[Manfred Archie Mac Gerbil]

Zigsuk said:

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Now you couldn't drag me out on a dark winter evening even with the promise of free booze all night.

I can’t even go to games without a warm blanket these days and I’ve even started drinking Bovril, I never saw the point of Bovril until I got old and cold.

[sophocles]

Manfred Archie Mac Gerbil, on 04 December 2023 - 08:02 PM, said:

I can’t even go to games without a warm blanket these days and I’ve even started drinking Bovril, I never saw the point of Bovril until I got old and cold.

You must be joking surely. I've been addicted to Bovril since my Dad started taking me to matches when I was 6 years old. In my mind, football and Bovril cannot be separated. Of course, having started going to matches on freezing cold afternoons and nights at Ibrox Park probably had something to do with it!

[Siberian Spireite]

Zigsuk, on 04 December 2023 - 12:02 PM, said:

Why do so many managers and pundits tell the interviewers to 'listen' when they are responding to interviews? Sheridan did it all the time and Aaron Mclean on TNT Nattional League says listen before every sentence. Notice Wellens in his rather ungracious interview also used it several times.

Presumably they use it for emphasis, or like the modern and irritating use of 'so' at the beginning of sentences, it's used to gain breathing space as they think about how to respond. I actually feel slightly sorry for some managers when they are being asked inane and repetitive questions after a match. After all there is only so much you can say about football and their responses often come across as inconsequential blather. It must be quite galling after a defeat. You could see Wellens was really struggling. That was probably why he came across as ungracious.

I know they are paid well and it's now part of the job description, but back in the 60's and 70's managers weren't grilled after every game. Indeed apart from Cloughie, who loved it, was articulate, intelligent and often deliberately provocative, most managers, apart from the odd and usually memorable comment from Bill Shankly, were seldom heard. Bob Paisley for example, one of the greatest managers ever, wasn't the greatest communicator and for someone of his stature rarely interviewed. Now all managers and coaches are expected to speak articulately when they often aren't up to it, especially after a painful defeat.

There are only so many ways you can try to keep responding to what are often essentially the same questions. As Rob Staton in his interview with Cookie found out. No wonder Paul tries to avoid interviews.

I reckon the younger generation of managers undergo a media course in which they are told to refer to their squad as the ‘group’. So many of them use that term repeatedly.

[60s 70s Spireite]

Siberian Spireite, on 04 December 2023 - 08:58 PM, said:

I reckon the younger generation of managers undergo a media course in which they are told to refer to their squad as the ‘group’. So many of them use that term repeatedly.

How old is Dyche, as he was one of the first I heard use the term?
I would imagine it’s come from the Sports Psychologists, all about being collaborative and inclusive.

[Siberian Spireite]

60s 70s Spireite, on 04 December 2023 - 09:15 PM, said:

How old is Dyche, as he was one of the first I heard use the term?
I would imagine it’s come from the Sports Psychologists, all about being collaborative and inclusive.

Yes, Dyche does it all the time. O’Neil, Howe, all the younger(ish) English ones seem to do it. Admittedly I rarely listen to managers’ interviews as they tend to be tedious and predictable, unless they’ve suffered an obvious injustice and are trying not to say too much.

[h again]

Siberian Spireite, on 04 December 2023 - 09:59 PM, said:

Yes, Dyche does it all the time. O’Neil, Howe, all the younger(ish) English ones seem to do it. Admittedly I rarely listen to managers’ interviews as they tend to be tedious and predictable, unless they’ve suffered an obvious injustice and are trying not to say too much.

They don't "tend" to be tedious and predictable, they invariably are just that. In all the years of listening to their drivel I've never heard one who told me anything I couldn't see for myself, with the possible exception of Cloughie the Elder.
The only thing in this world more banal than managers' interviews are players' interviews, and they're only beaten in the banality stakes by Robbie Savage.
If Cook wasn't a brilliant manager I'd still admire him for his avoidance of the media. The football should do the talking, 'nowt else.

[Trigger]

h again, on 04 December 2023 - 10:55 PM, said:

They don't "tend" to be tedious and predictable, they invariably are just that. In all the years of listening to their drivel I've never heard one who told me anything I couldn't see for myself, with the possible exception of Cloughie the Elder.
The only thing in this world more banal than managers' interviews are players' interviews, and they're only beaten in the banality stakes by Robbie Savage.
If Cook wasn't a brilliant manager I'd still admire him for his avoidance of the media. The football should do the talking, 'nowt else.

I like only banks' interviews. It's the ones that start every sentence with 'obviously', '100%', or 'absolutely' and say 'like I said' then preceed to say something they've said nothing about before that I find harder to listen to. I never liked talking to a camera though so I shouldn't moan.

Listened to the wellens one last night and yep, he's Sheridan all over.

[Mr Mercury]

60s 70s Spireite, on 04 December 2023 - 09:15 PM, said:

How old is Dyche, as he was one of the first I heard use the term?
I would imagine it’s come from the Sports Psychologists, all about being collaborative and inclusive.

Another term that’s come to the fore recently, and I think Danny Webb is guilty on this one is ..”in the building”!

[frearsghost]

The one that really gets me is, 'definately'.

[clarevoyant.]

frearsghost, on 05 December 2023 - 08:37 AM, said:

The one that really gets me is, 'definately'.

In my case it's "win a game of football" at least they 'know' what we should be playing.

[boot]

Danny Wilson's was "At this moment in time .... " - often several times in the same interview.

[ronpowellsbutler]

frearsghost, on 05 December 2023 - 08:37 AM, said:

The one that really gets me is, 'definately'.

Absolately ….

[Collingham Spireite]

ronpowellsbutler, on 05 December 2023 - 09:56 AM, said:

Absolately ….

😂

[Collingham Spireite]

Zigsuk, on 04 December 2023 - 12:02 PM, said:

Why do so many managers and pundits tell the interviewers to 'listen' when they are responding to interviews? Sheridan did it all the time and Aaron Mclean on TNT Nattional League says listen before every sentence. Notice Wellens in his rather ungracious interview also used it several times.

Presumably they use it for emphasis, or like the modern and irritating use of 'so' at the beginning of sentences, it's used to gain breathing space as they think about how to respond. I actually feel slightly sorry for some managers when they are being asked inane and repetitive questions after a match. After all there is only so much you can say about football and their responses often come across as inconsequential blather. It must be quite galling after a defeat. You could see Wellens was really struggling. That was probably why he came across as ungracious.

I know they are paid well and it's now part of the job description, but back in the 60's and 70's managers weren't grilled after every game. Indeed apart from Cloughie, who loved it, was articulate, intelligent and often deliberately provocative, most managers, apart from the odd and usually memorable comment from Bill Shankly, were seldom heard. Bob Paisley for example, one of the greatest managers ever, wasn't the greatest communicator and for someone of his stature rarely interviewed. Now all managers and coaches are expected to speak articulately when they often aren't up to it, especially after a painful defeat.

There are only so many ways you can try to keep responding to what are often essentially the same questions. As Rob Staton in his interview with Cookie found out. No wonder Paul tries to avoid interviews.

First time I heard this was Justin Langer when he was the Aussie coach a few years ago, since when seemingly all Australian cricketers begin every interview response with it.