[Sammy Spireite]

dtp, on 28 April 2020 - 11:14 AM, said:

That's my understanding.

Regular NL Clubs tend to give out contracts up to the end of April which coincides with the end of the NL season. I think Gregor Robertson said that if a Club is involved in play-offs extending into May then contracts are likewise extended for an appropriate number of weeks which is what happened with him when he was at Grimsby.

But, of course, in the EFL Clubs give out contracts to the end of June so any ex-EFL Club who still have players contracted from their EFL days have these players under contract until 30th June. So, Clubs like Notts County and Yeovil will have more players under contract after 30th April than any other Club in the league. This, unsurprisingly, puts them in a better position squad wise than any other team in the NL and, of course, would enhance there chances of success should the season be re-commenced in anyway at all such as having play-offs. No wonder they have taken the stance they have in the recent voting.

I thought I read somewhere that AC had confirmed we still gave out 'full time' contracts, ie valid until the end of June (with a payment for July, too IIRC).

[dtp]

Sammy Spireite, on 28 April 2020 - 12:39 PM, said:

I thought I read somewhere that AC had confirmed we still gave out 'full time' contracts, ie valid until the end of June (with a payment for July, too IIRC).

You might be right.

But remember, we were in the EFL two seasons ago and still receiving a parachute payment this recently ended season. Quite a lot of our players have recently played in the EFL so would most probably have contracts of an EFL nature.

[dim view]

Sammy Spireite, on 28 April 2020 - 12:39 PM, said:

I thought I read somewhere that AC had confirmed we still gave out 'full time' contracts, ie valid until the end of June (with a payment for July, too IIRC).

Morning
Do you think it is unlikely that a list pertaining to contracts will appear this week then?

[moondog]

Sammy Spireite, on 28 April 2020 - 12:39 PM, said:

I thought I read somewhere that AC had confirmed we still gave out 'full time' contracts, ie valid until the end of June (with a payment for July, too IIRC).

Correct

[dim view]

moondog, on 29 April 2020 - 09:55 AM, said:

Correct

I wonder if that includes the 3 or 4 young un's that Pemberton might want to keep?

[moondog]

dim view, on 29 April 2020 - 10:32 AM, said:

I wonder if that includes the 3 or 4 young un's that Pemberton might want to keep?

I would have thought so

[Fit as a Nelson]

From the DT

The DT understands discussions are being held with Haydn Hollis, Jonathan Smith, Tom Denton, Jamie Sharman, Regan Hutchinson and Luke Rawson about new one-year deals.

Shwan Jalal, Sam Wedgbury, Robbie Weir, Mike Fondop, Lee Shaw, Jay Sheridan, Charlie Wakefield, Levi Amantchi and Jack Holmes will all be released at the end of June.

[CFC91]

Onlt really suprised about Hollis, and maybe Fondop.

Assume Jalal will reire.

[mr. smith]

CFC91, on 01 May 2020 - 09:16 AM, said:

Onlt really suprised about Hollis, and maybe Fondop.

Assume Jalal will reire.

truth in the fondop to Hartlepool rumour perhaps.

hollis is steady.

[hewittfan]

Fit as a Nelson, on 01 May 2020 - 08:59 AM, said:

From the DT

The DT understands discussions are being held with Haydn Hollis, Jonathan Smith, Tom Denton, Jamie Sharman, Regan Hutchinson and Luke Rawson about new one-year deals.

Shwan Jalal, Sam Wedgbury, Robbie Weir, Mike Fondop, Lee Shaw, Jay Sheridan, Charlie Wakefield, Levi Amantchi and Jack Holmes will all be released at the end of June.

With Smith and Denton this recognises players whose performances improved under Pemberton.

Fondop on the other hand unfortunately went downhill after having been one of our better players in the autumn.

Don't think there's any surprises in the other seven being released.

[Stoptalkingbol]

Same defence and midfield that’s been steamrolled for two years for another season. The recruitment since Mitchell left is just disgraceful. Serial losers still being offered new deals. It beggars belief.

[CFC91]

Stoptalkingbol, on 01 May 2020 - 09:32 AM, said:

Same defence and midfield that’s been steamrolled for two years for another season. The recruitment since Mitchell left is just disgraceful. Serial losers still being offered new deals. It beggars belief.

Go on then i'll bite. We've offered a deal to one member of each and release 8 out of 14 OOC players. How is that the 'same'?

I don't disagree the recruitment has been crap but we're binning off Weir, Wedgebury, Sheridan etc which is certainly a start. Hollis is the only one we've offered a contract too that I don't rate - I can see merit in Smith getting a deal. Nobody can moan about the kids to bump up the numbers on the cheap because they've never played so it makes sense.

I'm not sure what you were expecting given the rest are under contract I think it's just a classic moan for moanings sake.

[Paul Fisher]

Hollis I'm.surprised about. The rest I can understand why. They are the best of a bad bunch.

[Stoptalkingbol]

CFC91, on 01 May 2020 - 09:39 AM, said:

Go on then i'll bite. We've offered a deal to one member of each and release 8 out of 14 OOC players. How is that the 'same'?

I don't disagree the recruitment has been crap but we're binning off Weir, Wedgebury, Sheridan etc which is certainly a start. Hollis is the only one we've offered a contract too that I don't rate - I can see merit in Smith getting a deal. Nobody can moan about the kids to bump up the numbers on the cheap because they've never played so it makes sense.

I'm not sure what you were expecting given the rest are under contract I think it's just a classic moan for moanings sake.

It’s a buyers market in the current climate, any scout worth his salt will know this and yet we resign two players yet again who are main contributors to why we are where we are and ship so many goals. Our defence is yet again Hollis and Evans and midfield smith and Weston, the same combinations that have almost relegated us twice into the conference north. It’s pure lazy recruitment and shows we still have no noteworthy scouting policy. How can you be so happy with the same set up that has been so disastrous and have a pop at someone not wanting to see the same repetitive mistakes every close season? Each to their own.

[dtp]

Stoptalkingbol, on 01 May 2020 - 09:32 AM, said:

Same defence and midfield that’s been steamrolled for two years for another season. The recruitment since Mitchell left is just disgraceful. Serial losers still being offered new deals. It beggars belief.

Having said that, if all six re-sign it will take our total squad up to 16 players including one goalkeeper. JP has indicated he wants to work with 20 outfield players so he can sign 5 players, half a team, to reach his full complement.

The number of signings could increase further if some players are sent out on loan and/or some reject the terms now being offered.

I'm not really surprised at terms being offered to any of the 3 youngsters, it's obvious JP has a liking of both Denton and Smith, so with Hollis living quite local and being a left-sided CB perhaps that has influenced his decision there. After all, he has to work within a budget and if he doesn't think he can improve on a player within that budget he his hands are somewhat tied.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Darcy Sarto, on 01 May 2020 - 09:39 AM, said:

Hollis I'm.surprised about. The rest I can understand why. They are the best of a bad bunch.

Offering him a short term one year deal on presumably a much reduced contract doesn’t mean he will take it. He’ll probably be offered a 2 year deal elsewhere.

[dim view]

Darcy Sarto, on 01 May 2020 - 09:39 AM, said:

Hollis I'm.surprised about.

He's better than Maguire.

The statement also seems to imply that no final year Academy players are being offered a pro deal which is a great shame as it's highly unlikely that NONE have the potential to step up. Perhaps Steve Coe could enlighten us.

[Stoptalkingbol]

dtp, on 01 May 2020 - 09:48 AM, said:

Having said that, if all six re-sign it will take our total squad up to 16 players including one goalkeeper. JP has indicated he wants to work with 20 outfield players so he can sign 5 players, half a team, to reach his full complement.

The number of signings could increase further if some players are sent out on loan and/or some reject the terms now being offered.

I'm not really surprised at terms being offered to any of the 3 youngsters, it's obvious JP has a liking of both Denton and Smith, so with Hollis living quite local and being a left-sided CB perhaps that has influenced his decision there. After all, he has to work within a budget and if he doesn't think he can improve on a player within that budget he his hands are somewhat tied.

Do you not watch the news? Loads of players at our level will be out or contract and available due to the current situation. A club of our size at this level should be all over this. Serial failure Hollis gets a new deal because he lives near by and uses his left foot? That sounds like one of Williamson’s abysmal scouting reports made from his bedroom.

[calvin plummers socks]

If Pemberton had any thoughts about promotion he will need to lose more than half of last seasons dross (more if possible) and show his abilities in recruitment and development

[Fit as a Nelson]

calvin plummers socks, on 01 May 2020 - 09:54 AM, said:

If Pemberton had any thoughts about promotion he will need to lose more than half of last seasons dross (more if possible) and show his abilities in recruitment and development

Even though I shot you down regarding Buchanan on another thread I do agree with what you are saying on the whole. I can’t quite believe that we’ve offered Hollis and Smith something. I’m okay with Denton if that’s the route we’ll be going although it’s not attractive, let’s hope it’s successful third time around. Sharman, Hutchinson and Rawson do make sense I suppose but are we really having a squad of 18 players? I seem to recall most of our managers saying similar things recently and then we end up with about 30.

I can understand Fondop leaving as he was a walking red card at times, but I might stick a quid on him being the leagues leading scorer next season, I can see it now. Thank god Weir and Wedge man are gone absolute waste of wages. I wonder if we might try and offload contracted players like Rowley and McKay? If all 6 re-sign and we manage to bring Cropper, Tyson and Fitzsimons back we’ll already be near enough at the maximum he wants?

This post has been edited by Fit as a Nelson: 01 May 2020 - 10:15 AM