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#1 User is offline   Bucknobs 

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 02:16 PM

Could this happen? Plenty of Derbys!


Restructuring of the lower leagues could see League 2 merging with the National League Premier Division and split into north and south

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 02:27 PM

Wouldn't be many derbies if we end up in the southern section!

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 03:31 PM

View PostSammy Spireite, on 26 May 2020 - 02:27 PM, said:

Wouldn't be many derbies if we end up in the southern section!


We would be in the northern section same as we we were before in the 30’s 40’s and I think 1950’s.
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 03:41 PM

View PostSammy Spireite, on 26 May 2020 - 02:27 PM, said:

Wouldn't be many derbies if we end up in the southern section!

You've got to look for the positives, no valley paraďe
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 03:55 PM

based on current league 2 and national league i think we'd definitely be in the north, not the best at geography but i reckon there's over 30 clubs more south than us from these 2 divisions.

likely to happen? who knows, i've heard much worse ideas when it comes to football
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 04:12 PM

We'd be in the north currently but because of our fairly central location there is the potential in the future for us to be one that moves around as clubs in these leagues change.
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 04:27 PM

Check the history of the club! Before when they had this we were always in the northern section. I reckon for at least 20 years. Actually this could save the smaller clubs in having bigger gates through less travel for fans. Resulting in bigger gates all round.

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 05:18 PM

View PostBucknobs, on 26 May 2020 - 04:27 PM, said:

Check the history of the club! Before when they had this we were always in the northern section. I reckon for at least 20 years. Actually this could save the smaller clubs in having bigger gates through less travel for fans. Resulting in bigger gates all round.

In theory we could end up in a southern league though, at some point. It all depends on the locations of the clubs that are at that level at that time. Several clubs have moved between them at times.
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 05:25 PM

View PostOh Wade Falana, on 26 May 2020 - 05:18 PM, said:

In theory we could end up in a southern league though, at some point. It all depends on the locations of the clubs that are at that level at that time. Several clubs have moved between them at times.

It can be a real millstone if a 'border' club ends up in the wrong section for political reasons, as for example Gloucester City did when ending up in the Conference North for a while.
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 06:14 PM

View PostSiberian Spireite, on 26 May 2020 - 05:25 PM, said:

It can be a real millstone if a 'border' club ends up in the wrong section for political reasons, as for example Gloucester City did when ending up in the Conference North for a while.

It wouldn’t be us, not a chance. History is with us, see as said our past in the Third Division North and the current south v north bias in numbers, which will maintain as the more southerly clubs tend to have bigger backers and wealthier owners.
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 06:18 PM

I would rather be in a League 2 South rather than the National League
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 06:43 PM

There’s not a hope of existing League 2 clubs voting for it.

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 26 May 2020 - 06:14 PM, said:

It wouldn’t be us, not a chance. History is with us, see as said our past in the Third Division North and the current south v north bias in numbers, which will maintain as the more southerly clubs tend to have bigger backers and wealthier owners.


Of course it could be us. I don’t think your last statement has any basis either.

Apart from that good post.
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 07:11 PM

View PostSiberian Spireite, on 26 May 2020 - 05:25 PM, said:

It can be a real millstone if a 'border' club ends up in the wrong section for political reasons, as for example Gloucester City did when ending up in the Conference North for a while.

Also the quality of each league can differ at times too.
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 07:17 PM

Two up from each regional division as well to any national level so promotion will be a challenge.
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 07:33 PM

View PostJonB, on 26 May 2020 - 07:17 PM, said:

Two up from each regional division as well to any national level so promotion will be a challenge.

True but it makes relegation for clubs currently in bottom reaches of the current league 2 and those expecting potential finance troubles less likely. The thoughts of having a 'Chorley' as a potential relegation contender could be appealing
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 08:54 PM

View PostBucknobs, on 26 May 2020 - 02:16 PM, said:

Could this happen? Plenty of Derbys!


Restructuring of the lower leagues could see League 2 merging with the National League Premier Division and split into north and south

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https://www.kentonli...oposals-227384/

Shyster journo invented this story a fortnight ago. Some local papers have followed it up but afaik no national papers have developed it. It doesn't have legs.
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 09:56 PM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 26 May 2020 - 06:43 PM, said:

1. There’s not a hope of existing League 2 clubs voting for it.
2.Of course it could be us. I don’t think your last statement has any basis either.
3. Apart from that good post.

1. Let’s see how many clubs disappear when this is all over before we say never.
2. Do the maths, leagues one, two and the National League all have a good deal more clubs south of us than north. A good number. One reason must be that there is more funding for clubs where the nation’s money is. It would take a tsunami of promotions and relegations to rebalance the geography.
3. So not that bad.
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Posted 27 May 2020 - 04:25 AM

The ONLY way this would happen is if a good few clubs went bust, then they would have a look at it.
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Posted 27 May 2020 - 06:31 AM

A lot of clubs in the National League and League 2 are wobbling on their foundations right now.. Going this way North and South would it in the long term help the smaller clubs survive?
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Posted 27 May 2020 - 07:23 AM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 26 May 2020 - 09:56 PM, said:

1. Let’s see how many clubs disappear when this is all over before we say never.
2. Do the maths, leagues one, two and the National League all have a good deal more clubs south of us than north. A good number. One reason must be that there is more funding for clubs where the nation’s money is. It would take a tsunami of promotions and relegations to rebalance the geography.
3. So not that bad.


More clubs in the Premier League and Championship are in the Midlands and the North than in the South. The money must be there too.

The clubs that have been disproportionately backed in the National League last season are both firmly in the North - Fylde and Harrogate - and the last club to have similar backing rewarded with promotion into the FL?

Salford. Harrogate could yet follow them.

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