[DIFH]

Bowzer spirey, on 16 October 2019 - 04:32 PM, said:

Yes, very very lucky would be right. Not exactly encouraging with just 1 shot on target. We need to improve significantly to mount any sort of challenge.

I just hope the take over goes through and we can start afresh. Get more people to attend and improve the squad big time.

Challenge is miles off the mark - Survival is our only goal.

[Valley Blues]

I was merely replying to the point that three points don’t matter how they come.

In isolation, I totally agree.

My point was that you cannot play large parts of a season out being lucky or scraping it ( as described in the post I was responding to ).

The performances need to be consistent in order to gain enough wins to either stay in the league or progress up out of the league.

For what it’s worth, I wasn’t intending to sound negative and am as delighted as the next Spireite with last nights result.

[Lincs Spireite]

DIFH, on 16 October 2019 - 05:45 PM, said:

Challenge is miles off the mark - Survival is our only goal.

Not miles off Dave, Crossley was talking about play off place. However I stand by my assertion that we need significant improvements.

This post has been edited by Bowzer spirey: 16 October 2019 - 06:39 PM

[Spire-Power]

dtp, on 16 October 2019 - 05:06 PM, said:

How many teams have gone away with three points from the Proact because of a slice of luck resulting from a defensive mistake?

Did we win by the skin of our teeth at Fylde?

Over all the decades of my watching football I have watched teams win 1-0 with solid performances. Often these teams are the ones which are near the top of the table come the end of a season. We've criticised our defensive performances this season so let's, at least, give them a little praise for keeping a clean sheet for once. And, long may it continue as I'll take a 1-0 away win on a regular basis anytime.

I'm with this. I don't think anyone is suggesting Wrexham deserved to win which is a positive in itself ... Though some question whether we deserved to win. Warfey was at the game and posted that we played well. The BBC Wales commentator, who handled proceedings by himself and did it very well, came over as fair. He suggested Wrexham bossed the opening exchanges and we looked more likely to score second half, but lacked cutting edge after creating some dangerous situations.

[h again]

Spire-Power, on 16 October 2019 - 06:32 PM, said:

I'm with this. I don't think anyone is suggesting Wrexham deserved to win which is a positive in itself ... Though some question whether we deserved to win. Warfey was at the game and posted that we played well. The BBC Wales commentator, who handled proceedings by himself and did it very well, came over as fair. He suggested Wrexham bossed the opening exchanges and we looked more likely to score second half, but lacked cutting edge after creating some dangerous situations.

I thought we were the better side after the goal until half time. Second half was too close to call, but neither side looked like scoring, or entertaining the crowd in any way.

[h again]

clarevoyant., on 16 October 2019 - 01:03 PM, said:

Good appraisal. Suprised you didn't mention Joe Rowley getting himself in a ridiculous offside position when we had a 3 on 1 break. Also if the foul on Fondrop had been t'other way round what odds would you have got on a red card being brandished at the first (never mind the other 3)attempts to bring him down. I wish I could have listened in on the animated conversation with Evans, Fondop and the ref at the final whistle.

I was trying to be kind, but you're right - it was absolutely mindless play. Made the worse by the fact he was looking straight across the defensive line and was in a position to time his run perfectly. Running on to a through ball is a matter of inches, but in his position he had the space and the view to do what he liked.

[azul]

JonB, on 16 October 2019 - 02:55 PM, said:

Watching them they've either not shown any chances we had or we were very very lucky. Even the "highlights" of their chances appear to just amount to crosses going into the box and us clearing them! One in particular they show it gets lumped in near no attacker really and we hack away into the stand pretty easily!!

How do you work out “very very lucky” from those highlights?

They hardly had chance and neither did we. If the result ended 0-0 nobody could complain, so I reckon “lucky” would suffice,.

Then again there was nothing “lucky” about the own goal, it was just incompetence

[azul]

DIFH, on 16 October 2019 - 05:45 PM, said:

Challenge is miles off the mark - Survival is our only goal.

Get aboard the ‘playoff party bus’ you miserable olde *****

[lindave]

The one good thing about the last 2 games is that we have won by playing as a team getting stuck in and playing for the shirt. Denton is back and on form I feel we can make the play offs as long as the defence keep solid, our best midfield options so far this season has been Wedgey, Curtis, Smith and Rowley. Fondop was on fire at Fylde but average last night, hopefully the lay for Boden will get him firing on all cylinders scoring goals. Gevaro and McGlashen have to start pulling their weight there speed can win us matches with good supply in the box. Now is the time to stop looking back over our shoulders now that we are out of the drop zone, we have to look ahead and aim for the top places as everyone is beating each other and anything can still happen.

[Spire-Power]

lindave, on 16 October 2019 - 08:56 PM, said:

The one good thing about the last 2 games is that we have won by playing as a team getting stuck in and playing for the shirt. Denton is back and on form I feel we can make the play offs as long as the defence keep solid, our best midfield options so far this season has been Wedgey, Curtis, Smith and Rowley. Fondop was on fire at Fylde but average last night, hopefully the lay for Boden will get him firing on all cylinders scoring goals. Gevaro and McGlashen have to start pulling their weight there speed can win us matches with good supply in the box. Now is the time to stop looking back over our shoulders now that we are out of the drop zone, we have to look ahead and aim for the top places as everyone is beating each other and anything can still happen.

I think you are right but I don't know if the midfield and defence are good enough to maintain a good level of consistency, in other words cut out the mistakes. 4 4 2 has (belatedly) helped matters and it's important that Wedgbury Weston and the back 4 make us hard to score against on a regular basis. If not we'll be in and around the bottom 4 all season. I was looking forward to Buchanan returning at LB. I've only seen Shez jnr once and he was awful but he's played in the last 2 wins so may be he can make the grade?
Anyway, 4 4 2. Praise the Lord. When Crossley said (bearing in mind the way things were going) they preferred 3 at the back as it helped us play expansive football you had to laugh or cry.

[DIFH]

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Get aboard the ‘playoff party bus’ you miserable olde *****

What bus No is yours, I would hate for you to spoil my day.

[AllTownArentWe]

I'll say it again. If we sign fullbacks and a midfielder to partner Wedgbury in a 4-4-2 formation then we have a good chance of staying up.

[JonB]

14 minutes worth of "highlights" available via the CFC youtube :-
https://www.youtube....h?v=LRdqKSEcF1k

[h again]

lindave, on 16 October 2019 - 08:56 PM, said:

The one good thing about the last 2 games is that we have won by playing as a team getting stuck in and playing for the shirt. Denton is back and on form I feel we can make the play offs as long as the defence keep solid, our best midfield options so far this season has been Wedgey, Curtis, Smith and Rowley. Fondop was on fire at Fylde but average last night, hopefully the lay for Boden will get him firing on all cylinders scoring goals. Gevaro and McGlashen have to start pulling their weight there speed can win us matches with good supply in the box. Now is the time to stop looking back over our shoulders now that we are out of the drop zone, we have to look ahead and aim for the top places as everyone is beating each other and anything can still happen.

Wedgebury's doing fine as a defensive midfielder. Weston has moved up a gear, but I'd always play Mandeville rather than him, and certainly before Rowley as things stand.
Effectively two clean sheets in the last two games, but I'm still far from convinced by the defence. I'd like to see the revised system against some of the teams with a bit more pace.

[Goku]

I wouldn’t

[DIFH]

800 tickets sold for saturday

[dtp]

azul, on 16 October 2019 - 08:41 PM, said:

How do you work out “very very lucky” from those highlights?

They hardly had chance and neither did we. If the result ended 0-0 nobody could complain, so I reckon “lucky” would suffice,.

Then again there was nothing “lucky” about the own goal, it was just incompetence

Looking at the highlights it looked to me as if they could have done better with a couple of chances whilst Evans could have done better with a couple himself. One of those looked like a good cross from h's favourite, Rowley, which had Evans not intercepted Fondup could have buried.

Obviously, highlights are only an indication of the full game but they did suggest a good workmanlike team performance getting it's just rewards.

[Spire-Power]

dtp, on 17 October 2019 - 07:53 PM, said:

Looking at the highlights it looked to me as if they could have done better with a couple of chances whilst Evans could have done better with a couple himself. One of those looked like a good cross from h's favourite, Rowley, which had Evans not intercepted Fondup could have buried.

Obviously, highlights are only an indication of the full game but they did suggest a good workmanlike team performance getting it's just rewards.

Agree based on that we were worth a point but we got a break with the o.g. Not a game devoid of chances and you'd have backed Fondop to score from the cross Evans nodded over.

[Goku]

dtp, on 17 October 2019 - 07:53 PM, said:

Looking at the highlights it looked to me as if they could have done better with a couple of chances whilst Evans could have done better with a couple himself. One of those looked like a good cross from h's favourite, Rowley, which had Evans not intercepted Fondup could have buried.

Obviously, highlights are only an indication of the full game but they did suggest a good workmanlike team performance getting it's just rewards.

Wedgebury doing well according to reports