even if you do stop players running to the touchline and speaking with staff.

agree. you never see a keeper going down when their own team is pressing at the other end. Always when they are under pressure. It is the equivalent of allowing a boxer to put a knee down and have a 3 minute break before resuming the round

[jack bauer]

like many i suspect we were discussing this yesterday after the game, it was so blatant yesterday it was untrue, someone mentioned in the matchday thread about how the gk sub never warmed up during these instances either.
how do you stop it? not sure.

i like the point about stopping the players going across to the touchline, that takes that bit out of it. If gk sub was excluded from the 5 we can make, could the officials be given powers to say, if a second stoppage occurs they invoke an auto gk substitution? that way we only have to endure the pantomime once per game.

[BreadNoButter]

What’s the point of this post if every team does it? We do it, Infact I looked this morning when winning by one, how many times boot has gone down in the past, just have a look. Let’s not be hypocrites

[Oldtimer]

I could be missing something, but a simple solution would be to have a 90 minute countdown clock which the referee can stop and start as he sees fit. Players including any feigning injury and supporters would see in real time if clock was stopped or not.

[Goku]

BreadNoButter, on 12 May 2025 - 10:32 AM, said:

What’s the point of this post if every team does it? We do it, Infact I looked this morning when winning by one, how many times boot has gone down in the past, just have a look. Let’s not be hypocrites

1. Because even if we do it (I'm not certain that we do, certainly not to the amount we saw yesterday) why would you not want the game to naturally flow more? Do you enjoy the breaks in play or something? What a weird thing to say.
2. Where can we view this data for how many times Boot goes down when we're winning by a goal? Please share.

[clarevoyant.]

BreadNoButter, on 12 May 2025 - 10:32 AM, said:

What’s the point of this post if every team does it? We do it, Infact I looked this morning when winning by one, how many times boot has gone down in the past, just have a look. Let’s not be hypocrites

What stats did you uncover?

[spireitebri]

I think a lot of this comes from the side lines, where managers etc. have been seen to signal to the goalie to go down.

[Looker-on]

If the keeper goes down, he has to come off and be replaced by an outfield player for ten minutes, while his injury is properly assessed. The team plays with ten men for that time.
If the injury is genuine the sub keeper can always come on straight away, or before the ten minutes has elapsed.

As said elsewhere - no interaction (beyond normal shouted instructions) between players and coaches during this, or during any time that the game is suspended for injury.

Look at the whole issue of repeated drinks breaks. I think there was a home game this season where we had three in the first half hour. Any team that works on fitness and durability has any possible advantage negated by the fact that the opponents can take a slurp every ten minutes, so no drinks breaks for any reason. So a player might get a bit of a dab on? Pace yourselves. We managed to win a World Cup in the summer of 66 without everyone going for a gargle every ten minutes.

[BreadNoButter]

Goku, on 12 May 2025 - 10:34 AM, said:

1. Because even if we do it (I'm not certain that we do, certainly not to the amount we saw yesterday) why would you not want the game to naturally flow more? Do you enjoy the breaks in play or something? What a weird thing to say.
2. Where can we view this data for how many times Boot goes down when we're winning by a goal? Please share.

Of course, I’d prefer it to get punished but it’s only getting brought up cause we are being sour about the result yesterday, and their keeper got under afew skins.


I never said I’d saw statistics, Watch the highlights back of every game from the 70th-80th min where we’ve been winning by 1. Think I counted around 3 times where boot went down and had physio on. It happens get over it

[BreadNoButter]

Amount of shit I saw on Facebook about their keeper and all we can bring up is ‘where’s your water bottle’. It’s embarrassing, he’s had so many people on strings. Grown men bragging about how they had a 20 odd year olds water bottle. You never grow looking at everyone else, time to look at why we lost and it wasn’t because the ref or their keeper wasting time

[clarevoyant.]

BreadNoButter, on 12 May 2025 - 10:43 AM, said:

Amount of shit I saw on Facebook about their keeper and all we can bring up is ‘where’s your water bottle’. It’s embarrassing, he’s had so many people on strings. Grown men bragging about how they had a 20 odd year olds water bottle. You never grow looking at everyone else, time to look at why we lost and it wasn’t because the ref or their keeper wasting time

So if the keeper's antics weren't having an influence on the game, why was he doing it and so professionally unprofessional?
Surely his pay masters would have put a stop to it.

BreadNoButter, on 12 May 2025 - 10:40 AM, said:

Of course, I’d prefer it to get punished but it’s only getting brought up cause we are being sour about the result yesterday, and their keeper got under afew skins.


I never said I’d saw statistics, Watch the highlights back of every game from the 70th-80th min where we’ve been winning by 1. Think I counted around 3 times where boot went down and had physio on. It happens get over it

Gives the impression that you are guessing

[Burgerman]

SocraticCFC, on 12 May 2025 - 10:05 AM, said:

This is a relatively new ploy, which only seems to happen when their team is leading and/or they are under pressure. Keepers who suddenly develop a mulitple hernia, severe knew arthritis,torn hamstrings, multiple tears to calf muscle, dislocated knee caps etc are a blight on the game. This footballing fungus is only, it appears to me, a recent keeping canker.
Points from this - yesterday, their 'keeper' did this a number of times. I wonder how much this disease has spread through the game.

Surely, we have got to destroy this new 'cheating phenonemon' - I'm sure it is new - as I and others pay money to watch the equivaolent of 90mins football - not 84 because of lack of appropriate injury time added on. The Q is how do the authorities tackle such abuse of the game?

My take on this is that its a poor spectacle for those who pay to watch a football match, most keepers do it because they are instructed to do so is my guess. Tyrer did it a few times when playing for us and it used to wind me up just the same as if an opposing keeper did it. In my opinion, they do it for two reasons, to kill the momentum of the opposing team and to waste time. Wasting time doesn't really work though as the ref just adds it on at the end. To stop it from happening all the ref has to do is call the physio on the pitch then like an outfield player the keeper goes off but for a minimum of 2 mins or he is substituted. That would stop it.

[60s 70s Spireite]

BreadNoButter, on 12 May 2025 - 10:40 AM, said:

I never said I’d saw statistics, Watch the highlights back of every game from the 70th-80th min where we’ve been winning by 1. Think I counted around 3 times where boot went down and had physio on. It happens get over it

What minutes did it happen v Accrington?