[Les Ashmore]

Gentlemen I have just posted this on Facebook

Ladies and Gentlemen It saddens me very much to inform you of the actions of a member of our group.
This morning I received a letter from a Solicitors in Sheffield {The reference made by Mr Dave Allen) .
A while ago I helped a member of our group after he posted libellous comments on our group and I deleted them and contacted him privately in reference to those comments, He then explained that he was owed money by the Club, I approached the club on his behalf and in essence all his problems got sorted.
The admin of this board can confirm that I have fully supported him throughout and suffice to say that at times if it hadn't been for me he would not be a member of this board.
Last week he made a post in reference to the Ex Directors of CFC and I contacted him and asked him to remove it as there were untruths and some accusations in it, he started telling me that I was wrong and that I couldn't remove it, I said I could and would, He then started threatening me with disclosure in the end I ended the conversation as it was getting out of hand.
He posted the exact same message on Bob's board and they also got on to him but in a different manner, there was name calling etc, In the end he apologised on there and said it was his illness.
I have been in contact with him over a couple of years since our first meeting and a number of Private Conversations have taken place, In it were private opinions and hearsay from both him and myself.
He has supplied all these private conversations to either Mr Dave Allen or Mr Ashley Carson or Both.
At the moment I won't name him But I will ask him to come clean and explain WHY?

[Cartman]

Wow

Sorry, I don’t know the law but can private comments not in the public domain count as libel?

I don’t know what the comments were and frankly I don’t care as they are none of my business but it is a massive breach of trust to release private messages to a wider audience!

[Westbars Spireite]

Cartman, on 12 January 2019 - 10:21 AM, said:

Wow

Sorry, I don’t know the law but can private comments not in the public domain count as libel?

I don’t know what the comments were and frankly I don’t care as they are none of my business but it is a massive breach of trust to release private messages to a wider audience!

Facebook posts and here, nothing private.

[Blue5]

I am sorry to hear that, Les. What a low life of an individual.

"Never wrestle with a pig because if you do you’ll both get dirty, but the pig will enjoy it”. Charlie Munger

[Les Ashmore]

Westbars Spireite, on 12 January 2019 - 10:23 AM, said:

Facebook posts and here, nothing private.

It wasnt on Facebook mate is was via messenger

[Looker-on]

Westbars Spireite, on 12 January 2019 - 10:23 AM, said:

Facebook posts and here, nothing private.

Les has probably said one or two things here and on Facebook that might have bothered the regime, but as I read it he says that the things that have caused offence in this instance were private messages. If someone else chooses to make them available to a wider audience, then it might be the someone else who is in the greatest danger of legal action, perhaps?

[Westbars Spireite]

Les Ashmore, on 12 January 2019 - 10:32 AM, said:

It wasnt on Facebook mate is was via messenger

What a shambles. You have my support on this.

[Goku]

the bloke's posts seemed like the scrawlings of a madman. he didn't seem to be in a sound mental state at all

[Westbars Spireite]

Looker-on, on 12 January 2019 - 10:33 AM, said:

Les has probably said one or two things here and on Facebook that might have bothered the regime, but as I read it he says that the things that have caused offence in this instance were private messages. If someone else chooses to make them available to a wider audience, then it might be the someone else who is in the greatest danger of legal action, perhaps?

If my pms were read, from here and elsewhere, I'd be a lifer.

[born in 1866]

Cartman, on 12 January 2019 - 10:21 AM, said:

Wow

Sorry, I don’t know the law but can private comments not in the public domain count as libel?

I don’t know what the comments were and frankly I don’t care as they are none of my business but it is a massive breach of trust to release private messages to a wider audience!

Yes they can.
Let's say your about to sign a deal with DA to build him a new casino. I tell you something made up and ridiculous about him having £millions of debts and you wouldn't get paid. You then pull out of the deal.
That is libel.

[spireitenag]

Looker-on, on 12 January 2019 - 10:33 AM, said:

Les has probably said one or two things here and on Facebook that might have bothered the regime, but as I read it he says that the things that have caused offence in this instance were private messages. If someone else chooses to make them available to a wider audience, then it might be the someone else who is in the greatest danger of legal action, perhaps?

Legal action or other action sadly ?

[Westbars Spireite]

born in 1866, on 12 January 2019 - 10:37 AM, said:

Yes they can.
Let's say your about to sign a deal with DA to build him a new casino. I tell you something made up and ridiculous about him having £millions of debts and you wouldn't get paid. You then pull out of the deal.
That is libel.

How is that proved if 'told'?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Sadly this seems to be symptomatic of the current climate on Sheff Road, Les.

It's certainly not the first we've heard of cronyism, back-stabbing, intimidation and pathetic playground snitchery.

Why anyone would want to be associated with it is utterly beyond me and we can only hope they'll pay some sort of price when this nightmare's finally over.

One way or the other.

But I'd agree with what others have said - how can you be possibly be pursued for what were private opinions?

Infact it's an extremely sinister development for everyone.

One thing, though; I'm led to believe those representing defendants in any court case can demand every e-mail, every text, every financial transaction and details of the accounts of those bringing it.

That could be very, very interesting...

[Westbars Spireite]

My suggestion is this nonsense is called off right now. If DA has the slightest intention of generating any goodwill it must be done.

[spireitenag]

Would someone kindly inform those running CFC that you don't actually use dynamite to build bridges.

As I stated earlier in the week on a different thread "A leopard never changes its spots".

[starsky72]

Well... he's certainly nailed his colours to the mast hasn't he.

Whatever the ins and outs of it all I hope he's comfortable with what he's done...

[dim view]

MDCCCLXVI, on 12 January 2019 - 10:47 AM, said:

Sadly this seems to be symptomatic of the current climate on Sheff Road, Les.

It's certainly not the first we've heard of cronyism, back-stabbing, intimidation and pathetic playground snitchery.

Why anyone would want to be associated with it is utterly beyond me and we can only hope they'll pay some sort of price when this nightmare's finally over.

One way or the other.

But I'd agree with what others have said - how can you be possibly be pursued for what were private opinions?

Infact it's an extremely sinister development for everyone.

One thing, though; I'm led to believe those representing defendants in any court case can demand every e-mail, every text, every financial transaction and details of the accounts of those bringing it.

That could be very, very interesting...

Top post.
Allen might have the best solicitor in Yorkshire, but he's got the worst advisors.

I suppose after his midweek charm offensive he'll be highly offended now if the Carson song is aired this afto. He'll be the only one that is.

[Les Ashmore]

Best of it is I can't remember saying what was alleged, I think I may have been the victim of Ashley Carson's Hacker

[Benno Spire]

MDCCCLXVI, on 12 January 2019 - 10:47 AM, said:

Sadly this seems to be symptomatic of the current climate on Sheff Road, Les.

It's certainly not the first we've heard of cronyism, back-stabbing, intimidation and pathetic playground snitchery.

Why anyone would want to be associated with it is utterly beyond me and we can only hope they'll pay some sort of price when this nightmare's finally over.

One way or the other.

But I'd agree with what others have said - how can you be possibly be pursued for what were private opinions?

Infact it's an extremely sinister development for everyone.

One thing, though; I'm led to believe those representing defendants in any court case can demand every e-mail, every text, every financial transaction and details of the accounts of those bringing it.

That could be very, very interesting...

Exactly, as it would be up to the courts as to what is factual and what is libellous

[Westbars Spireite]

Les Ashmore, on 12 January 2019 - 11:06 AM, said:

Best of it is I can't remember saying what was alleged, I think I may have been the victim of Ashley Carson's Hacker

Was it you that told me he killed Princess Diana?

This post has been edited by Westbars Spireite: 12 January 2019 - 11:13 AM