[Voiceofjoe]

“Richard Conway, a sports correspondent with the BBC, has today reported that FIFA have opened 'disciplinary proceedings over "possible discriminatory" chants by England fans' during yesterday's semi-final win.
It has been revealed that the English fans under investigation were believed to have chanting 'No Surrender to the IRA' throughout.”



Surely that can’t be deemed as discriminatory ?

That’d put about 50% of football chants in a discriminatory category

[Blue roan lily]

Voiceofjoe, on 12 July 2018 - 08:26 PM, said:

“Richard Conway, a sports correspondent with the BBC, has today reported that FIFA have opened 'disciplinary proceedings over "possible discriminatory" chants by England fans' during yesterday's semi-final win.
It has been revealed that the English fans under investigation were believed to have chanting 'No Surrender to the IRA' throughout.”



Surely that can’t be deemed as discriminatory ?

That’d put about 50% of football chants in a discriminatory category

Semi-final win? Oh joe do we all wish that was true.

[Halcyon]

Voiceofjoe, on 12 July 2018 - 08:26 PM, said:

“Richard Conway, a sports correspondent with the BBC, has today reported that FIFA have opened 'disciplinary proceedings over "possible discriminatory" chants by England fans' during yesterday's semi-final win.
It has been revealed that the English fans under investigation were believed to have chanting 'No Surrender to the IRA' throughout.”



Surely that can’t be deemed as discriminatory ?

That’d put about 50% of football chants in a discriminatory category

It's apparently OK for Croatia to play their WW2 Nazi National Anthem.

[Blue roan lily]

pompeyfan, on 12 July 2018 - 08:40 PM, said:

It's apparently OK for Croatia to play their WW2 Nazi National Anthem.

Don't think Croatia was a country during ww2. How can they have a ww2 nazi national anthem? Some posts on here are beyond me. Stick to your down south cronies.

[CFC91]

Was in the England end last night and the only No Surrender I heard was when the national anthem was sung.

[Halcyon]

Blue roan lily, on 12 July 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

Don't think Croatia was a country during ww2. How can they have a ww2 nazi national anthem? Some posts on here are beyond me. Stick to your down south cronies.

You didn't study history at school? "The Independent State of Croatia" was a WW2 Nazi puppet state. They committed shocking atrocities, particularly against Serbs. When Yugoslavia broke up, Croatia adopted the WW2 Fascist flag and national anthem.

[Mr Mercury]

pompeyfan, on 12 July 2018 - 09:23 PM, said:

You didn't study history at school? "The Independent State of Croatia" was a WW2 Nazi puppet state. They committed shocking atrocities, particularly against Serbs. When Yugoslavia broke up, Croatia adopted the WW2 Fascist flag and national anthem.

As come backs go that actually very good...I await the response lol

[Blue roan lily]

pompeyfan, on 12 July 2018 - 09:23 PM, said:

You didn't study history at school? "The Independent State of Croatia" was a WW2 Nazi puppet state. They committed shocking atrocities, particularly against Serbs. When Yugoslavia broke up, Croatia adopted the WW2 Fascist flag and national anthem.

Didn't study history at school? Yes. Have analysed your reply and yes your post is correct. Now then our down south/ cockney Sparra friend. How many of the lads and lassies on here do you think have been taught about the balkens, Yugoslavia , Croatia etc etc in our days at secondary school ? We were taught about the world wars, the tudors and stuff like that. Now please forgive me, if you will but nip down to your local southern team stadium and shout that team on. Obviously us thick frigs up north don't know our ****..

[Blue roan lily]

Mr Mercury, on 12 July 2018 - 09:34 PM, said:

As come backs go that actually very good...I await the response lol

Very good reply to be fair Freddie..

[hilly81]

Blue roan lily, on 12 July 2018 - 09:39 PM, said:

Didn't study history at school? Yes. Have analysed your reply and yes your post is correct. Now then our down south/ cockney Sparra friend. How many of the lads and lassies on here do you think have been taught about the balkens, Yugoslavia , Croatia etc etc in our days at secondary school ? We were taught about the world wars, the tudors and stuff like that. Now please forgive me, if you will but nip down to your local southern team stadium and shout that team on. Obviously us thick frigs up north don't know our ****..

Grow up.

[Blue roan lily]

hilly81, on 12 July 2018 - 09:42 PM, said:

Grow up.

Cheers hilly. See ya soon.

[azul]

pompeyfan, on 12 July 2018 - 09:23 PM, said:

You didn't study history at school? "The Independent State of Croatia" was a WW2 Nazi puppet state. They committed shocking atrocities, particularly against Serbs. When Yugoslavia broke up, Croatia adopted the WW2 Fascist flag and national anthem.

He really doesn’t does he.

The odd thing was that the person who held Yugoslavia together for decades was Tito, a Croat and an ex-partisan who led the fight against the Nazis.

Shades of grey, but you are correct, Croats generally supported the Nazis

[azul]

Voiceofjoe, on 12 July 2018 - 08:26 PM, said:

“Richard Conway, a sports correspondent with the BBC, has today reported that FIFA have opened 'disciplinary proceedings over "possible discriminatory" chants by England fans' during yesterday's semi-final win.
It has been revealed that the English fans under investigation were believed to have chanting 'No Surrender to the IRA' throughout.”



Surely that can’t be deemed as discriminatory ?

That’d put about 50% of football chants in a discriminatory category

Are you amongst the dozen or so dumbos who were singing that irrelevant song when we were sinking like a stone at the end of last season, then complained that nobody joined in

[azul]

CFC91, on 12 July 2018 - 09:16 PM, said:

Was in the England end last night and the only No Surrender I heard was when the national anthem was sung.

Well that is ok then😂

[calvin plummers socks]

What inbreds are still singing No surrender? 😂

The fine we get will be considerably higher of course to the fine that Slovakia (?) or whoever got for their racist chanting of England players recently ......!

[Spire_78]

Any FIFA fine will probably be less than the 50k for the heinous crime of wearing unauthorised socks v Sweden

[Siberian Spireite]

Blue roan lily, on 12 July 2018 - 09:39 PM, said:

Didn't study history at school? Yes. Have analysed your reply and yes your post is correct. Now then our down south/ cockney Sparra friend. How many of the lads and lassies on here do you think have been taught about the balkens, Yugoslavia , Croatia etc etc in our days at secondary school ? We were taught about the world wars, the tudors and stuff like that. Now please forgive me, if you will but nip down to your local southern team stadium and shout that team on. Obviously us thick frigs up north don't know our ****..

Nurse!

[Blue roan lily]

Siberian Spireite, on 13 July 2018 - 06:49 AM, said:

Nurse!

More tablets on the way S S !!

This post has been edited by Blue roan lily: 13 July 2018 - 07:19 AM

[Siberian Spireite]

Blue roan lily, on 13 July 2018 - 07:19 AM, said:

More tablets on the way S S !!

Seriously, I was quite aware of the Balkan history discussed here, though I learnt it after leaving school in Town.

Shame a few idiot England 'fans' are still so bone-headed.

I'm in Kiev and despite a few calls to boycott the tournament, the Croats have made themselves popular here by shouting pro-Ukraine slogans, which has gone down like a shitsandwich in Russia. Seems pretty daft that any of them feel the need to use nationalist slogans at all, whilst FIFA's heavy fines for obscuring sponsors' slogans says it all about their own priorities.

[Voiceofjoe]

azul, on 12 July 2018 - 10:35 PM, said:

Are you amongst the dozen or so dumbos who were singing that irrelevant song when we were sinking like a stone at the end of last season, then complained that nobody joined in

Wtf are you on about ?

There was little enough to sing about last year - never mind singing about something that irrelevant to Chesterfield FC.
When would mention of the IRA be ever made in a Town song ?

.... And just because I've got big ears you don't need to call me Dumbo.

This post has been edited by Voiceofjoe: 13 July 2018 - 10:22 AM